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    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Toughbook, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    PC-BSD or PCBSD, is a Unix-like, desktop-oriented operating system built upon the most recent releases of FreeBSD. It aims to be easy to install by using a graphical installation program, and easy and ready-to-use immediately by providing KDE SC, LXDE, Xfce, and MATE [1] as the desktop environment. It provides official binary Nvidia and Intel drivers for hardware acceleration and an optional 3D desktop interface through KWin, and Wine is ready-to-use in running Microsoft Windows software. PC-BSD is able to run Linux software, [2] in addition to FreeBSD ports, and it has its own package management system that allows users to graphically install pre-built software packages from a single downloaded executable file, which is unique for BSD operating systems.

    TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD) is a free operating system , which on the Unix derivative FreeBSD based and this extended functional. On the one hand the extensions are in use as a PC with graphical desktop environments aligned. On the other hand other functions are also provided for use as a server. The project has the goal of BSD to make for ease of use and the normal use usable. The rich functionality of FreeBSD are also on the command line to be operated beyond. The project is at the company iXsystems settled.

    End August 2016 were iXsystems announced that the two previously separate server and desktop configurations of PC-BSD will in future operate under the name TrueOS. [2]

    Comparing BSD and Linux
    So what is really the difference between, say, Debian Linux and FreeBSD? For the average user, the difference is surprisingly small: Both are UNIX® like operating systems. Both are developed by non-commercial projects (this does not apply to many other Linux distributions, of course). In the following section, we will look at BSD and compare it to Linux. The description applies most closely to FreeBSD, which accounts for an estimated 80% of the BSD installations, but the differences from NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD are small.
     
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  2. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    https://distrowatch.com/
    the third OS down on the list ... i'll bet you know how i would pronounce it .
    :D :rolleyes:

    this website will prove the start of an *electronic paper chase* about/of many OSes .
    a reference review of all (or at least many) the releases of the permutations of unix/posix/linux based versions .

    i tried bsd about three years ago ... as they say ;"not ready for prime time" .
    perhaps it has come the distance that separated it from the more popular *free* OSes .
    getting basic stuff to work (say a printer) was the biggest deal breaker for many would be users .
    this aint windows or linux derivatives .

    @Shawn ...
    do you have a link for the article you grabbed the info from ?

    perhaps it would be a good idea to start a new topic related to bsd (et al) out front ?
    it would be interesting to find out how it actually fares on a host of several CF machines .
    the small palm-held machines that are now becoming *affordable* on the used market are a little shy on horsepower and would benefit from a lightweight OS .
     
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  3. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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  4. Kent T

    Kent T Notebook Virtuoso

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    TrueOS is working very well for me, I met two of the development team earlier in the week, at the KnoxBUG meeting. I downloaded the ISO 3 days ago, it is thus far stable and reliable, supports many Toughbooks well (touchscreen support is not yet) and has been enjoyable to use. I also love having a nearby user group and interesting speakers which keep me informed on how to learn it's functionality. And the ZFS self healing file system is a major reason why I have been experimenting with TrueOS. The several levels of backup redundancy and not having to upgrade or update a OS in use are also features I like.
     
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    Micnorian14 Newbie

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    Just a heads up for anyone trying Win10 on their CF30 and also have an SSD installed

    I was getting terrible disk performance (blaming it on the archaic SATA1 bus) until I found this M$ post about Message Signaled Interrupt I tried it and lo-and-behold I actually got instant results for a change! Follow the steps on this forum if you are using an SSD! https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083595
    The system no longer freezes from max disk usage, which btw I've seen reach 20mb reads/15mb writes at the same time!!!

    I put Win10x64 on my CF30mk2 and it runs better than Win7! There is a lot of crap you have to disable but the community has come together and made bat files that take care of all that instantly meow.
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    I don't use win10, but this is good info.
    rep points given!
     
  7. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    ditto ...

    i may be open to trying W10 ... again ... i simply did not like the "junk" and poor performance .
    i never had the freeze issues ... perhaps with the newer and *non-industrial* motherboards , W7 *knows* to shift gears .
     
