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    Magnetic Field Error?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by ravemoyers, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. ravemoyers

    ravemoyers Notebook Enthusiast

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    Me and my crew are using panasonic cf-19s around pipeline and for some reason we have belief that the magentic field is causing out computers to go to sleep..

    any ideas on how to fix this??
     
  2. Toughbook

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    If you are speaking of the Earth's magnetic field... You are incorrect. However... If you are working around a highly magnetic area... It could be. The Toughbook has magnetic reed switches to tell the Toughbook to Hibernate when the lid closes, if so set.(The lid has a magnet in it!) So theoretically it could happen.

    To stop it? Go to Power Options in Control Panel and change the settings to "When I close the Lid - Nothing Happens" then let me/us know...
     
  3. ravemoyers

    ravemoyers Notebook Enthusiast

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    Great!,

    Ive come across some helpfull information that has helped.

    I did what you said and tested out this theory.

    When we are around the magnetic field with the balance mode (this mode doesnt allow the computer to sleep when lid is closed) only the screen dims when in contact with the magnetic area we are working around. BUT when in power save mode (which is theoreticlly the right mode to be in if youre using this laptop all day) its option was to sleep when lid is closed. Therefore the answer was we were using power save mode and the magnetic field was telling our computer to sleep when the lid wasnt shut so we have come across changing that settings helps. Thanks

    Ravion Moyers
    Spreadboss,
     
  4. Toughbook

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    Okay... I just have to know two things...

    1. Where are you working where you are close enough to that strong a magnetic current to close a reed switch?

    2. Where are you a Spreadboss? This must be a huge construction project!
     
  5. dukeluca86

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    Yes tell us more...
     
  6. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    And not only a magnetic field; a static polarity magnetic field. A reed switch doesn't react to alternating polarity magnetic field unless it's really low frequency. But... a Hall effect transistor does. Hmmm.

    I wonder if they're working in or around some lodestone or iron pyrite deposits...

    mnem
    "Crime and punishment... punishment and crime... IN THE HALL!" - SpongeBob
     
  7. Toughbook

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    How in the hell did you get so wicked smart? Wheaties?

    Can you build a warp drive?
     
  8. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Close... Quadro-triticale-ies. ;) Smart breakfast for smart peoples. :GEEK:
    No. They don't let me do that anymore. :radar:

    mnem
    "I could tell you, but then I'd have to warp you... somewhere."
     
  9. ravemoyers

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    Okay... I just have to know two things...

    1. Where are you working where you are close enough to that strong a magnetic current to close a reed switch?

    2. Where are you a Spreadboss? This must be a huge construction project!


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    1a. We are a logistics crew, we track pipeline material globally. We are around pipeline yards and when we get in between some of these pipe the magnetic field these pipes are producing was sleeping our computers because of the power settings / close lid thing. "If you touch one end of a a pipe and have your hand on another it will SHOCK the hell out of you" Sometimes you can see the grit from where the laborers are smoothing down the edges of these pipes stand up and move with the wind on the edges its pretty neat if you ask me.

    2a. SPREADBOSS take a a look if you wanna!
     
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    No tribble at'tall captain. Driller
     
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    Well... You learn something new every day!

    Rave... Thanks for posting back and Uncle... Thanks for the link!
     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I remember when I was working at Hall Hoist & Crane doing assembly welding; I was on a line welding huge steel castings to a forged steel flange for one of the gearboxes they used.

    These castings were so big and the welding current was so great that to get correct penetration, they had to have the ground always within 12" of the arc. This would not be a problem, save the fact that the welding current would create enough magnetic field to kick a magnetic ground off the casting, and you couldn't ground to the flange or you'd lose the penetration.

    What we had to do was to weld 1/2" thick tabs every 6" around the circumference of the casting because it couldn't have any protrusions that you could clamp to, and weld at one tab, then the opposite one criss-crossing all around the circle. We'd run 2 sticks through at a time before rotating to the opposite side; the first stick would just about create the puddle before it was gone, then you'd get the actual progress on the weld with the next one, and you had to be quick to stab the new rod while it was still glowing to keep the puddle flowing. Then across to the opposite side to keep it from warping. The tabs would be knocked off in finishing and sent back to us.

    We used rods the size of your finger, and the arc was so big that you could actually FEEL the burn like sunburn if your gloves, apron & chaps weren't tied up right & they left a spot that was only protected by street clothes.

    It took hours to complete a pass correctly; then every pass was X-rayed before you moved on to the next pass. It was hot, sweaty work even in the dead of winter, and even with the fume extraction I still went home tasting the slag every day.

    Nowadays I imagine they would forge it one-piece and cut the whole thing on some ginormous CNC milling machine...

    *Sigh*

    mnem
    I am a walking anachronism.
     
  14. Doobi

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    You lost me after "you couldn't ground to the flange or you'd lose the penetration"

    :eek:
     
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    I would understand maybe being too close to some kind of auxilary pump in the pipeline somewhere. However, the fluid inside could almost act as a FeroFluid when traveling at a certain velocity and/or spiraling down the pipe?
    If so then you are working next to a pipe that acts very similar to an anti-gravatic propulsion system! XD or you just have a lot of UFO's buzzing around overhead shutting down your CF-19's just for the fun of it. ;P
     
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    I love the odd stuff I learn around here. I went off to work yesterday and asked my best welder if he had ever run into this issue. He promptly reminded me of the pipe piles we welded up on the barge a couple of years ago where the boys had their leads wrapped around the pipe for a few turns whilst making the root pass. Sure enough, that's why they were doing it.
    CAP
     
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    I got nothin. I was gonna be ambiguous, but nothin' good is comin to mind
     
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    Makes me want to buy a welder... again.

    I remember stick welding when I was in the sign business. But I just had small welding jobs compared to you guys... But I know what Mnem means about the slag... I had a helmet and gloves... That was it. I can't tell you how many burns I got on my feet from slag dropping down the tongue of my tennis shoes. It wouldn't stop until it got to my feet. That and down the front of my shirt at times. If OSHA would have come by our shop we'd have been put out of business.

    (Mnem said "Penetration")
     
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    "Nowadays I imagine they would forge it one-piece and cut the whole thing on some ginormous CNC milling machine..."

    Yes but only until I finish building the replicator... mmm, chick-en.
     
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    And their are no problems, with ur harddisk because of the magnetic field?
    Would be nice to c an CRT-monitor into this field....
     
  21. mnementh

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    Oh yeah; we always wore Engineer boots. No laces, no tongues, no place for the slag to get inside of. The over strap could still getcha, tho; but not as bad as sneakers or even your average construction-type steel-toed boots; they were the worst. The slag would burn all the way down to your toes before you could get those miserable goddammits off. Regular welding shop work was a vacation compared to this gig; they had special gear because you NEEDED it. You were exposed to enough UV radiation to cook you like a Christmas goose; 3rd degree burns literally in minutes if you were on the stinger.

    mnem
    ZZZZZZT!