Newest tough stuff! *OT*

Ain't quite a Toughbook, but I think all on here would agree that it falls under the "Tough Stuff" folder. Wadda you all think? w00t!









For a .22, this thing has a LOT of kick! LOVE IT! It's SO MUCH FUN to shoot! Went through 420 rounds today and it worked great!

Thanks

 

Nice squirt gun.

 

Yeah, yeah yeah! Before you knock it maybe you should try it! Coming from a guy that owns 2 Dulls...

 

you ought to check out their G-22. a bull pup version rifle. Like the pistol.................Driller

 

I know someone's gonna call it "bad trigger discipline"
and Kick? i have a P22 also my mom shoots it no problem,lol.
Seriously as much as I love my little Walther it is the opposite of tough first production runs were plagued with magazine problems causing jams and stovepipes. Plus the slide is supposedly some zinc alloy that is prone to cracking.
I never had a problem with mine but it is not up to toughbook reliability.
maybe a glock ugly but almost indestructable at least the early versions

 

J/K. The only gun I own is a .22

 

You noticed it too

My S@W 22 is just OK,it's a revolver so I can use cb long @ subsonic and shoot in the back yard without bugging anyone too much as it's just a little louder than a pellet gun

They are cheap to shoot, and as I said not loud
Other than those benefit's I get bored of the 22 , no kick /no fun
9mm and up for me

 

Very interesting little pistol. I like the Wather P22, we had one at the range for a few days. It needed some tweaking, but was a decent design.

I have an old Ruger RST512 Bull Barrel Target .22 Auto pistol I have done some work to. I know that I have at least 8000 rounds down it and it is still a good shooter. I bought it new for $120 and was pissed that I did not get it for $98 like my Pals the year before. This is not mine, but it is similar.

For a Trainer my Girlfriend bought me a Advantage Arms .22 Upper for my Glock 21 (.45 ACP) and 20 (10 mm) Auto pistols. It is a great training tool if you have a Glock! This is again not mine, but similar.

 

For the record, this picture was not posed. I set my ESEE-6 and my Glock 19 (9mm) on my CF-28 when I'm at home.

The Glock has trijicon night sights, and is loaded 15+1 with Hornady 147gr rounds. It is sitting in a Gould holster.

Yes, I carry it daily.

 

One of the many reasons I like my USP is it matches the toughbook

 

So... how do you suppose it stacks up in stopping power against... say... grand-dad's 10-ga Mossberg with 1.5 oz hollow-point slugs? :laugh:

Mmmhmmm? (I know from personal experience it will cut a 5-in sapling in half)

My gramma used to shoot THAT gun.

mnem
That woman was tougher than leather.

 

The P22 is VERY loud for a .22. My friend came with me to the range yesterday (and Samantha too) and Samantha is now VERY good with the P22 . Anyways, my buddy brought his .22 assult rifle and THAT gun is EXTREMELY quite and EXTREMELY accurate!

I've used Rugers and I don't like them because they are very large + they have NO recoil whatsoever, which is why I picked the P22 - It's small and is still fun to shoot.

As far as the early production problems, I obviously do NOT have an early production model. The original mag's were plagued with problems like failure to feed and failure to eject. They have THREE revisions of the magazines and revision B is the latest and works GREAT - I have 2 mag's, BOTH revision B.

 

I saw the conversion to turn my G22 into a 22LR but people with it said it jams way too much. How loose is that recoil spring?

 

Fascinating, but I have never heard of a Mossberg in 10 Gauge... What model was it?

Mine and my friend's all work like champs. They are particular about ammo. The slides are aluminum.

 

This P22 is pretty picky on ammo too... The hollow point mini mag rounds (CCI Inc.) work FLAWLESSLY in this weapon, except it's $8 for 100 rounds, which is TWICE THE PRICE. I only have this for home defense as I need reliability of coarse) The Remington round nose Thunderbolt works about 95% of the time for range use: http://www.northwestshootersupply.com/remingtonthunderbolt22lr40grleadroundnoseammo500rds.aspx

The Federal, hollow point doesn't work worth beans in this gun!

 

I'll stick with my H&K SOCOM MK23...

 

Federal doesn't work in my Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22 either (it's a dedicated .22lr AR-15). I've gotta use CCI mini mags.

I can't complain too much though. 100 rounds of those are $5-6, and 100 rounds of 5.56 for my real AR-15s is $30-40.

