I added a Webcam into my CF-29 :-)

As some of u know, i frequently use Skype to talk (with my self added mikrofone) and see my girlfriend on the other side of the world via webcam. It was not nice to use an extra cam. So i bought an small piece of hardware: http://www.delock.de/produkte/grupp...MOS_Kameramodul_13_95810.html?action=showfaq&
I connected it directly with the USB-Pins on the portreplicator (the only one free port intern with USB2.0) on the mainboard and the power comes from the switch, which i used for my self added GPS-receiver. The cam itself is installed beside the left hinge and is moving with the screen and was covered with tape against water and fixed with two small stripes of plastic in the displayhole on the right side and the screw on the left side. A small slot in the barrier was required, which i cutted into the cover.
If u find a smaller cam it would be easier to install it directly in to the display. The cam, which i bought, has a very sharp picture, if nothing is on the move. But if i move my head, the cam or the software is really to slow! And the powerconsumption in standby is 88mA, thats why i used the switch. Negativ is also, that i -from now on- never can use USB via portreplicator. I 'll never want to use the portreplicator for USB, so it was not a problem for me. But maybe i will connect the portreplicator-USB-port with one free USB1.1-port from the mainboard.
The cables are routed through the cover under the keyboard.

 

lol.

Cool. Good Idea.

 

D@MN!!!!! Thats awesome!

 

The ingenuity of the folks that frequent here amazes me!

 

I thought about doing this. But I don't use web cams much if at all. Now we need a schematic to go with the write-up.

Excellent job! Props to you!

 

With a webcam in a CF29, has anyone got a PC-alternative to my Mac laptop theft-recovery software?

( http://www.orbicule.com/undercover/) What that does is ping the master server every few minutes. If my Mac gets stolen, I notify the company, and when my Macbook Pro pings the server, it registers as stolen and records info such as their IP, location, screenshots, and even takes a picture of the thief with the built-in webcam!

 

Thats what happens when you love what you do with your hobbies/careers

 

@t-book: U dont need a big schematic. First install the software of the cam, that u can test ur result. U should know, where to find USB on the portreplicator-pins on the mainboard (pins 29 and 30, the blue cables in the picture) and 5V-power over a switch from pin1 from an external USB-port (there is a protection-circuit, is better for the life of ur TB). Ground can u also get from the USB-port or from the screw-hole in the middle of ur toughbook. Be aware to make not the cable from USB to long unshielded. Otherwise it will not work. If u connect the USB-Cam on the new cables u had routed through the hole, where the antenna-cables are going from down to the top through the hole at the mainboard and through the gap between the cover under the keyboard to the left hinge, and u did not know, which cable was plus, ground and usb+ or usb- , u can test first, which one is plus by connecting an voltmeter between the chassis and the cables. If u find 5V u can soldering this cable to + from the cam. Where u found 0V u can soldering this cable to Ground from the cam. Now the other 2 cables have a 50/50 chance. Only in one position it will work, in the other not.
By the way, if u have an thinner cable u can route the cable through the gum, where the microphone is situated and go through the bottom of the display to the other hinge. If u buy the same cam, like i, it will fit exactly at this place.

 

Nice to see creative thinking

My first thoughts are that it would be better at the top of the screen

Nevertheless, I guess that the lower location aiming up would work best for me
The negatives are it would emphasize my double chin
But the positive is that it would show less of my premature balding spot on the top of my head


Alex

 

:-D Ur right, and the partner on the other side will look up to u....

 

Any new info on this?

Has anyone tried this in a cf-28?

 

What for news do u expect?
Try it yourself in the cf-28. I do'nt have one. The only thing is, if u use an USB1.1-port, u will get a maximum of 640x480 pics. Thats, why I was looking for a USB2.0-port.

 

Yeah... I'm not sure I would aste my time on a CF-28... I don't think the processor would handle it too well...

 

The USB 1.0 had occurred to me. The processor had not. That could be tricky.

 

If I use my webcam in 640x480, the processor switches from 600MHz till 1.6GHz if I move myself in the picture. In 1280x1024 it is everytime in 1.6GHz mode. But if I only use 320x240, it goes never over the half of the level in 600MHz.

 

Here is how I installed the web cam in a CF-29 in the middle of the screen. You just need to drill a 1/8 hole first then drill a 17/64 hole for the lens. After that remove the rubber holder from the usb cable and Place hot glue in the cf-29 frame and place the usb cam in the hole. Make sure you have the camera the right way or you will be on your head

Note: Some frames have a pin sticking out that must be removed. Not all have this.


You must us a PCMCIA to USB CardBus as there is not a 2.0 free inside that I can find.

