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    Reinstalling xp on panasonic CF-19

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by sirus666, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. sirus666

    sirus666 Newbie

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    Hello folks i'm new to the forum & desperately need help.
    I have a cf-19 & need to reinstall xp the reason is when it boots up it gets to the xp screen then i get the bsod this all started after i tried to reinstall xp using a usb drive (not the best idea i've had) any how so now i'm stuck and don't know what to do.
     
  2. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Do you have a USB DVD Rom? Do you have recovery disks? If not... Have you downloaded all the drivers you'll need?
     
  3. mick711

    mick711 Notebook Guru

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    I buy a CF19 and install new XP on it ;)

    Use Nlite for integrate SATA driver on your XP Pro

    Use USB Stick with this : http://www.eeeguides.com/2007/11/installing-windows-xp-from-usb-thumb.html


    For Drivers you can find here :

    http://pc-dl.panasonic.co.jp/cgi-bin/itn/toughbook/dl01.cgi

    Just for Blutooth Driver use this : http://redirectingat.com/?id=525X83...f-19%20mk-1%20bluetooth%20%20xp%20drivers.zip

    Thanks to JB007Rules For upload it ;)

    If you have other problem post or MP me my CF19 work very well :D
     
  4. sirus666

    sirus666 Newbie

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    mick711 you are a star.

    The problem was the sata driver i had not loaded it at the beginning of the instalation,i took it for granted that xp would find it but i was wrong.So now using your links i have downloaded the right driver and manage the to do the usb install of xp so all i can say now is Thank you very much for pointing me the right direction to go.
     
  5. Doobi

    Doobi ToughBook DeityInTraining

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    GREAT WRITE-UP MICK!! Rep to You!!!
     
  6. psychocandy

    psychocandy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Mick,

    Did you slipstream ALL the SATA/AHCI drivers from that download or just the one you needed?

    I've being trying to the same. Create a slipstream windows XP CD and then boot from USB CD drive but its failing miserably....

    see http://www.msfn.org/board/slipstrea...rivers-but-still-bsod-t138117-pid-883993.html
     
  7. mick711

    mick711 Notebook Guru

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    Psychocandy i send to you MP ;)

    What Proc on the CF19 ?

    U2400
    U7200
    U9300
     
  8. psychocandy

    psychocandy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmm. No idea. :-(
     
  9. mick711

    mick711 Notebook Guru

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    When you stard computer push F2 for go to the bios and you can see ;)
     
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    alexgromov Notebook Enthusiast

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    jlar Newbie

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    My Toughbook (CF-19) has a 'Windows Vista Business OEMAct, Panasonic' COA on the bottom of the unit. When I extracted the key before reformatting - it was a 'Windows XP Professional' Product Name and the Product ID code has 'OEM' in it...and I can confirm this upgrade was last OS installed (w/ Service Pack 3) - but there was the tablet functionality.

    This extracted product key isn't working with any version of Windows I try installing. XP Pro, XP Pro Tablet 2005 OEM, Tablet XP OEM. Any insights?
     
  12. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Wrong key

    You will need restore disks for your model
    That is the easiest way as you have to install sata drivers when you use a regular disk
    Available for $30 or so on ebay or from Hearland services in the USA
    Post your full model # and I will link to the proper disks or find the part # for them


    Alex
     
  13. jlar

    jlar Newbie

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    Cf-19fcgadcm
     
  14. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    jlar -

    Based on the fact that you DO NOT have a Windows XP COA on your laptop, I suspect one of the two following scenarios:

    Your "extracted" product key (and therefore your Windows XP install) may have been from a pirated copy of Windows XP (There are literally HUNDREDS OF VERSIONS that have been circulated on the internet by now), or it may have been an automatically generated key from a "Site license" copy of XP. NEITHER key is valid; the Pirated copy for obvious reasons, but the site license key because that license DOESN'T BELONG with the PC - it ONLY belongs to the company that bought the site license, and it is NOT TRANSFERABLE.

