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    SMD fuses and fatigue

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Shawn, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Friends of Bill and Bob will really relate.

    I did not get enough sleep this weekend, (my own stupidity)so by the end of work yesterday I was incredibly exhausted. :(
    Too exhausted to even eat dinner :eek:......So I decided to instead work on a Toughbook with major electronic issues :rolleyes:......

    So where is a good source for SMD motherboard fuses? :mad: Now I need about 6...
     
  2. onirakkiss

    onirakkiss Notebook Deity

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    I have local store here in Germany some streets away :), ok not helpful for u.

    Or online...Their are a lot of possibilities. Maybe this one: SMD-Fuses at reichelt elektronik

    But I recycle a lot of parts from non Toughbook computers ;)
     
  3. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    heh ...

    H.A.L.T
    :laugh:

    do you have the schematic and/or the mA rating and physical size of the smd fuses needed ?

    jameco and mouser electronics carry smd parts but the prices may be high in small quantities (not to mention the shipping costs) .
    checking at cheesebay is a good idea .
     
  4. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    No schematics for this one....I can read the amps from the fuse or motherboard. I hope...
    Physical size, well I can look at them :D

    I may be able to salvage fuses from old motherboards...I have a Hot air station....Hot air won't destroy the used fuse, will it?

    Can I piggyback the new fuse without any issues? I figure I can, but at this point I better ask even the simple questions..


    Yes, I thought it was a perfect example of HALT.......But I got too stupid before I read the HALT sign...
     
  5. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    you can piggyback fuses as long as the original is "open" ...
    i have done this in the past , looks kinda tacky but if one is in a hurry and does not make a habit of it , it is ok for Q&D .

    i have removed fuses with a soldering iron ... on and off real fast .
    those fuses are only good for so many thermal cycles ... as outlined in the data sheet on the devices at hand .
    i have not had problems with "recycling" chip fuses .

    perhaps the fuse is the same physical size as one in a (say) CF-30 ... this would provide a size reference .
    elsewise , accurate measurements or a straight on picture with a mm scale rule will do .
    these fuses , like their resistor and capacitor brethren come in specific physical sizes .
    provide the numbers on the device , although the current rating may or may not be *coded* on the device .

    what piece of equipment are you working on ?
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    I have dial calipers to get a more exact size......
    Most Toughbook fuses state 1A or 2A on them.

    It's a Toughbook that I have already invested more than I probably should, considering I seem to be making it worse...I should have just rolled up the money and smoked it. I would have gotten more for my investment..

    I should walk away from it for a week or two I suppose. But as you and I know, I am way too compulsive/obsessive to ever do that.
     
  7. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    fine business on the calipers ... they do not lie (provided they are calibrated to zero) .

    yeah , i know what you mean about things going from bad to worse ...
    it is like chewing on a tough piece of meat ... it just gets bigger .
    or "yessir , he done engineered it right off the air ..." .
    :laugh:

    "I should walk away from it for a week or two I suppose. But as you and I know, I am way too compulsive/obsessive to ever do that."
    /me pours out a bag of skittles on shawn's coffee table .
    sometimes , the best thing to do is to walk away from *something* for a while ... there is no shame in that .
    convincing ourselves of that point is not easy .

    "I should have just rolled up the money and smoked it. I would have gotten more for my investment.."
    what is the difference between a egg sandwich and a ham sandwich ?
    with an egg sandwich , the chicken is involved ... with a ham sandwich , the pig is committed .
    so what yer saying here is that you are a ham sandwich on the deal ?

    anywho ...
    i await the measurements to be posted .
     
  8. Shawn

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    I know myself well enough.. I am the ham.....I probably should be the chicken, but it ain't gonna happen. :rolleyes:

    At this point either I will fix the fuses or I will wait to find a new motherboard...I was hoping for a quick repair, but it's going to be a long term project now...My determination can take over my common sense.... :confused:

    I'll have to send you photos of my truck,,,It started off with me wanting a wood steering wheel...... My Ranger now looks so much like a Lincoln that I fool Ford dealers... :D:thumbsup:

    Measurements will be posted. Hopefully I will wait until the weekend to even look at it...

    Thank you very much Larry..:hi2:
     
  9. safn1949

    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    Fair to assume this is the 53 you have? I will have a spare,but buggered LCD for one soon for experimental purposes if you want it. Non touch but still works.

    Hey Larry,you desperado,how's things? :D
     
  10. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    doin' ok here kerry ... hardly any snow and the temperature has been hanging around 32F ... it was -10F for a couple of days .

    @ shawn :
    yeah ... there are a few outfits that carry smd components available in small quantities .
    a quick check at geasebay shows many sellers ... once you get past all those "led fuse lamps" .

    what model is the unit ?
    i may be able to get an idea of what is needed by exercising my google-fu .
    if you are going to be experimenting it may be a good idea to get poly-fuses (if they will fit) :
    poly fuses | eBay
     
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  11. Shawn

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    Larry,
    I will get back to you.
    I am trying to stop and slow down for a day or two....My brain was in freight train mode....Not good...
     
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    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    Kerry, yes, I'll take the LCD.

    Larry, wrong model, BUT the idea to use a parts manual to list the fuses was a great help..Fuses are all still good..:thumbsup:

    I had to completely remove the motherboard to find them...I have learned a lot already.....
     
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    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    OK,I should have it next week,will also send the led CF-52 back light. Stuff is piling up. :D
     
  15. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    ok on the fuses ...
    yeah , as long as the "base model" motherboard is the same , the parts list for certain components will usually jibe .
    over the years i have come to realize that most of the time there are no changes made to fuse ratings .
    there must be a reason that you suspected the fuse(s) of being TUITB ... to the point of removing the motherboard , what problems are you encountering ?

    @ kerry :
    so , yer mobile bone-pile is growing ... how long before the neighbors start getting ugly about it ?
    :laugh: :p
     
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    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    Heck,the average age here is about 70+ so they think I'm the paperboy and ignore me.