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    Looking for CF-19 MK3 Schematic

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by sidro, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. sidro

    sidro Newbie

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    Hi All,

    I've got my CF-19 MK3 model CF-19KHRAXAE some days ago and I love it!
    Have a lot of notebooks around me but this one is different.
    It is the first notebook I own that give me the feeling it is worth to mod it.

    I need some more serial ports.
    I hate this USB-dongles hanging around the notebook like a spider.
    So I like to activate the second serial port inside, as far as I understand it should be on the dock connector with TTL levels, if I know the pins I can solder to it.
    And maybe I will also use the third serial port that is prewired for the GPS module.
    There is also some USB stuff to build inside, there seems to be some USB ports hanging around waiting for me :)

    So I'm stuck now, need the schematics...

    It would be very great to have it, I will keep you informed about my mods :)

    All the best,

    Isidro
     
  2. onirakkiss

    onirakkiss Notebook Deity

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    Because of the schematic: I know only there is an MK1 Version anywhere in the net. But it would help u, because the pinout of the ports and connectors is the same.
    But it would be easier and would also not compromise the stability of the body, if u use something like this: Syba Web . :)
     
  3. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    I don't think the CF-19 MK3 schematics are available...
     
  4. sidro

    sidro Newbie

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    Thank you onirakkiss.

    No problem with the stability of the body, I don't want to destroy my toughbook!
    I want to fit it more closely to my application.
    No new holes or other strange things.

    I never ever need the modem, so I like to use this RJ 6P6C socket for the additional serial port. I will use an isolated RS232 driver chip, need only the RX,TX and GND wires.

    So with this I can up- and download configs and screenshots from my portable spectrum analyzer without having a potential dangerous ground loop with nothing else then a special made cable between the units.

    Hard way without the schematics.
    Good to know that also the internal connectors didn't change that much between the versions.

    Anyone out there that could help???

    I prommise I will make pictures of the specials I build.

    @Toughbook: Do you have schematics of an other version???

    All the best,

    Isidro
     
  5. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    If you had your email address in your profile you never know what might show up in it... ;) :D
     
  6. sidro

    sidro Newbie

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    @toughasnails
    How stupid I am. Sorry, really dosn't make sense without email address.
    Hope I fixed it.

    All the best,

    Isidro
     
  7. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    That's better... :D
     
  8. sidro

    sidro Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    Thank you very very much!!!! :D

    I'm impressed!


    I will come back with more info about my mods :)

    All the best,

    Isidro
     
  9. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    my guess your happy :) ;)
     
  10. alexho

    alexho Newbie

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    Hi does this schematics have the the pinots for the port replicator connector? If yes, im looking desperately for it.
     
  11. UNCNDL1

    UNCNDL1 Notebook Deity

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  12. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Well first we need your full model number and since you can't pm yet you will need to post your email address.
     
  13. alexho

    alexho Newbie

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  14. toughasnails

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    Crap...can't help you. Something that new is going to be hard to find.
     
  15. alexho

    alexho Newbie

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    I think the docking station connector is similar to the mk3. Any way I know the port replicator is compatible with the mk3.
    Whatever you can get is good. My alternative is trial and error. .. ;-)
     
  16. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    I only have them up to the MK2 , all sent
     
  17. coppertech

    coppertech Newbie

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    Good people share please scheme of any CF-19, or at least pinout of connector CN16 and CN27. Thanks!
    [email protected]
     
  18. nSomniak

    nSomniak Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there I saw this thread while looking for the pinout's for the cn8 and cn 17 (both video connectors on a mk2 and mk3) because im trying to fit a mk 3 screen onto a mk2 body, and the display comes out all garbled when connected like it looks like it should be, Even though the connectors are diff sizes (CN8 in this case) there are the same number of wires in both, so i was hoping that they used the same pinout just diff connectors and i guess i was wrong, i get no back light and the screen shows some very odd stuffs. Also i woulda referenced the connector numbers on the mk3 but they are not marked as happily as the mk2 is. any help will be greatly appreciated
     
  19. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Are you using just the LCD panel or the whole top half?
    Full model number? Both units if possible.
    Which LCD cable are you using?
     
  20. nSomniak

    nSomniak Notebook Enthusiast

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    CF-19 kdrcg6m (mk3) and i dont have the full model num from the mk2's all i have is 2x bottom half with no keyboard or bottom cover and i was attempting to use the lcd cable from the mk3 because it looked like the only difference was cosmetic (sadly i am wrong) but i have the cables from a few mk2s if you think that would be easier and i was trying to use the entire top half since there are only very minor differences in the look and fit
     
  21. Shawn

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    I know i will have to rewire the connectors but i cannot find any reference to the design or the pinout of them sadly, the backlight will be easy worst case will install a BUCK for the power and brightness control, like the ccfl to led mod for the cf-30

    edit: I also have a coulple of partially working mk3's so i can test the pins on there, i dont wanna risk killing the mk2 mobos as i know they are good
     
  23. Shawn

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    I don't think the mk3 schematic is readily available.

