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    To the dark side

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Alecgold, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, long story short: I'll probably go to the other side again. The dark side, where Apples dominate the world. :)

    At this moment I'm still self-employed, but I got an offer to work as staff at a research department at an old university overhere. It's a good offer with 36hour work weeks, excellent package with insurance, daycare, training & formal education and to top it off, a high salary. It will be hard working, but I now have 60-80 hour weeks for at least 6 months a year as well.
    Working there I wouldn't need (or be allowed) to use my own equipment anymore. And you never guess, but they don't use Panasonic at the staff! Odd people. I will be using a lot of Apple (and some windows). So I will have my CF-19 mk7, old mk5 remains, car-dock, desktop-dock, extra caddy with 128Gb SSD, 3-wall chargers, 2 car chargers and lots of other stuff, but I don't know what to do with it. I would like to keep it, but I know I will be using it hardly anymore. If I sell it, I might use the money to improve my roof, also not unimportant.

    But the saddest thing is that I will be visiting this place a lot less. First the job will keep me busy, but they have also warned me for a fairly tight firewall and a strict internet policy.
    What would you guys do? Sell or keep?
     
  2. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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  3. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    What would I do....I would keep the best CF-19, spare battery and charger then sell the rest. This way you will at least have one to fall back on if some thing happens. Good luck on the new job..sounds like a good job.
     
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    That's really bad :)
    Use proxy or do not agree :))

    And yes, sell that hardware if you can't use it for a long time. You will buy MK8+ later :)
     
  5. UNCNDL1

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    Long before my ToughBook addiction, I routinely hackintoshed Dell Mini 9's and 10's...very doable for those that can follow directions. I have a MacMini that was bought used to make the install usb's for that project that now sits in storage. I also have a MacBookAir that was a gift. It sits in the living room in Rhode Island and is used by my wife when her first generation iPad that is still going strong has a hiccup. I would cut down and sell what you know you can always replace, and keep your most favorite Panasonic ToughBook. You'll be at home sometimes ( I hope ) and can use your Panasonic then. I travel back and forth from NJ and RI and use Linux, Windows, and Apple. I see no reason why you can not do likewise. Congratulations on the new fork in the road!
     
  6. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Congratulations on the new job! Keep it all unless you know you won't use it! You said high salary... So use you stuff until it drives you crazy... Then donate it to someone when you upgrade!
     
  7. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    I would get rid what I don't think I would need. I would keep one fully working toughbook.
     
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    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    I would keep it unless you want to give it to me.

    as a former Apple fangirl I offer you my condolences on having to deal with the stuff. but hopefully you can come back to the land of real laptops. :)
     
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  9. Apollo13

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    It isn't every day you see someone with 666 posts mention they're going to the dark side. I'd commiserate, but is it really a coincidence?

    I've always tended toward keeping hardware if it's reliable and I have space, but for me it's usually sufficiently obsolete by the time it's replaced that it wouldn't fetch much money anyway. So perhaps the better consideration would be whether they'd fit a niche that none of your other hardware does. If they do, keep 'em, if not, might as well sell them.
     
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  10. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    Hahaha, that is indeed a coincidence. I hadn't noticed. But a nice touch indeed.

    @hackintosh. I'm not allowed to bring in my own stuff. They want their work done in their time at their equipment and it's going to be their IP. Not that I'm generating any IP, but they had some bad experience I guess.

    I had been using Apple stuff for a long time, before I knew Panasonics Toughbooks. And as long as you don't want to do something the system doesn't want you to do, you're mostly good with OS-X. But *(&^% if you want to do something the system doesn't like. And I think the hardware is way to fragile. Certainly when compared with a Toughbook.
     
  11. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    yeppers ...
    keep the basic equipment and get rid of the rest , but ... do not do this until the (ahem) *honeymoon* with the new job has run it's course .
    one cannot say with any degree of accuracy whether or not a job (like a new boyfriend or girlfriend) will "pan out" .
    :wink:
     
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  12. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    The hackintosh is more for fun on your part. A spare time challenge...You must be at least a little interested in a Mac OS on a CF19. Sometimes we don't need a "good" reason.. I have thought about a Mac OS on a CF30 for a long time..No real reason..Just because.
     
