Cf19 parts interchange?

Ordering a new (to me) TouchPad, mouse buttons and rubber keyboard and would like to confirm some things. So far it looks like the mk6 up use a different touch pad from the mk5 and below, some suppliers state the touchpad on the 31 is the same as the 6, 7, 8 mk cf19s. Yet the keyboard cutoff is at the mk 7? So a keyboard from a cf18 all the way to a cf19 mk 6 keyboard will fit a mk6? Sorry just trying to get it all straight lol

 

Keyboards are identical between all CF-18's and CF-19's including mk7.
Touchpads (or maybe their controllers only) are not.

 

OK that's the part that was getting me is I find different listing service and part numbers for the keyboards between the 6 and the 7 but when I try to find the rest of the parts around the keyboard they seemed the same. I'm going to order the cf31 track pad and see what happens. Heartland is supposed to call me back in some parts since the dual touch cable I asked for confused them, along with part numbers for this stuff. Edit for my part# confusion.
18 up to cf19 mk6:
CF-WKB191VM
Cf19 mk 7:
CF-WKB1918M

 

Be careful as CF31's use 2 different touchpads. If you use the wrong one it will operate upside down and in reverse.

I may be able to verify numbers for you later tonight.
Post your full model number please

 

Maybe that's because CF-19 MK7's keyboard has a new windows key. It's a big improvement, my typing speed is now 3x faster!

 

Quite possibly that's the only difference.

 

CF 19 mk6 --TOUCH PAD--N2EAYYY00022

CF 19 mk5 --TOUCHPAD--N2EABEC00006

CF 19 mk4 --TOUCHPAD--N2EABEC00006

CF 31 mk2 --TOUCHPAD--N2EAYYY00022

CF 31 mk1 --TOUCHPAD--N2EABEC00006

CF 31 mk3 -- TOUCH PAD--N2EAYYY00022

This is a photo of the CF18-CF19 mk1-5 INCORRECT touchpad .
Notice the green colored part. The correct touchpad is gray/white.

 

So far it appears the CF19mk6 and later and CF31mk2 and later..

Panasonic Integrates Interlink’s ‘VersaPad™’ Touchpad with the Toughbook® 31 Laptop
August 01, 2011 11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Interlink’s VersaPad is a resistive touchpad that uses a unique pressure sensing technology, enabling exceptionally light touch and smooth tracking. Unaffected by moisture and other contaminants, the VersaPad is operable with any glove or passive stylus, and may be environmentally sealed to NEMA 4X / IP65 standards. This compelling combination makes the VersaPad ideally suited to the harsh environments in which the Panasonic Toughbook excels. The VersaPad is supported by a mouse driver which provides users with an advanced feature set and multi-language support.

Interlink's VersaPad touchpad integrated into Toughbook 19 Posted on November 28, 2012[/b]
Interlink Electronics, Inc. has announced that Panasonic has integrated Interlink's VersaPad® touchpad technology into a second Panasonic Toughbook® mobile computer specifically designed for civilian and military use in the harshest outdoor environments - from oil field to battlefield. Interlink's VersaPad® is now built into the latest Panasonic Toughbook® 19 convertible tablet PC, a fully-rugged mobile computer which is MIL-STD-810G and IP65 certified by an independent third party test lab to survive extreme conditions, such as drops up to six feet, rain, pressure, dust and extraordinary swings in temperature. Last year, Interlink announced that Panasonic had chosen VersaPad® for its upgraded Panasonic Toughbook® 31 rugged laptop. Both Toughbook® computers are designed for use in mission-critical situations by first responders, military personnel and field workers in such industries as telecommunications, utilities and energy.
Read more at: http://www.printedelectronicsworld.com/ ... ughbook-19

"The touchpad on Toughbook computers is a critical user interface, and we chose to upgrade our popular Toughbook 19 PCs with the Interlink VersaPad, following their success in our Toughbook 31 laptops, to help us surpass our customers' high expectations for user experience, reliability and quality."
Read more at: http://www.printedelectronicsworld.com/ ... ughbook-19

 

So my research was leading me in the right direction lol. My versa pad is completely slick in the middle and it's annoying

 

You CAN paint them..

