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    Stirring the pot

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by interestingfellow, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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  2. Driller

    Driller Notebook Evangelist

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    damn man, I think you just slammed the lid and pulled the chain!!!!!! my hats off to you! ......Driller
     
  3. adamwest436

    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    I almost posted but.... Not about to get banned for a "in before the lock" reply

    *edit* lets see where this goes.
     
  4. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Perfection (As I posted there) is eye in the beholder...

    Perfect gaming laptop?
    Perfect rugged laptop?
    Perfect portable/small laptop?

    I doubt you'd get any funding unless these issues are defined.

    But it makes for a fun chat...
     
  5. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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    i agree TB.

    i like to define perfect as "complete"; as originally intended, not flawless as it is often mispercieved...
    although it's within reason to use iether definition when referring to our pannys.

    imho
     
  6. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Unless it was a "system" that was completely modular(heavy and very expensive), I don't think it would work. Even then you get into varying size and weight needs. Even in this very loyal Toughbook forum, everyone who owns a CF 29 has a different need/idea/mod for their personal machine. I think it's a interesting yet impossible concept. If it was possible, then Panasonic, Dell, or Apple would be selling them. Even Panasonic, who focus is on rugged laptops sells half a dozen different models in order to try to cover the marketplace.
    Joe Soldier in the Afghan desert doesn't want an Imac or Dull that will self destruct at the first sign of sand. Just like Bob Billionaire doesn't want to lug around a 25lb hermetically sealed Toughbook from boardroom to boardroom.
    If you can come up with the toughness of a Toughbook, idiotproof operation and use of a Mac, cost of a Wal Mart HP in an Asus EEE wieight class with the latest 16 core gaming CPU and GPU you may have something.
     
  7. adamwest436

    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    Joe Soldier in his tent on his personal time would have a mac. I'm the only one I know in my unit with a "civilian toughbook". Stateside we have more DoD Dulls than toughbooks. The fact that it can't easily break is why I ignore the weight. It's also fun to watch people say stuff like "it has a handle so I can just come in and run away with it". Even funnier when they actually pick it up and say "#$%^ that, too heavy, do not want!"
     
  8. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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    Yeah, I witnessed a collision yesterday, and after I was done speaking with the trooper, I asked him what kind of rugged notebook he had mounted in his car (we were right next to it, and I already knew it was a Motorola ML910).

    He misses his panny. Poor bass tard...
     
  9. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    This just hit my e-mail InBox from PoliceOne Product Alert:

    Getac Introduces the Fastest Fully Rugged Convertible‏

    "The V200 rugged convertible is powered by an Intel® Core i7 2.0 GHz Processor, the fastest dual-core processor of any fully-rugged convertible on the market."


    Guess they liked the looks of the CF-18 / CF-19 Toughbooks. ;) :rolleyes:

    Wonder how Panasonic will respond? :confused:
     
  10. rcx

    rcx Notebook Consultant

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    Interesting that the product features section notes "fan-less design," contrasted with the "with-fan design" of the CF-31 and its selection of Intel Core i3 and i5 processors discussed earlier....
     
  11. adamwest436

    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow and you all gave me hell for my toughbook being like 87% black. That thing looks like 3 different models blended together. Well who is gonna post this in that thread?
     
  12. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    The cover looks gray to me:

    [​IMG]
    Bright display:

    QuadraClear™ display
    Sunlight-readable 1200 NITs QuadraClear™ LED display with multi-touch technology leads the industry in viewability.


    Not too impressed with its Carrying Handle. ;)

    [​IMG]

    Looks uncomfortable to me. :eek:

    Oh; that's right: it isn't a Carrying Handle. It's a Lid Latch. :rolleyes:

    And finally:

    12.1 Inch multi-touch Capable Resistive Touch Screen

    I'll stick with Toughbooks. :)
     
  13. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    MMMhmmmm... an i7 dual-core with no fan? We'll see how many lawsuits they're served from people getting their legs cooked by that little toaster oven...

    mnem
    "I smell BACON! There's only one thing that smells like bacon, and that's BACON!!! Where's it coming from... THAT NOTEBOOK!!! What's it say? I CAN'T READ!!!"
     