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  13. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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  14. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    @CWB32, good advice! thanks, there is one big drawback on this job: once I go, I can't go back. I sign several relations & confidential agreements and getting back is pretty much impossible. But never the less it is wise to keep you're equipment until you're certain.

    @shawn, I have been eyeing several, hackingtosh projects in the past. I like them because they break the rules, are non-conformist and make things happen where you would thing: how did they do it. But they usually take copious amounts of time. And time is scarce. but perhaps with the better working hours, I get a life beside work AND beside family man :)
     
  15. Shawn

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    Sounds like becoming a politician.. :eek:

    Great minds do think alike.:thumbsup:
     
  16. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    " once I go, I can't go back. I sign several relations & confidential agreements and getting back is pretty much impossible"

    i am a little cornfuzzled on/about this ...
    if the university has all their own equipment/standards that they want/require you to use ...
    what has this got to do with your own personal equipment (other than not hooking it up to their system) ?
    the way it "reads" to me is that they are trying to impose unrealistic (and possibly illegal/unconstitutional) demands upon you .

    perhaps i am not quite understanding something here ?
     
  17. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    nah, most likely I'm not completely clear.
    What they want is to make you their loyal slave :wub: Joking.
    What they don't want is you to learn a lot, get to know their clients and run off with their IP and clients-list. So they make you sign documents that you're not going to do the same work and/or not going to approach their clients when you end your job and/or use any knowledge that you acquired while working their. Problem for them is that it is really hard to make it stand up in court. Problem for me is that I don't want to go to court (cost/chance of loosing/needing lawyers). So once I sign this deal, I'm in it.
    So the moment I sign, the chance that I ever use my own equipment professionally are slim.
     
  18. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Alex is in the Netherlands........The rules and way of doing things are very different in a far away land...
     
  19. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    hmmm ...
    besides the "non-disclosure" there is a "non-competition" requirement imposed by some outfits ...
    but to extend this to your personally owned equipment that you would not or never bring under their aegis is kind of unreasonable .

    i have to run off for a bit ... i'll be back ,
    this is interesting .
     
  20. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    having read shawn's post , it helps explain things a little bit .
    rules are different wherever on goes ... and there may be some things "lost in the translation" (as it were for lack of better terms) .
     
  21. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    Both true. It's just like a lot of mechanics have their own tools in the USA. Overhere mechanics use the tools of the company they work for.
    Lost in translation is also a part of it, it's a legal thing and hard for me to explain it in my own language, but to explain it in English is a lot more difficult.
    Bottom line is: when I sign, I'm in and most likely for a long time.
     
  22. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    heh ... kinda like when i signed my name on the line , was sworn in and uncle sam owned me for several years .
    :laugh:

    but still ...
    are you saying that once you "sign on the line" , you cannot have , posses , own or in any shape , form and/or fashion use or have a "personally owned" computer in your possession ?
    an example :
    you cannot go home at the end of the day and use a computer that you have bought or (in other words) "personally own" for your own "personal use" that is not work related in any manner .
     
  23. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    hahaha, no, I can have all the equipment I want, at home. But I can't use it for business. I could use it to make a face on the moon, launch a rocket to Jupiter, dig a pool in my tiny backyard, but I can't use it for business :D
     
  24. Shawn

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    I think what Alex was saying is that his CF19 was bought and used almost exclusively for his WORK. Now that his work is changing, he does not see a NEED for the CF19. All of his WORK must be done AT work on the university equipment..

    But lack of NEED has never stopped any of us..
    I think his CF19 will just go from being a TOOL to being a TOY...Nothing wrong with that..
     
  25. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    That one! thanks Shawn.
     
  26. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    ahhh ... now things are clearing up .

    yeah , unless you are strapped for that folding green stuff (or whatever color is used over that way) or need to "thin out" your "toys" , i would keep what you absolutely need and sell the rest .
    sometimes we need a reason (aka : push) to get us to clean out the bone-pile once in a while ...
    i know i sure do .
     
  27. Shawn

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    Some of us just keep mailing the bone pile to each other...
     
  28. CWB32

    CWB32 Need parts for my flying saucer.

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    :laugh:
    how true .
     
  29. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    hahaha, did you find good use of the LEDs and antennae? Or are they on the to-do-list?
     
  30. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    To do list.....

    thanks
     
  31. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    It seams that list gets longer every day....yes :D