    I agree the inverter is easy. Touchscreen or digitizer should be fairly simple.

    You could back trace the LCD wiring by finding the datasheets with schematics for both of the LCD panels
     
  24. nSomniak

    nSomniak Notebook Enthusiast

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    will gladly take an mk 2 schematic, just really need the pinouts for the 2 connectors so that i can rewire the plugs accordingly i can figure out the pins on the mk 3 i have a few to burn if need be, and i will also repost with success or failure and any information i learn, including pinouts a pics, possibly video if i can find a suitable camera in the shop here
     
  25. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    pm me your email address
     
  26. nSomniak

    nSomniak Notebook Enthusiast

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    im still kicking on this, would like some insight though here is a pic of what i have gotten done so far, it seems as if i can just wire the plugs almost 1 to 1 if i redistribute the grounds around

    mk2 and mk3 pinouts.jpg


    EDIT: So i used the plug from a mk 2 and pulled all the pins from it, then pulled the socked off of the mk 3, wired it exactly as i explained and VOILA! i get a picture... it looks nice also, now all i have to worry about is the square plug, ill be pin checking it this week and will let you guys know how it goes, preliminary results seem to show that the pin values may be EXACTLY the same, for the square plug so lets hope :)
     
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  27. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    hmmm ...
    it looks like the engineering boys determined that all those grounds were not needed to keep "cross talk" down .
     
  28. ohlip

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    Ok! here I'm gonna tell you, all the LVDS connection of all the CF-19 LCD's are the same except for the backlight wiring as it is so obvious that CF-19MK1 & MK2 uses CCFL tube while the CF-19MK3 and above uses LED.

    ohlip
     
  29. nSomniak

    nSomniak Notebook Enthusiast

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    actually both of the connectors are different, the lvds if you look at both pics is ALMOST the same but does not directly plug with out rewiring of the pins under the top 3, the other 11 need to be moved around, im working on the backlight/usb/serial-uart/sound plug (from the schematic it looks like all of these are there) and the bottom 6 pins on cn8 of the mk2 are unused if you take the cloth tape covering off of it, and from what i can see, the output voltage from the square plug is the same for the backlight in the mk2 as it is on the led board of the mk3 but the mk 3 uses 3 more of the pins than the mk2 does, so that may also get interesting, but progress is being made :)

    even if the voltages are diff, there is that handy dandy plug for the keyboard backlight that has +3.3, +5 -5 and ground so i can pull power from there also if need be, would just need the brightness signal to get it all working
     
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    Sorry! for the confusion that I made. I must be clear to what I am sayin. What I mean is, the connector that plug in to the LCD itself not on the motherboard.


    ohlip
     
  31. nSomniak

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    AHH so your telling me that i could have just swapped the wires... LAME! it's ok though, the experience is needed doing this kind of thing., but that info will make the next even easier to do, im just having a problem getting pin values on the mk3, the one i have keeps turning off when testing the pins and i have to unplug for a min or 2 and start again, so if anyone has any idea of the pinout of CN17 (or the equivalent on a mk3) it would be of great help... seems like more pins are used in the mk3 than the mk2 but i think that the led back light uses a slew of 3.3v for the light where as the mk2 uses a 16v then again in the schematic of the mk2 it shows that it's a speaker connected to 19 and 20, 19 being the 16v and 20 being a sound ground (separated from board ground to keep noise down i imagine)... scratch that last thought, i was looking at the connector upside down to the schematic

    Edit: i remember why i didn't swap the wires, the backlight connector on the lcd of the mk2 and 3 are diff, so i just rewired the plug tip with one from a mk2

    edit 2: after reading a few of the posts i have made i realize that a few of them may sound a bit snarky, i do not mean to come off that way, i just have a lot to do and i really appreciate the help. so thank you all.
     
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  32. nSomniak

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    ok so the mk 3 has 2 15v inputs to the light, but the mk2 only has 2 5v.... interesting, i would have thought that the leds would be set to a lower voltage than the ccfl, or is it possible that since i dont have a screen attached to the mk2 that it's not upping the voltage because it realizes there is nothing there?

    edit: Just rechecked the mk3 with no lcd attached still 15v for the light... damn...

    edit 2: and does anyone know what the switch on the led circuit does?

    edit 3: touch was easy enough, just had to change the plug on the back of the screen for one from a mk2 (so as not to have to rewire the square plug [which may have to happen anyways}) i honestly thought the backlight would be run off of 3.3v or 5v, never woulda guessed it would be dual 15v...
     
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  33. nSomniak

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    oh so lame, boss is making me give up on this for the time being... hopefully i will have time at some point to finish what was started...
     
  34. magadan8

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    Can I also get a scheme of any CF-19? I have many mk1-3 motherboards with different problems in my lab, and I'm trying to make them work somehow, but without schemes it's hard to do :) Thanks!
    [email protected]