  14. adamwest436

    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    Way too many sharp edges on that. @ least you can use your ToughBook in a less than lethal strike "intent". Grey or not it's still not silver :)
     
  15. Azrial

    Azrial Notebook Deity

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    Like I tell folks on the gun groups all the time, the features of a upstart competitor's new model to a proved standard may be nice, but I will wait to see how it stands up in the field from a 100,000 plus users before I will risk carrying it in harms way.
     
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    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    Kinda like that dell vs toughbook test on youtube where the dell had a hard drive crash and won but the toughbook got D/Q just for the screen crack?
     
  17. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Ummm... GETAC is hardly an upstart... they're a real live Defense Contractor, started in the '80s by GE. Hence the name - GE TACtical Electronics.

    This of course doesn't mean they know how to make a laptop; it just means they know how to produce to Mil-Spec and price stuff so high you get a nosebleed just looking at the option sheet...

    mnem
    Getac IS Fnord.
     
  18. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    "GE....We bring good things to life." :)

    At 10,000 Rounds Per Minute! :eek: :cool:

     
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    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    GE is a strange beast... they've received hundreds of awards for spearheading Eco-friendly manufacturing and human-friendly business practices... yet they are one of the world's largest manufacturers of war material.

    I don't know where the check and balances are held; but I'm certain their leaders will each have a long and interesting debriefing at the Pearly Gates when their times come...

    mnem
    Happily ever after, and after, again...
     
  20. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    GE is also leading the Band Wagon on Electronic Medical Records. :mad:
    Saint Peter: “Mr Jeffrey R. Immelt; let me look at your records here.” :wideeyed:

    “Hmmm: :frown: ; :no: better wait over there in that handbasket.”


    Immelt: “But..but... but.....” :eek2: :swoon:
     
  21. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    And?

    The real argument over EMRS is based on a lie. Those who oppose it most strenuously (and spend the most lobbying against it) are the Medical Insurance companies and Big Pharma; the AMA has been arguing FOR EMRS for almost 20 years.

    Why? Oh, my... what would they do if there were a single pool of readily available EMPIRICAL medical data for researchers and litigants to draw upon that could easily be used to refute the arguments against literally hundreds of treatment the Insurance companies have banded together to label as "experimental" and "unproven", even though many are widely accepted standard courses of treatment outside the US?

    What if there were a single system of medical recordkeeping, available to research through and weed out incompetent or careless Physicians instead of a kludge of literally DOZENS of systems, each fighting for dominance in its area of expertise and locality, which fact has been taken advantage of by both those Physicians (to stay in practice) AND those same Insurance Companies (to keep the "unavoidable" cost of Malpractice Insurance high) AND Big Pharma (Who doesn't want the same pool of data available as proof of damage caused by THEIR products) to Doctors WHEN THEY NEED IT?!?

    Oh dear... what WOULD we do if Aunt Esther's heart condition and all her medical history was available to the ER doctor when the ambulance rolled in so they would know which drugs she was already using?

    I'm sure you've read a dozen different paranoid threads about the evils of this project; there sure are enough to go around. But remember to follow the money when you see this rhetoric; you'll find that the same people who are telling you how your medical records are going to be used against you by the Insurance Companies ARE the Insurance Companies; and they're the same people who are lobbying to ensure that the programs get stalled every step of the way, and that the final product is always so full of crap as to be nearly USELESS. BECAUSE THEY WANT IT THAT WAY.

    The LAST Thing they want is a Medical Recordkeeping System that ACTUALLY WORKS; they would soon find themselves OUT OF BUSINESS. How many lives might be saved as a result is not relevant.

    mnem
    Stirring counterclockwise now...
     
  22. Doobi

    Doobi ToughBook DeityInTraining

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    Well Said Dragon! And you SHOULD know because we all know the age of Dragons :) wisdom comes with age!

    I get so sick and tired of people fighting causes that would actually help us for the mere sake of it wasn't their idea or it would hit their pocketbook.