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    HELP*This Ship Ain't Right*

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by capt.dogfish, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    So I just installed the T7200 in the CF-51. Nothing to write home about on boot. Ran Passmark 7.0, the T7200 is running between 35 and 45% SLOWER on all tests except disk read and write.
    The computer is working fine in all other respects. I can return the processor if its bad, but can it be bad? Should I try to reseat it?
    Like it says, HELP!!!
    CAP
     
  2. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    What does CPUID tell you?

    My first guess is that it's not running the FSB at the right speed, or that the CPU multiplier is locked to a lower number than it should be.

    mnem
    Blert.
     
  3. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Looks like this:
    View attachment CPUz.bmp
    This what you need?
    If you can't open this I'll put the ram back in the CF-30 and make it into a .jpg. I've got everything in pieces at the moment.
    Thanks, CAP
     
  4. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Here is my test .
     

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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Looks like I have to speed up the multiplier, anyone (mnem maybe) know how?
    CAP
     
  6. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I'm looking into it... that multiplier does seem about half what it should be, almost like it's stuck in low gear on the SpeedStep.

    mnem
    Bleeping bleepity bleep!
     
  7. Springfield

    Springfield Notebook Deity

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    You might need faster RAM sticks to accommodate the T7200's faster bus speed. A lot of CF-51's came with PC2-4200 but I believe the T7200 needs PC2-5300.
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Installed ram: Kingston 2 X 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz Dual Channel, matched pair thanks, I can use all the help I can get,
    CAP
     
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    Springfield Notebook Deity

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    Got any PC2-6400 sticks to try? That's what's in my CF-51 T7200 now.

    Maybe I was off a notch on my last post ... :confused:
     
  10. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    It appears to be a SpeedStep implementation issue; the T7200 uses "Advanced SpeedStep Technology" which appears to not only adjust CPU speed, but CPU voltage and multiplier to balance power consumption against CPU demand.

    Right now I suspect either a BIOS upgrade is needed or a perhaps a chipset driver from MS. Your bus speed is right where it should be, just the multiplier is wrong; I don't believe the RAM is at fault.

    Found some interesting reading here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...t7200-vista-speedstep-issues-please-help.html

    and here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ti-undervolting-core-2-duo-vista-results.html

    mnem
    *Fell off the 64-bit bus*
     
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    Alex Super Moderator

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    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    throttle stop could fix it?
     
  13. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    No difference in what memory you use. I just tried the 4200 and my multiplier stayed at X12
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    A screenshot of throttlestop would help.

    If EIST is disabled and greyed out, then you wont be able to increase the multi.

    If EIST is enabled or if you can enable it, then you should be able to get the multi back up to 12.
     
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    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    I do not have my T7200 with me but I noticed that my T7600 with no load the multiplier is X6 but if I run anything at all like defrag it jumps to X14 multiplier. So I wonder what would happen if cap tried this just to see what happens....it should jump to X12 :confused:

    I know most know this already but this is for the ones than don't

     

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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Well thanks for all the help. Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. Whilst reading scads of information you all have kindly pointed to, I did see one common factor, people talking about undervolting, overvolting, powersaving, you know, power! This has all been going on at my kitchen table with a CF-29 for forum viewing, the CF-30 for ram donations, and the CF-51 being colonoscopied. This morning I've been reading and reading and all of a sudden I had a thought, would the processor stay throttled down if it were running on battery and the "on battery" power settings were set to battery conservation rather than performance? I did have the Frakken thing plugged in when I was running the tests, right? :(Test result running on AC power 604.0, about 17-21% faster than the T2300 with 2GB ram. I knew there was a reason I've stayed out of the arms (speed) race all these years. Again thanks for all the input, I love this place.
    CAP
     
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    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    So I am guessing the T7200 runs at X12 multiplier under load. :D
     
  18. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    D'OH!

    I thought of this whilest writing my second response... but thought to myself "Naaahh... there's NO WAY Cap'n didn't have it plugged in."

    That's what I get for THINKIN'.

    mnem
    Another perfectly good opportunity to point out the INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS WASTED...
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    Yep, x12, and there was no drinkin' involved believe it or not.
    CAP
     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Heh. As I get older, my periods of "sober impaired-ness" get frequent-er and longer... I suspect it's related to my long-term CRS. :wink:

    mnem
    WhaWeTalkin'About...?