Have fun with this

I use this web cam http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110475488061

 

Here is new link for the web cam I'm using 5.0M MINI USB 2.0 CAMERA WEBCAM FOR LAPTOP PC SKYPE MSN - eBay (item 120543760754 end time Jun-13-10 09:03:41 PDT)

TB2010

 

Thanks for the post 2010. I purchased one of these for the simple reason I wanted to try it. Plus my wife wants a camera in the beehive. Now there's a mod.
As some of you know I run Linux. So I had to learn a little more code to get the rascal running. The latest kernel versions include this device which is a uvcvideo.
Stick it in the rear port (side port too tight) and find it if you wish by typing:

But all you really need to do is the following:

And there you are.
luvcview and guvcview are well documented on Google.

Jeff

 

nice find, it works very well on all of my nix-machines.
webcam in linux now solved.

 

Hey,
couple of questions:
Just got 2 29's from geeks.com, and I'm modding in webcams and mic's for my sister in law and her boyfriend.

i was trying to find an intrnal usb suitable for the webcams. which ones switch off with the power? CN18 does not, does cn52? do any of them? There is no other free usb 2.0 inside somewhere?

In the process of trying to figure out that info, i read through the internal bt mod. What is the "circut" that is discussed in that thread? Is it just for droppin 5v to 3.3v, or is it for switching it off/on? I kind of just thought usb was usb.

TIA!

 

u are looking for an 5V-Power, which turns off, when ur tb does, not for an USB, which switch off.

Had u read both threads attentive? The solutions for ur question are there

 

I have read both threads, I"m just a little slow sometimes. There are a couple pieces of info that I don't understand (or don't understand enough to ask the right questions).

SO, all the internal usb's do not turn off (except the 2.0 dock usb)?
I can use the 5v off the internal usb's, but they will stay on all the time?
If I want the usb to turn off with the TB, then I'll have to pull 5v from some other place that turns off with the TB?

The extra circuit from the bt thread is so the utility can switch that usb port on and off? (I just went back and read again)
Or is it to turn it on/off with the main power?


TIA!

 

I read more carefully.
Pulling the 5v of an external port won't draw too much power? I don't want to do this mod, and then not be able to use an external usb mouse, thumbdrive, etc...
Can I use the 5v off the external usb with any of the other internal usb's (cn52, cnxx)?

 

You need to make a Darlington Circuit as Onirikkiss did. There are also other circuits you can use (Google it) that will allow you to turn just about anything on or off with the touch of multiple keys... Sort of like turning on sticky keys after hitting the shift key 5 times fast. These circuit can be found by other modders on the net too.

I was trying to find the right magnetic reed switch to use and this would simplify things greatly... Except I cannot seem to find the right size and shape NC (Normally closed) magnetic reed switch. I bought a bunch off of ebay and even emailed the company back and forth before buying. They came in as NO (Normally open) which did me no good.

You just need to think it all out. There are no USB ports that shut off with the PC as you want.

 

Toughbook is completely right.

I don't want to write an exact howto for such internal mods, because the follower has to know some principles of the technic.

yes(ALL),yes,yes

Both

What is this standing for?

depends on the type of ur web cam, how much power is going thru the port. The max is 500mA and the advantage of using the usb-port-power-circuit is: there is an fast electronic fuse
So if there is an shortcut in the wiring to the cam, the mainboard will be protected.
All other connectors inside of the tb, also the replicatorport, does not have an electronic fuse on there 5v power circuits.
On my cf-29 I can also use my external 2.5" harddrives on the ports.

 

TIA!= Thanks In Advance!

And thank you for the replies. There is enough info that I at least know which direction to go. I'll report back when I get it straightened out.

Thanks!

EDIT:
SO, in effect, a complimentary darlington circuit is basically the right way to hook up transistors to switch something on/off (in this instance) like a relay?
The circuit is also necessary becuase we are using data from one bus, and power from another?

 

Try to look on CN(49) pci slot 2, there is another usb there that I think the power supply for USB is VC5 not the VA5 that you can use on webcam that is off when the pc is off. I am away on my desktop where all of my shematic restored and currently using a CF-19

ohlip

 

upon further investigation I have discovered that the schematiic I have is for the cf-29E. Is it the same for the cf-29C? does anyone have the schematic for the cd-29c (mk1)?

And, what is VC5 versus VA5?

Thanks!

 

VC5 is switched on and off with the laptop... VA5 stays active regardless... I think that is what Teo was saying...

 

that's what I kinda figured, but didn't know cuase I don't have elecrical degree...

mk1 schematic.... anyone?

 

Interestingfellow, Could you send me a copy of that CF-29E schematic? Mine is a 29E and I want to use an internal USB that goes off with the laptop. I am looking for VC5 on CN49, Correct Ohlip?