 

Everything feeds in my Ruger RST512 Bull Barrel, even .22 shorts stacked against the back of the mag! If only everything was so reliable.

 

DamifIno... it was a single-shot goose gun that was taller than I was. He liked these brass 4" shells; I have NO IDEA how many grains he loaded into 'em but I remember him telling me they were "ounce-inna-aff" slugs and loaded they looked 2 Duracells turned into one.

What was the kick like? Enough that as a 12-year-old it literally put me flat on my back like a domino, looking straight up at blue sky then down again to see if my shoulder was still attached. The sapling in question fell slightly slower as it only had the force of gravity to reckon with.

mnem
*Rubbing his shoulder absently*

 

Those were called "Boat Guns" and were used for market hunting, mostly in the Chesapeake Bay. They were mounted in the "sneak boats" and the game wardens spent a lot of time trying to find them. I have a bronze 10ga signaling cannon a friend made me, and Winchester made a lot of them out of steel and cast iron. They might have done a little boat gunning in Upstate New York.
CAP

 

Nah Cap, the 10 Gauge was small stuff compared to real "boat guns" also called Market Guns or Punt Guns. These badboys had bore diameters often exceeding 2 inches compared to the 10 gauges relatively diminutive .775". They could kill birds in large numbers, and were used in commercial harvesting operations. The largest shotgun that can be legally used for waterfowl hunting in the US is now 10 gauge.



I am fairly conversant in this subject, I am just not sure that Mossberg ever made a 10 gauge. Some of their modern shotguns, 935/835, are "overbored" with larger then standard barrels, but they still just fire a 12 gauge shell.

 

Here's a pic of favorite handgun. To bad it's in the states as I am in Europe
now. Getting it here is not an option.

http://www.ozarkguns.com/pistols/Smith &/smith_pistol_files/170173_large.jpg

It's the S&W Performance Center edition in the 1911 style. Shots smooth and accurate. Can't wait to get back to do some plinking with it.

 

AZ, I stand corrected.
CAP

 

I have a different thought when I think of "Boat Guns"
I envision a single shot 12ga covered in rust ,original cost <$50 new

As Teo says
Ask me how I know lol

 

...and mine's BIGGER than yours!!!

Holy crap! You can't call that thing a shotgun... more like a canon!

 

I have a p22 two. Mine is the blue bottom with silver top. Got it to add to my plinker collection. And the smaller grip works good when i take my kids out to shoot.

 

No Mossberg 10's, but how about ...

Remington Model SP-10™

 

Yeah, I used to have the Ithaca Mag-10 Roadblocker that gun was based on. Remington bought the design from Ithaca and used it as the basis for the Remington SP-10. The old Roadblocker was a great shotgun, but never very popular as most folks just don't want to deal with the recoil of the 10 gauge, just as the Dragon said. This is made more obvious by the fact that the Remington is already discontinued.

For me the biggest drawback of the Ithaca is that like the Remington it was limited to 3 rounds counting one in the chamber. That is not much for a modern defense shotgun as I sure that you will agree.

Plus, to be honest, there is no longer a big selection of loads for the 10 gauge in the US. Waterfowl hunting laws and the frankly better 3 1/2" 12 gauge Super magnum have all but sealed its doom.

This is my little 12, something that I built from a factory Saiga12. It is an AK in 12 gauge (3") and will use mags from 5 to 12 rounds and 10, 20, and 30 round drums. It has a faster cycle time then a Benelli and is a very hardy design. This one has now been upgraded with a railed fore end, short vertical fore-grip and lockbuster muzzle brake.


A sample 3x5 foot target of a holey man...

 

I would love a Saiga 12. It's on my list of the next 5 weapons to get.

After I get mine though, my plan is to send in a Form 1, and SBS it down to a 12-14" barrel. That thing will be fun!

 

I remember the Ithaca Mag-10 Rodblocker. Weak point was shell capacity (two in the magazine tube + one chambered).

Doesn't show as "discontinued" on the Remington site (click the link above).

 

Very nice! Now that's a real home defense weapon.

 

Look here.

 

Oops: shows "Status Discontinued" on the "Specifications" tab.

Oh, WELL! <sigh>

 

That looks great Azrial, never seen one of those
Makes my Benelli look like it should go on a diet

 

P22? Tough?

I was unaware that cast recycled pot metal was tough.

 

That is one sweet shotgun.