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    Scope module for CF-29?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by shackwrrr, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. shackwrrr

    shackwrrr Notebook Consultant

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    I seen that there were some modules for the 29 for telecommunications work but I wondered if there were any modules to use my cf29 as an oscilloscope. I think it would be very helpful for the automotive diagnostic work I do.
     
  2. old busted

    old busted Notebook Evangelist

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    I would be interested in the telco modules :)
     
  3. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I've never seen or heard of an Oscilloscope Module for the ToughBook line; however, there are a number of USB DSOs out there from many manufacturers. Entry level models from Parallax start at $99; their 40KHZ bandwidth is barely enough to diag most analog sensors and ignition signal and the OBDII bus at the header. For internal digital bus and some sensors, you WILL need more bandwidth; Pico, Velleman and of Course Agilent & HP make more expensive models going up to the thousands of dollars; but ANY kit DESIGNED for automotive use is going to be $1000+. :(

    I've been looking at the DSO Nano on Amazon for $89; it has a 1 mhz B/W, so should be more than adequate for anything I'd be doing away from my bench and my Tek 2465.

    Amazon.com: DSO Nano oscilloscope V2: Electronics

    See the manual here:

    http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/datasheet/DSO Nano v2 Manual.pdf

    mnem
    Zoot-Zoot Zooty!
     
  4. shackwrrr

    shackwrrr Notebook Consultant

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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Yeah, that's a USB model with a 1mhz B/W. Should be just about enough for basic automotive diag work; won't let you do much internal diagnostics (Inside the computers), but should be good for most sensors and ignition trace as well as the OBDII header and external body computer buses.


    Make sure you get the 1:10 probes along with; you'll need them for ignition trace and injector diag.

    What you'll need to do is build your own USB header inside the MP slot; something simple using a USB header for a PC expansion card slot should work. Then connect that to a port inside using the internal USB hack.

    mnem
    silly-scoped.
     
  6. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Gut, a floppy drive caddy and mod the front for the inputs,that scope module looks small enough

    Or do the same with a Toughbook telco caddy
     
  7. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    The Tempo VIP ( Virtual Instrument Package) Sidekick tester unit only works in the retired SBC Mk3 CF-29HTM50BM Toughbooks, as they are the only ones factory outfitted with the Media Bay tester interface.

    That being said:

    Tempo VIP Sidekick 1136-5000.
     
  8. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    I think that the Tempo VIP's are using a serial interface.
     
  9. rally3

    rally3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    But what software is available/needed to use them ?
     
  10. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Most of these USB scopes ship with basic dashboard software that emulates a regular DSO. Many of these software packages use the same protocols, so you can often use software from one on another device.

    The VIP/TEMPO uses custom software designed by the Telco; there are several versions.

    mnem
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  11. Arlington_Modder

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    Anyone had luck converting a Tempo VIP Sidekick 1136-5000 to a standalone instrument, ideally with a USB interface? I notice it is very easy to open up the 1136-5000 by removing 4 small Phillips head screws. :D A thin cable connects from the custom serial port designed to interface with the Toughbook. I have seen web references to a standalone Tempo VIP Sidekick
     
  12. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    Here's your "stand-alone" Tempo Sidekick.

    The "VIP" stands for "Virtual Instrument Package."