Strongest WI-FI for CF-29 (internal)??

I'm looking for the best internal WI-FI that the CF-29 supports.

For my uses, I mostly use a USB Alfa 1000mW Adapter
h**p://www.amazon.com/Alfa-Wireless-Original-9dBi-Strongest/dp/B001O9X9EU

Whats your suggestions?

 

Uh, you ask about an "internal" WiFi, but point to an e xternal USB unit?!?

Nevertheless. I believe the concensus for an internal card is the EnGenius EMP-8602 PLUS-S 600mW unit.

 

Yeah... You want the Engenous card above....

 

Right!
Since most of the time the internal WiFi I use is underpowered.
The reason for the link is to show what I use, and what I would like to get close to with an internal solution..
I wonder how these are:

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Do you need to like set up a cantenna to the moon?

What are your ultimate needs... Perhaps we could be more help then.

 

I do wireless "auditing" for my clients, mostly Businesses and Local Law Enforcement.

I show them How secure their networks are an and what range they can be detected, and if they are using WEP, how quick and easy it is to get past.

Maybe a little "wardriving"

 

Generally speaking, your choices above are not for laptop usage, but for desktop-type router applications.

Moreover, the Alfa card utilizes an MMCX connector and the connector for a CF-29 is a U.Fl

Also, please learn the proper procedure for including URLs in your posts (see my examples above).

 

+1 on the enGenius card, works great with NetStumbler.

 

In that case, you may be going in the wrong direction:

"What is Receive Sensitivity?"
...
"Receive sensitivity indicates how faint an RF signal can be successfully received by the receiver. The lower the power level that the receiver can successfully process, the better the receive sensitivity.

In Wi-Fi equipment, receive sensitivity is generally stated as a function of network speed. Vendors will usually specify their receive sensitivity at one or more of the 11 Mbps, 5.5 Mbps, 2 Mbps or 1 Mbps data rates. For any given receiver, the higher the data rate, the less sensitive will be the receiver because more power is required at the receiver to support the higher data rate." ( emphasis added)...
Receive Sensitivity: A Practical Explanation

No real "need" for "More Power!" (-Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor) here, as once you have determined the radius of their transmit power there in no real need to try accessing their system from a distance, is there?

The main consideration for "wardriving" is the antenna setup and its dB rating.

 

Oh, I got the antenna... trust me on that..
Cantenna, mag mounted omni's and modded DirectTV dishes..

 

Then I'd say you want a medium power card of you want to show your customers "Real World" experiences.... Not everyone who wardrives or hacks into hotspots has a 1000mW wifi card! Whooeeeee....

I'd say the Engenous would be perfect for what you want. Then you could run a U.Fl ro SMA bulkhead out the side...

 

Well, if I wanted to show my clients ""Real World" I wouldn't be using a Toughbook...

What's wrong with you people!?
We gotta give these mortals something to aspire to!!!!

 

Actually, in the "Real World of one of your Clients" ( Local Law Enforcement) Panasonic Toughbook IS "the norm."

 

I sit corrected......



Hear, hear....

 

Hi,

I have just installed this into my cf 28 and it works. i had to put it in place of the lan card tho as it was a bit a bit too big to go in place of the modem. not sure what the 29 set up is.


SGigaByte AirCruiser N300 GN-WI30N-RH WLAN 802.11n draft MiniPCI Wifi Module - Laptop Internal Ralink RT2860 Chipset Wireless Adapter OxfordTEC.co.uk

 

How many mW's is the OEM wi-fi on the CF-29? Is there a 1000mW minipc card with a/b/g and u.fl for the CF-29?

 

You planning to wear an anti-radiation suit while operating this thing???

 

Very true TopCop! Im assuming the ENGENIUS WIRELESS MINIPCI EMP-8602 PLUS-S at 600mW is much stronger than OEM??

 

I find it very difficult to believe that local law enforcement would be paying you for intrusion testing.

The only reason for more power would be to attempt to access the target system from farther away, something that would be completely unnecessary if they were an actual "client." All the power and high gain antennas in the world will not aid in testing the security of the wireless network.

Now this might be seen as necessary if your true intent was say, trying to remain at a safer distance while doing an illicit system penetration...

My suggestion would be to find somewhere to play were folks lives are not on the line.

One nice thing about the more power and large outside mounted antennas, it will make it a lot easier for them to find you! Then there are those pesky laws in most states that prohibit interference with police communications. They were usually written to deter willful and malicious interference with the two-way radio systems, but should be written broadly enough to apply here!

Now, I am honestly not sure what the laws on this are around Saginaw, Michigan... However, I think that this apples:

750.507b Telegraph and telephone companies; interference, obstruction.
Sec. 507b.
Any unauthorized person who shall wilfully prevent, interfere, obstruct, or impede a public safety radio communication shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.


Now I am no lawyer, but as a former Prosecutor I would think that one would want to have that contract signed by the LE "Client" handy when standing before a Judge...

 

I don't know what the EXACT number is... But most OEM cards are in the 75mW to 150mW range..... So yes... This is a big step up.

I used to compare the Engenous 600mW against Intel BG and ABG cards.... I get roughly 55% better reception against the BG card and 30% better over the ABG...

These are "Seat of the pants" measurements using NetStumbler....

 

Thanks Tough! Just a ballpark estimate of wattage was what I was looking for, just to see what kinda boost in signal strength was being upgraded.

 

"I find it very difficult to believe that local law enforcement would be paying you for intrusion testing. "

Well, they write the checks!!
Some of my clients are law enforcement (for Network Security, which includes pentesting, and computer forensic work) health system companies and attorneys.

The people I am auditing an pentesting, are the ones who own the network.

Some of my clients are rural and want to link two or more locations via Wi-Fi with high power antenna.

Some of my clients, have had past or current I.T. people who are/were lazy or incompetent, which is where the pentesting comes in.

I get hired to find the holes or weaknesses, then close them.

 

What software utility will tell me the output setting of my Engenius 600mW? I just want to verify that it is at 600mw. I tried the latest Atheros drivers with the power adjustment setting, but it only shows the options to 100mw. I am currently using the Engenius 600mw driver.

Thanks
Shawn

 

Fascinating... And yet in over 20 years in the business I have never heard of a law enforcement agency paying a third party to attempt this... really odd.

I guess that none of the law enforcement IT support staff up there in Michigan can handle something as simple as cloaking the SSID and then setting up WPA2-Enterprise!

Hard to believe that something so elementary could be a business, kind of like a teeth brushing service.

 

Hell, a local PD uses our company to do some of its work they would normally send to the State Police LAB.

It has to do with the 18 month backlog...

They can either wait 1 1/2 years for something or get results in a few days.

 

Get and run this install app from the manufacturer's wepage. If you install the drivers and the included application you will be able to set the card at three different levels. I saw no difference (in NetStumbler, and usage) between the application's highest setting's and the performance when Windows managed my connection. For my usage I prefer the Windows wireless management interface. So I chose to uninstall the 3rd party app. Some others prefer the provided app, and it does provide a few more features.

EDIT
The above software will not give you a wattage setting but has more like a low, medium, and high setting.

 

wow. You must spend a lot of time in court.

 

I only go as needed, and it hasn't happened yet, had to sign a few papers though...

 

Now you have me curious! What kind of papers?

How do they maintain the chain up there, or is MI LE not concerned with that, I mean you being a third party?