Thanks

 

pm me your email, I'll have to send it later (i'm teathered to my slow phone)

 

That one is gone, which of these is the ame, please?



I gather that you are stripping-off the shell of the thing and the guts are a fraction of the device?

 

I hope it's the same, I needed 3 cameras, and bought the last one he had (specified in the beginning of this thread). I bought two of these (same seller, looks like same camera, just mounted on little tripod). I'll report back when i get'm.

 

I just got the three of them in the mail. one was from the begining of this thread, and the other 2 were from the link above. They looked the same on the internet machine, and now that I'm holding them, I see that they are. They are the exact same camera (realize, I haven't cracked them open) except the other two came with a nice little piece of hematite (metal) that the spring clips slide into. If you take it off the metal base, you can clip them on your laptop lid, just like the other 1.

 

OK,
So I dremelled the lid, and got the cam in...Np.

Then I got around to how to hook it up. I didn't have the time, desire, or confidence to use the ffc, so I said, "hell, I'll just solder it to the rear usb2.0on the underside of the mobo, and tell'm not to plug anything in that back USB". Sounded legit. But I couldn't get it to work, and would like some help, please.

I traced the lines of the usb port, and identified the pins ( I think)(and also don't have my notes here, so I can't tell you what I thought was right).

Anyway, if you look at the one pic, I put a red circle around the area of the board that the pins reside (under the blue wire). Then I did a little bmp of the pins (as they sit in the first photo) with an outline of that blue wire.

Anyway, any thoughts?

 

There is plus and minus also on the data pins. Be aware of this. And u have to use an twisted and maybe shielded cable.

 

USB will always be in this order: GND, D+, D-, +5V so just find the ground pin and the rest you cann figure out.

 

I'm not saying your wrong but my notes show mine like this

G usb- usb+ +5

If your looking at the male end pins down power is on right side just as listed above.

on cam
Green power+5
grey usb+
White usb-
Blue ground

 

No I don't think you have it right but here is the ultimate authority on this:
USB pinout and wiring @ pinouts.ru

 

like I said I'm not sure why my notes are like that.

I can tell you that the webcam hooks up like i have listed.
I May have never looked up the pin out and just wrote it down that way.
So it was very easy to right down the center two wrong as I just used a volt meter to find pin power and ground.

I bet he can get it working now.

TB2010

 

The USB pinouts themselves are not hard to find/figure out. I did that already.

What I can't figure out, is why, when I soldered the lines right to the pads on the bottom of the mobo, it wouldn't work.

Look at this pic (looking from inside the 29 out at the plug coming into the usb port) (I think it's correct)

 

If u u look on the pins of the usb-socket from the mobo bottom, like drawed in ur picture: on the left is ground, the next is data+, after that comes the plus 5V, the right one is data-.
U will not destroy anything, if u don't know which one is D+ and D-, it will only work in one option.

 

Are you sure of your pin out. I'm thinking the middle two is your usb+ and -

I will take a look tonight I have a board set out.

 

That was my natural conclusion, but I don't think it wa correct. I'm interested to know what you find on your mobo. A few pics would rule, since i didn't pull the mobo out of the case. I was just looking from the top and bottom while it was installed....

 

Isn't it easy, to use an multimeter? U can check, where to find any voltage or any shortcut or resistance...
...only a thought, if u don't trust me. ;-)

 

Seriously guys this isn't rocket science just find the ground pin with an ohmeter then the pin adjacent to it will be USB+ then USB- then +5v if you don't own an ohmmeter then you are not qualified to even have the cover off the laptop.

 

This is the way the board i have is. Now see if this match what you find. The pins are right but they could be reverse order.

When I say reverse I mean usb slot on the plug could be on the right side not the left.
The pad will be correct.

The white wire should be usb+
the Grey wire should be usb-
the Green wire should be +5
the Blue wire should be GND

So if i makes sence the the pads are as you see them looking at the bottom of the board where you want to hook up.

Good luck

TB2010

 

This is what I want to say too, but I don't have the heart to do so.
But u are wrong about the order of the pins on the mobo. toughbook2010 in the picture in his last post and I in my earlier post have to be correct.
Anyway, interestingfellow should learn something about electronic, before he is trying to connect anything inside an electronic device. That's also the cause, why I don't write exact how-to if I change something. The guys which want to follow me, have to know the basics. (The same I have to know if I want to go the way that other really good writers described about there variations here.)

 

My point is that with the ohmmeter he could figure out whereever on the motherboard the USB solder points are. Just put the meter on buzz then start on the USB outermost pin or he could just guess and he would have a 50-50 chance of getting it right.