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    Fixing screwed up keys?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Modly, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. Modly

    Modly Warranty Voider

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    I finally (emphasis on the finally...) received my new keyboards, which are rubber backlit style.

    On the first keyboard, a few keys don't work at all, and another few work if you press it really really really really hard.

    The second keyboard only has issue with a few keys.

    Unfortunately, the seller sucks more than my vacuum. He didn't respond to questions before the auction ended, and didn't respond to questions after either, and offers zero warranty on it. So sucks to be me.

    That's why I gotta fix the keyboards.

    Any good tips for the hard to press keys, or the non-working?
     
  2. Toughbook

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    The rubber backlit???? Hard to press? Hmmmm.... Not sure there is a fix for that. They are hermetically sealed so you can't open them up. Have you tried whacking them against the bench? (Works for me sometimes.)

    If they don't work.....

    1. Email the seller for a return and/or refund.

    2. Post who the seller is so we can avoid him/her/it.

    3. Make a claim in Paypal for defective goods received.

    I doubt you'll make the rubber type work as new if they aren't now.
     
  3. gravitar

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    Hard to push isn't a failure, it's a design feature :)

    Actually I don't think there is a practical repair method for keyboard failures of ANY sort, other than unit replacement.
     
  4. radiogeek97

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    i spent two days pullin my hair out trying to fix one of these, no luck at all. It is easier on your sanity to replace them but they are costly. Please post seller info if you can

    good luck
     
  5. Modly

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    Seller is Spawn2803, but he has a few other selling aliases. Keep an eye out for anybody selling parts out of Renton, Washington with bad spelling.

    I ripped the rubber cover off (Hard because it had several tears in the one I was working on... Just imagine me swearing alot), and there isnt' much under there.

    Guess I learned a lesson about "as-is" from somebody that claims they didn't test it. Probably means that they did, and it is broke.
     
  6. Toughbook

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    Modly... EXACTLY... That is what I think when I see AS-IS... They tried it and it dfidn't work and/or they couldn't fix it.

    You can fix the regular and emissive keyboard but you need a "donor" keyboard to get keys from. I have two donors and have fixed 4-5 keyboards with them. The problem is that the keys that need replacing most are the arrow keys. The rest are just ones that got snagged somehow but are usually close to the edge.
     
  7. Mega-Man

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    Hey Modly - who did you get the boards from - looking for a couple and hate to get screwed by the same seller - Thanks
     
  8. Modly

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    Two posts up.

    I'm gonna give in and bid on the English/French keyboard I see, which is cheaper than the other ones.

    Both keyboards are useless, which sucks. That's $124 down the drain.

    Ah well. If he pisses me off enough, I'm moving to the west coast in 3 months.... And I'm taking my shovel.
     
  9. Mega-Man

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    Thanks - sorry was skimming - guess I need to slow down and absorb - thanks

    Remember - friends call the cops - real friends help dig :)
     
  10. kyote

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    The hearse will come in handy then..... :D
     
  11. cadillac

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    Modly

    I don’t know how far west you’re going but if you come through Idaho look us up.
    Nothing would make my neighbors happier than to see a hearse backed in my driveway. :rolleyes:

    Jim
     
  12. Modly

    Modly Warranty Voider

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    I'm heading out to Portland, Oregon.

    Not sure which route I'll take though. But I'll keep your neighbours in mind ;)
     
  13. gravitar

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    hey do you need rubber keyboards? i've got lots of em

    and i'll let you bang on the keys before you buy them :)
     
  14. Doobi

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    Are those the backlit keyboards Gravitar? If so, I might be interested in one for my 28.

    ~Paul
     
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    You been holding out on me! I need a few.. .Please email or PM me.
     
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    all you guys want rubber keyboards huh? i thought i read a few of you trash-talkin' about the rubber keyboards. i thought i was the only one that liked them :) I will go through my heap-o-toughbooks and see how many i've got that look nice.
     
  17. Modly

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    I wanted some to try out (Mostly because my hard key backlit keyboard is screwed up with my a, z, and x keys... ), and because people dive at them when they are for sale with a rubber keyboard.

    Whoever decided that a beige/gray keyboard was the way to go must have vacationed in Jamaica before authorising the go-ahead. I'm not a fashion designer, but it looks out of place.
     
  18. Doobi

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    I just want a backlit keyboard. hehe
     
  19. Toughbook

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    I put them on the ones I sell. You'd be surprised how many people want them.... Even though they type like crap.
     
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    Well my first computer was an atari 400 (has a membrane keyboard) so i guess i'm open-minded to not having a full-stroke keyboard! The rubber ones are perfect for what I do. I usually have to balance the computer on some part of a machine (usually with leaky hydraulics and/or coolant), in a poorly-lit area. I've had a ruptured coolant line take out a thinkpad before.. I think the rubber keyboard gives me a little extra safety margin. I'm afraid of the full-travel backlit keyboards for the same reason. Doesn't that inverter board put out several hundred volts? do I want to risk water getting into THAT while i'm typing?