    You have three choices to acquire a legal install of Windows on your machine:

    Buy a Retail copy of Windows XP complete with COA (A choice you may not like, since you CANNOT BUY XP Tablet PC edition - it was only sold to OEMs and system builders)

    or:

    Reinstall the correct version of Windows Vista as appropriate to the COA on your laptop

    or:

    Buy an upgrade version of Win7 and do a clean install. Your Windows Vista COA has at least some value there; it entitles you to use the less expensive Upgrade version to install Win7, then you'll have BOTH COAs.

    No matter what you do, unless YOU have a site license for whatever version of Windoze you want to run, you HAVE TO HAVE A COA for that version to be legal.

    At this point, I'll take a moment to remind my fellow members that TPTB at notebookreview.com frown on discussion of how to circumvent ANY form of security or licensing on your laptop; it is VERBOTEN.

    mnem
    Go ahead. Ask me how I know.
     
  16. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    mnem

    I looked up the part # and it is licenced, using restore disks for the xp downgrade
    So like most newer Toughbooks it has Vista and XP as options


    Alex
     
  17. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Alex -

    If the previous owner BOUGHT the downgrade, it would have EITHER one COA with BOTH keys (Like they did with the dual-boot models), or a second key for the downgrade option. Microsuck does NOT play nice with their licensure; they WILL stick it tooya if they find out you have a privately owned laptop with an OS OTHER than that described on the COA.

    I went through all this myself on my Dell XPS-M1330; it was SUPPOSED to be eligible for the "free downgrade" to XP, which I requested; when I got, it had Vista on it and ONLY a COA for Vista. I went round and round with them over several afternoons; of course the phone banks in India outlasted me, so I just used one of my student license COAs on it.

    mnem
    Even dragons must choose their battles...
     
  18. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    For some reason the two keys are not shown on the COA, and have not been there since the cf-28 models
    All my newer models are licensed for both, but one O/S at a time and they come with both disks
    Official specs on his model
    Alex
     
  19. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Alex -

    I got nuthin'. You say you own one made that way I'll believe you; but that does contradict everything I've been told in my own very similar case.

    Since they're both OEM Version install disks I don't imagine Setup is going to demand the Key anyways unless you try to install on something other than a Panasonic... but it REALLY irks me to find out yet again that M$ tells one thing to one customer and something completely different to another, especially when I'm the OTHER.

    mnem
    *Flips M$ the bird just on GP*
     
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    Alex Super Moderator

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    According to this, once you "downgrade" you STILL cannot activate automatically; you have to call M$ activation line and talk to someone. Does the Panny restore disc actually have the OOBE timer enabled? I've had some Dell restores that didn't...

    mnem
    Micro$uck... ehh. What more do I need to say.
     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Well... that document echoes what the M$ document says - that they are NOT actually providing a license for Windows XP, but rather expect the Corporate Customer to assume licensure via their pre-existing site license for XP. Panasonic is just providing the convenience of pre-loading the OS of choice for the Corporate Customer who already has a site license.

    This would mean that once the laptop leaves the ownership of the Corporate Customer (and their XP site license) actual licensure for XP is vaporware. (Like most of M$ promises)

    The XP restore media would be an "end-run" around this... since it doesn't demand the key at registration. I don't know if this version has the OOBE timer disabled; if it doesn't, you'll have to register via the manual process described in the M$ document. Therein may lie your snag; they may refuse to honor that activation since you are not the Corporate Customer that originally had the site license that both documents refer to.

    Uggghhh. I hate this legal cr@p.

    mnem
    Fekking lawyers... they could mess up a wet dream.
     
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    db04p71 Notebook Deity

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    The XP and Vista restore discs do not require activation or registration.

    Glen
     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I'll take your word for it Glen - I've seen 'em both ways; tho when they have the OOBE timer disabled in restore media, they're usually very restrictive about letting it get out to the general public.

    Still doesn't negate what I said about the legal BS involved, or the lawyers pertinent to it. :wink:

    mnem<~~~ Legal. Barely. ~~~<<<