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    ECC's Newbie

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    New to the forum here but have a CF-30 of my own that I adore. Just bought a new battery for it and am currently charging it up now. I have a lot of programming to do for my shop so I wanted to be sure to have a full charge going into it. Can anyone tell me the average hours a new battery with a full charge should give me? I'll be running minimal programs while using it to do my register software programming and such, lowered screen brightness, bluetooth off (don't use that stuff anyway) etc. Managed to pick this one up with a crap battery for 175 off of EBay. Long story but it took three days of work and 8 techs later to get the OS to communicate with the Microsoft servers to do the updates because the seller reinstalled the OS himself. So I ended up with a refund of 75 off the 250 price I originally paid. Picked up the battery amazingly for around 50. Love the touchscreen on this too.

    Once all my programming is done this will be used in my shop for customers to use as well. So I wanted to make sure I got a laptop with some serious oomph. One that wouldn't get hurt if someone knocked it down or spilled something around it. That and if someone pisses me off I can hit them over the head with it and it won't hurt the laptop lol ;)
     
  9. safn1949

    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    Depends,new aftermarket battery maybe 2 hours. New Panasonic battery 6 hours, I have a 30 with a 90% factory battery that will run 6+ hours per charge. It has been recalibrated along with all of my Panny battery's. The update problem is simple, there are 6 updates that need to be downloaded and installed separately, that's Microsofts garbage, no fault of the seller.

    Take the junk Panasonic battery and tun the recalibration on it,then write the hours on it,you might be suprised.
     
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    ECC's Newbie

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    Awesome thanks! I made sure to get a Panasonic battery for it. I read the reviews on the aftermarket junk lol. Well the seller told me he forgot to do the updates before sending out the laptop so it really was an issue that could have been dealt with by him before it was sent to me so it really was down to his not doing it and finding the issue first. Once I get this new battery charged up I'll see what I can do with the calibration on the old one. Would be nice if it would hold any sort of charge. It won't hold one at all now. When I got the laptop it held about an hour charge and that was it. Though granted I was aware that it would need a new battery when I purchased it. I am actually extremely happy with how it works now. I wish I had bought one before the last few laptops I got and killed from heavy use lol
     
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    kode-niner Notebook Consultant

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    I have 6 CF-30 batteries and a car charger to get through a week. Two aren't genuine and last between 2 and 3 hours each. One of those two is actually a counterfeit Panasonic CF-VZSU46 that appeared to be brand new with fake charge capacity numbers but lasts less than 3 hours. I try not to use those crappy batteries except when I run out of options.

    Of the remaining 4, all are genuine, have between 70 and 85% maximum charge left and last between 4 and 7 hours each depending on use. I reckon that if I ever get a brand new battery I might be able to get up to 8 hours.

    I run Linux that I tweaked to use as little power as possible.
     
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    Do you have the media bay second battery?
     
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    ECC's Newbie

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    Awesome, good to know! I actually have not replaced the second battery on it. But since I'm using the computer in the shop and will be using it plugged in while stationary, I have not worried about replacing the second battery yet.
     
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    kode-niner Notebook Consultant

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    I don't. Not sure if it's worth it?
     
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    It will give you an hour more. Maybe longer depending upon conditions..
     
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    Anyone have any information on a mitsubishi cf 30?
     
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    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    Need the full model number please.
     
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    Cf-30f3sazam
     
  19. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    This is what it had when it left the factory. This is a MK2
    Model Number:
    CF-30F3SAZAM
    Status: DISCONTINUED
    MSRP: $3,499
    Description: WinXP (Vista COA), Intel Core 2 Duo L7500 1.60GHz (Centrino), 13.3" XGA Non Touch, 80GB, 1GB, Intel 802.11a/b/g, TPM1.2, Bluetooth, No Drive
     
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    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    I'm guessing it is just plain CF-30 that was used by them, nothing special and as a non-touch model it's not worth a lot.
     
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    Any idea at all? I'm clueless when it comes to toughbooks.
     
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    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Like "safn1949" said it's nothing special. IF it was a touch screen you would have a better chance of selling it. The last MK2 I got I only paid $65.00 shipped and it had a touch, hdd/caddy and battery.
     
  23. SHEEPMAN!

    SHEEPMAN! Freelance

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    In my humble opinion this thread should be closed.

    Posters will get more views if they identify their specific problem/query.
     
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    Very good idea Jeff. From here on please start a new thread.
     
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    lortech Notebook Consultant

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    heeelp..I have been working for hours! trying to find the right driver, the right windows 10 version ..that will install on a cf-30 make. It has windows 1803 build 17134.112. I tried several nic drivers...no luck!! I need this laptop going its my work laptop!
     
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