No wav level adjustment in soundcard recording properties

Hello all,

This is my 1st post here so forgive me if it isn't relevant. I've tried searching for relevant topics without any results. I'm trying to either record streaming audio (talkshows etc.) or trying to stream audio to a web server & I don't have this capability on this PC. I have tried re-rigging everything in windows & even reinstalled the sigmatel drivers from the panasonic website. I don't think that I ever had this capability in this newer CF-30C. I do have this capability on my CF-29. Any info would be much appreciated because this is very frustrating upgrading to a newer thoughbook & not having that functionality.

Thank you in advance,

cipher77

PS: Model -- CF-30CAQAZBM
MS Windows XP pro SP3

 

OK, get this.......I call Panasonic support & tell them that when I go into the recording properties of the sound card the only recording option is for CD Audio & Microphone. After 20 minutes on hold, he came back only to say that is normal for the CF-30 sigmatel HD Audio card. I really find this hard to believe!!!! My CF-29 had WAV, "what you hear" & a couple other options as well. I DO NOT have ANY option to use this laptop to record anything other than the microphone. I cannot record any audio off of the internet or internally (I use WAV editing applications that cannot receive the input of recording "what you hear" or WAV output ie. media player or realplayer, winamp etc.)

Someone please tell me that this isn't true.................

cipher77

 

I'm not sure if this would help but are there any settings for the sound in your BIOS to possibly give you more options in Windows? Just a guess.

Hmmm... In my CF-30 I have a Sigma Tell icon in the Control Panel that has everything you describe. Are you using that or Windows?

 

Mmmhmmm...

Your solution may be simpler in the form of a USB Audio adapter; I got about 1300 hits on FleaBay, models of all design & prices from $2-$200. This is the first one I saw that SPECIFICALLY has line input:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220380700045

You may wish to search further for one that is actually being shipped from the US, however.

mnem
FLARG THE BLARG WITH THE DARG TARG!

 

Toughbook,

Thanx for the reply!!!

From what I have already investigated, no

I have the same properties for the Sigmatel and the windows audio card control panel mixer.

If you got to your mixer, go to options then settings & then choose "recording" & what do you have show up? All I have is "CD audio" and "microphone". Is yours the same?

 

I've looked into that option already. I've already got enough "tumors" hanging off of my toughbook: TV tuner, broadband and GPS. the last thing I need is more clutter. the only thing that I would remotely consider is a PCM/CIA sound card (with out the growth on the end) that uses a dongle for external connections but the cheapest one I've found so far is $350.

There's got to be a way to have this work. I just cannot believe and really can't accept the fact that these state of the art laptops have less sound card functionality than it's predicessor.

 

I don't think this is possible on any laptop soundcard (recording internally) The only way I can think that this would be possible would be to run a patch cord from the headphone out to the mic input. I looked at my CF-29 and CF-30 recording properties and both had the same options mic or CD audio. Are you sure you were able to do this on your old 29?

 

Almost every laptop that has the AC97 codec can do it. it's the "WAV" recording setting in the recording properties of the mixer. Even my CF-29 does this. that's whay I am so tork'd off that this newer model doesn't have that capability.

 

None of my toughbooks have this in the recording properties perhaps you need a third party software/codec?

 

This is not only a toughbook problem. U will find it also on other state of the art computers an laptops. Thanks RIAA.... It's a problem of the driver from ur soundcard. Because I did not have this issue, u should look for self http://www.google.com/search?q=record+soundkarte+sigmatel+driver+xp

 

I had a remote thought early in this quest that the RIAA & DRM had something to do w/ it but I dismissed it as thinking the RIAA didn't have that much pull. I knew that they are a tyrannical dictatorial body governing the software industry but I had NO Clue that they would ever be strong enough to dictate the hardware industry as well?!?!?

 

I find that kindof unlikely; I would suggest that, like most such decisions, it was based nearly entirely on the desire to save a few cents in production costs.

A LOT of laptops DON'T HAVE a Line-Input (the primary use for .wav recording); it's not really a popular option. As manufacturers move towards more & more integrated chips for basic functionality, the drive to make it cheaper means that only the features people are screaming for continue to get attention.

I suspect that what happened here is that functionality was not implemented, so support electronics were deleted to save cost, then eventually the chipset evolved without that functionality, and finally, a version which doesn't include that functionality at all becomes the de-facto standard (by dint of less hardware requirement and lower price-point due to not needing to develop either hardware or software support) for the low-priced end of the scale.

Remember, the sound system on a ToughBook has always been pretty much an afterthought; they don't even bother with stereo speakers. I really doubt that the Retards Intending to Assimilate all of America are interested in keeping you from recording stuff on your Toughbook; more likely its just a matter of a manufacturer not being bothered to support it on a cheap-@ss chipset.

mnem
chipStufft!

 

Sorry mnementh, but I think, u are propably wrong - or maybee - I hope so. A friend of me had the same issue with a new Dell and he found a solution to install an older driver for the same chipset. Now he have to be aware not to install the newer driver, which will also come with windowsupdate....
I mean the function is not depending from a part of hardware. As long, as ur soundcard can play and record u can also record the stream, which is converted inside of the chip, if u have the right driver and codec.
For a reason possible look here and here

 

Ummm... yeah, but that doesn't mean the Retards Intending to Assimilate all of America are behind it - in fact, those discussions support my suggestion that the manufacturers simply don't want to be bothered with the cost of support for a feature few people care about on a cheap-@ss chipset...

BTW, the AC97 & SigmaTel are ALL cheap-@ss chipsets... I say, just be glad when they work AT ALL, cuz half the time they DON'T.

mnem
*Kix RealTek in the 'nards on GENERAL PRINCIPLE*