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    *OT* WD Demos 12Gbps SAS SSD *OT*

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by mnementh, May 3, 2012.

  1. mnementh

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    Can't wait for you senior wizards of tb's hacking this into our machines!
     
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    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    Thats cute! :)
     
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    re-reading the article:
    this new Hitachi SSD has 2 x 12Gbps ports, so using link aggregation it has a 24Gbps connection to the controller.

    One port has 12Gbits/8 = 1.5GBytes/s (excluding signaling overhead)
    because SAS, as well as SATA use 8b/10b encoding, the maximum theoretical speed is even lower, 1.5*8/10 = 1.2 GBytes per second.

    It has 2 ports, so that's 2.4 GB/s.

    IF (as it seems from the article) we count total port speed read and write (FULL-duplex) than we could have 2 x 2.4 = 4.8 GB/s.

    But when you write a movie to the SSD you're only transferring data one-way,
    so only 2.4GB/s. that's considering the SSD can sustain that speed.
    i.e. there are WD Caviar Green HDD's with SATA3 (6Gbps) interface, that would never reach even 200MB/s read speed, let alone 600MB/s as the interface supports.

    But, as current SATA SSDs exceed 500MB/s, I wouldn't be surprised to see one soon doing 2.4GB/s sustained speed.
    That OCZ Revo Card is close, double the number of parallel channels and it's even faster.

    so it seems, we were both wrong...
     
  7. Dave143

    Dave143 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, you should know that SATA is pretty well capped at 6 Gb/s. In order to use 12Gb SAS, you have to add (somehow) a SAS host adapter, which does not exist today in any form for a laptop (and likely never will). Getting the dual port feature to run in order to use it to stripe data across the two ports would be a huge further challenge. In addition to the electronics problem the OS driver would have to support the striping. I don't think that MS does this at all. Dunno about LINUX.

    It is nice to dream, though.

    Dave
     
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    i'm sure there won't be any SAS (an enterprise server standard) controller on a laptop(consumer), it doesn't make any sense.
    However, SATA versions seem to follow the SAS versions, at least they did untill now (regarding speed).

    What has already appeared (Macs from 2011 and a few other laptops) is a Thunderbolt port (Intel Light Peak) which is a 10Gbps interface, some sort of external universal PCI Express combined with DisplayPort on a miniDP connector.

    Hope the some of the new models from Panasonic would include that.
     
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    Why not a bootable drive for the PC/Express slot? They have adapters that will take a PCI card.
     
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    Dave143 Notebook Consultant

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    Though there is not a completed PCIe interface for drives yet, I agree that is a likely future drive interface.

    Dave