 

Oh really? Is there a rubberizer or anything that needs mixed in for it? I planned on painting the top cover with some thermochromic paint but it would be cool if I could do the touchpad too.

 

I used good old rattle can paint.
Vinyl or plastic paint would be best. Very mild scuffing of the surface first.
I used black as it looks much better than gray to me.
My touchpad was shiny but it did not have any rips/tears or holes.

 

My old lady showed up the other day with her her nails done up with the thermochromic paint and I was amazed. The temp for the color change is like 82 or something so it immediately got me thinking of how cool it would be on my laptop. Might look pretty cool as it changes colors from the processors heat.

 

Great idea on the thermochromic paint

 

Not my idea lol it was actually hers. She has supplied me with 2 bottles of the nail Polish which I'm going to attempt to thin and spray. It goes from Blue to clear at like 82 or close to it and she has it over a silver base that's pretty much the toughbook silver and it's pretty cool to watch it change.

 

Heartland got back to me with part #DFJS1382ZA for the dual touch cable for 39 bucks plus 30 shipping. Can anyone confirm if this is the same part number from a mk5 back ?

 

Does a mk5 have the light sensor thingy?
I think that is the difference between the two mks

This thread will help a little.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/cf-19-screen-transplant-mk5-to-mk7.759431/

Alecgold told me in a private message more about what he had to do. If I recall he added the light sensor wires to the mk5 harness. NBR has since changed the board software and the private massages are gone.

 

Mk5 does not have a light sensor, mk6 and up from what I have found. I just didn't know if the wires for the light sensor were in that harness or if it was a separate sub harness.

That thread is what inspired me to do all this that I'm trying lol. That's what makes me think I can swap to a mk7 multi touch eventually since the boards are the same but baby steps first gotta get my dual touch first. Trying to find a mk7 multi touch top half isn't going that great either.

 

Sensor wires are in the main harness.

I would try the mk7 driver on a mk6 and see what happens.
Matter o fact I will try it once I get my mk6 dual touch up and running.

 

So I called heartland and asked for the part numbers for the touchscreens.
For my cf191hyag1m #dfwv84a0379
Price 203.65

For a mk 7 multi touch cf195dyax1m it's
#dfwv84a0367
Price 432.50.



Makes me think that the ts is probably the newer mars type and they aren't just using processor to compare resistances and determine coordinates

 

Thanks for the info.....I think.

I was hoping it was just a software difference.

 

Me too but after several hours of research into touchscreens (resistive specifically) it has to be hardware. There are ways to make older resistive register 2 touches but nothing more then that and those still require a separate board and processor. It's the way the wires are laid into a grid pattern and how it measures the resistances. The newer (mars) style is split up into more independent grids then the one big one like ours

 

/me looks at prices
(cough cough aaaaccck !)

yeppers ... more sections = more resolution and input points .
it is a similar thing with keyboards (musical) ; monophonic versus polyphonic .
and with the polyphonic types there was an evolution from two key inputs to three and upward .

 

MK7's multitouch is 5 points. It has to be capacitive.

 

That used to be correct but there were advances in the mid 2000s with the analog resistive touchscreen apparently which came about from 2 distinct lines. One attempted to use math (separate processor) to figure out the resistances but those are kinda constrained to 2 point touch. And the second branch broke up the grid I to smaller independent grids. The second independent grid system is the most popular and works the best, the first I kind of a stop gap that you could attach to an older in place system to get screen pinch zoom.

Sorry found an engineering thesis that this woman definitely got her PhD on lol. It won't let me link it here but I can link one of her sources that has a very good explanation.

Resistive Multiple Touch Screen Controllers: The Best of Both Worlds
https://www.wirelessdesignmag.com/b...ple-touch-screen-controllers-best-both-worlds

 

2 of the company's that founded these multi touch resistive tech lines also lisy keyboard tech in thier company profiles. Stantum was another but is now gone but also did the jazz mutant project