Intel 5100 in CF-51 Problem?

Hello!
A while back I stuck a 5100 in a CF-51Mk3LL beater as basically that was as good a card as it could handle! Was somewhat surprised that it worked without the infamous pin mod, but despite not showing up in the BIOS it seems to function.
Anyway, its primary use was away from home using hotspots to get a signal. I am able to get a good signal and reliable connection but it nearly always seem to cut me off at around 1 AM in the morning! After some research I discovered that some routers can be effectively switched off and I thought that was what was happening. However one night I was a little later logging on and discovered that I was being cut off after one hour.
Remembering that some members do not rate the Pro Set, I changed over to let Windows manage the wireless. The one hour limit came and went, so I was quite confident that despite my limited knowledge I had solved the problem, only to find that it cut out after two hours rather than one! So only a 100% improvement!
So as far as I can see the router is still transmitting and the card is receiving the signal, it just comes up with a connection problem page after the time limit. You cannot log back into the service either. There shouldn't be any time limitation on the connection as I only use it a couple of times a week and you have a 10000 min limit per month.
As switching from Pro Set to Windows double the connection time, it seems like a SW issue or a setting. So am I missing something here?

 

had u checked the energy saving options for the card itself?
anything in the event or log protokoll?
is a wwan-card or related software installed?

 

Hi!
Must admit I was not aware of any card specific power options. Actually wondering now if it has something to do with the main power settings. Don't think I have altered them. Usually I leave everything on all the time, even on battery!
Its basically a factory set up, no Wwan, just subsituted the 5100.
If I can stay awake along enough I might see what the troubleshooter comes up with.
Thanks for the reply!

 

I had a 5100 in my cf51 and never noticed any timeout issues. I used the latest version of Proset (downloaded from Intel). I now am running an Intel N 1030. It runs for hours without issues.
I always disable any power saving on my wifi cards.
Device manager...Wifi card...Properties...advanced tab...scroll down through options to power management......slide to highest setting.
Don't know if it affects timeouts or not.
Also, I have been told to change the windows power settings from "laptop" to "desktop" or always on. Windows power saving setting don't always play nice with Intel processors.


More power Scotty.

 

Well tried changing every power setting including the card and managed to decrease the time to 70 mins! Perhaps I am unfairly blaming the card as there is no indication it is not connected. The connection time still runs even though it will no longer respond.
Guess its a browser problem or home page as the diagnostic log mentions something about MSN, but to be honest I can't make heads or tails of all the info!
When you lauch the browser it redirects to a log in page for the ISP. After logging in it lauches its own browser. Perhaps I need to have the ISP's SW or something. Perhaps there is some incompatability between the two and the home page gets the hump!
Also after getting the IE cannot display this page, you are unable to reconnect even if you reboot. Sometimes to restrict usage you have to log in repeatedly, but as I am nowhere near the limit, I doubt thats what happening.
Thanks for the reply.

 

I use firefox and never use Ie.
From what you just said, it sounds more like the ISP is limiting the usage.
Maybe contact the ISP and ask them.

 

After a bit of digging it would seem that this service is particularly problematic and I am one of the lucky ones to get even an hour of connection! Bewildering amount of conflicting advice so its trial and error.

Shawn, whats the deal with the Intel N 1030. Be useful to have other alternatives even though the 5100, apart from the BIOS issue, works well.

 

The N 1030 includes bluetooth.
The 5100 is draft N and the 1030 is finalized N.
The 1030 is based on the later chip which I has other benefits that I am not specifically aware of such as less power consumption and or better connectivity etc.

 

Any particular reason you went with the single band N 1030 instead of the dual band N 6230? And what if anything did you do about securing the half height card where the full height card was?

 

They make a small metal adapter you can pick up on fleabay for a dollar or so.
I don't remember any specific reason for the 1030 over the 6230 other than cost. At the time the 6230 were quite a bit more and I figured that I really didn't need dual band.

 

Does it show up in the BIOS?

 

no it does not. If it's not the original card, I don't think any of them will show in the bios

 

@MrRe...Drop a hint as to who the ISP is....if it constitutes Polite Customer Feedback, I can't see anyone having an issue.

o.g.

 

BT!
Actually it has started to behave a bit better lately. It still seems to cut the connection after 2 hours but if I repair the connection, it now allows me to log back in which was not happening before. So not sure if thats something I have done (unlikely) or what!
Looks like there could be issues with the HH but I can hardly bang on the door of my neighbours, assuming I could locate the one with the HH, and demand that they reset their router to improve things for me!
Just a little frustrating when enjoying those guilty pleasures to be disconnected.

 

Hmmm...Maybe they caught on and turn the router off to stop you.

I was suspicious that it wasn't YOUR isp that we were talking about.
I am not sure if this type of discussion is permitted in the forum or not.
I really don't know, but I bet we will find out soon.
I won't be able to give any more help for you to "borrow" your neighbors internet service. I don't want to cause any trouble for myself in the forum.

 

@MrRe.....o.k. not what I was expecting.

The reason I asked is because someone is sharing the O2 Network & spending plenty of money advertising good deals, when you check the small print the "Unlimited Internet" disconnects after 60 minutes. I thought that was your problem....but I'm wrong.

o.g.

 

Shawn, No need to worry, it's perfectly legal!
In the UK when you sign up for the BT wireless service in your own home you can also opt into a service called Openzone/Fon which allows you to access what they call Hotspots. These Hotspots are actually other BT customers routers. The routers are supposedly designed to allow a certain amount of bandwidth exclusively for that use. The customers router is secure and your use of the rest should not effect them whatsoever.
I think I can actually pick up about 6 routers but can only access the BT one as that portion of it is unsecured. So when I am away from home, I can still have internet access through my ISP.
It might just that there is a time limit but its not well publicised. Bit strange it alters depending on what s/w manages the card. Of course BT claims it's unlimited but it is limited to 10000 mins a month after which you get a rude email and the service is supposed to log you off after 30mins.