Most reliable laptops!

LMAO! They don't even have Panasonic listed!

Who makes the most reliable laptops? | Crave - CNET

I'd be willing to place bets that Panasonic would have 3-5 times the reliability of any other brand if they actually did a study... God forbid we go back to THIS thread...

~Rob - re-opening Pandora's box!

 

Yeah well... there's 30 seconds (Well, now 90 seconds, with this post) of my life I'll never get back. What a waste of cyberspace. Why even bother to post that? It's like saying "It doesn't matter what brand of car you buy - they're all the same under the paint."

Ducktards.

mnem
And I'm the ducktard who bothers to...

 

Maybe it's a reliability survey of laptops makes that are known to be unreliable?

I suppose that's unfair (I actually like some non-Panasonic laptops), but omitting Panasonic does seem quite the oversight.

Then again, relatively few end-users buy a new Panasonic laptop. It seems that organizations buy them, and we all get them secondhand. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but that puts us in a different category than users of the makes listed.

 

It's amazing to think that they really are ALL the same EXCEPT for Panasonic!! LMFAO! They have NO CLUE because they've N-E-V-E-R actually used them! Let alone taken them apart!

Well, some of us get them second hand... ... I like the idea of NEW Toughbooks...

~Rob - spoiled rotten~

 

Rob if they included Panasonic then it would have skewed their numbers and then they would have disproved their own theory that all laptops are basically the same regardless of manufacturer. "Statistics don't lie and liars use statistics".

 

Just read a thread on another forum saying consumer reports is useless. I think if toughbooks were on that list they would actually be fairly hight on repairs because they actually get used.

 

I'd be surprised if Panasonic shared 1% of laptop sales.....so there is that. I mean, otherwise, every rugged notebook manufacturer would be on top of that list methinks.

Does apple still build their own stuff, or is it an asian mill product nowadays?

 

Most parts coming outta apples (including main boards) are made in China...

 

I don't have much problem w/chinese circuit boards, but it's when you have 3 single companies producing everything for everyone that they start spreading their resources a little too thin and quality starts taking a turn. Not to mention the clients cost-cutting measure to populate said circuit boards w/the lowest bidder components.

 

Yeah, well... If it puts it in my price range, I'll take a used HUMVEE too, as long as they leave the .50 cal mount intact and it doesn't have too many shrapnel holes...

mnem
Now where'd I put that JATO rocket...?

 

Dewed... EVERYTHING is made in China now... even US Elections.

mnem
Deep-discount. Deep doo-doo.

 

That reminds me of American Products Company Auto Parts!

 

I'll have whatever he's having (when sally met harry)....Driller

 

Funny and sad at the same time!

 

I am a 40-something parent of 2 small children. I'm not all here.

Only because it's true. Lets just hope Canada keeps buying up those loans...

mnem
The big picture... is a horror show.

 

I think those reports focus on the mainstream, easily available at Wal Mart devices. Toughbook and Getac, etc.. are specialty machines with a small market share compared to Dell, HP, Apple etc..
It's like doing a report on the safest vehicles and including a school bus. Yes, school buses are among the safest vehicles on the highway, but how many regular Joe's actually own one or would spend $70,000 to buy one.

 

Schoolbuses are one of those great examples of how statistics can be made to say anything.

True, PER PASSENGER, schoolbuses are one of the safest vehicles on the highway. That's because they can carry 40-60 passengers, and they make very short trips in normal usage.

PER MILE... that is another story altogether; most buses travel so few miles in a year that it is possible to see some lucky examples operate for 20 years in normal service, barring failure caused by corrosion as seen in the salt belt or catastrophic accident.

And PER UNIT... school buses are the most horrifying statistic of all. Most school buses are NOT removed from service due to excessive mileage; no, they are removed from service because of age and mandatory limits on such, or, much more often (actually, more often than all other causes combined), due to catastrophic accident. How many passengers are on the bus at the time of said accident is a statistic that most school districts try to keep to themselves; however, sheer law of averages says the buses can't all be empty when they die.

The single most common weak point on all school buses? Tires that have been in service for too many years; they rarely wear out. That is followed by brakes that appear safe at inspection but linings have dried out & become brittle with age.

Think twice before you put your child on that big yellow beast.

mnem
There are lies, and there are d@mned lies, and then, there are statistics.

 

Maybe that is the case where you are at, but after working on and driving them for 20 years, I can guarantee you that things are different here. Our buses average 14k miles a year. They are inspected twice a year by mechanics and once a year by state police. They are also subject to random police inspections. Not to mention the drivers daily pre trip required by the federal dept of transportation. All drivers are required to have a CDL with passenger and school bus endorsements.
Tires are replaced frequently due to wear and any damage. Brake drums must be removed at every mechanics inspection to visually verify the condition of the braking system.
Any corrosion must be repaired or the state police will not issue a sticker for that unit. Without the inspection stickers the bus will not transport children.
Most districts require contractors to take the bus off regular runs at 10 years of age or less. Then if it is in decent shape, it becomes a spare. We have auction yards up here of literally hundreds of 10 to 15 year old buses. Excessive mileage may be a matter of opinion. 10 years at an average of 14k miles a year is 140k miles. Hardly what I would call excessive for a truck chassis. Buses here average about 75 miles a day.

These are statistics of my own experience. These numbers are conservative.
They do not include mileage from any activities.
High school students average about 35 per bus
Elementary students average about 60 per bus
140 buses in the garage I worked at.
14,000 average miles per year.
1,960,000 miles per year from that 1 garage.
20 years equals 39,200,000 miles
10 or less major collisions over 20 years.
I consider major collisions to be any damage to the passenger compartment.
10 or less major collisions in over 39 million miles!!!!
no fatalities, no major injuries, no broken bones
Fatalities from students personal vehicles traveling to/from school, 6 or more, probably more, but sadly, I can't remember them all.

 

I've been there, dunnat.

Worked in 2 bus garages after working as a fleet mechanic for one of the biggest trucking companies in the world. Got fired from both of them for not "overlooking" brakes that were intact and more than thick enough, but were so brittle after too many years of service that they would shatter if struck with a ball-pien hammer, and for not signing off on tires I knew to be more than 9 years old.

With all due respect to our law enforcement officers on this forum, the State Police don't know what it takes to make a commercial vehicle safe; I learned THAT from my service in a REAL fleet garage. They have a checklist, and they have to do a visual inspection, but they are NOT required to validate service histories or even check date codes on consumable parts. Truth is, they SHOULDN'T HAVE TO KNOW THAT EITHER - they have enough to worry about chasing bad guys.

Of course our experiences obviously differ; just as my experience experience as a fleet mechanic differed from my experience as a bus mechanic. I just hope that experience is indeed the aberration; though the insurance company stats that I found afterwards certainly did point in that direction. School bus manufacture and maintenance is one of the least regulated areas of commercial equipment deployment in the US, and I really do feel it is one of those areas where regulation should be consistent across the nation rather than left up to the state and local level.

mnem
Bus-ted.