I'm going to wipe/reload my toughbook tomorrow win ONLY win 7!! OMG I CAN'T WAIT!!!
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Damn Rob, I would hate to see what happens to you at a more enjoyable moment in your life.
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What’s really weird, in regards to the sound and hotkey drivers is this:
1) Sound doesn’t work in Windows 7 because you hit the hotkey “mute” button
2) Reboot into XP and unmute it using the hotkey
3) Reboot back into Win 7 and then the sound works.
4) As soon as you hit the mute button again it messes up and you have to repeat the previous steps...
The hotkey is a hardware function, not a software function… Whatever you do on XP affects what goes on in Win 7 even though they are in no way connected. -
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Rob check out my post in Win 7 issues + Toughbook model thread. I think it is related to the CF-30 MK1. because that is the same problem I had on my CF-19 MK2 model.
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Good work gents... I now have a calibrated Touchscreen..... Let me check the EXACT drivers I downloaded and will edit this post.
Again.... Double Grog all around!
EDIT: It look like I downloaded the driver for a CF-30(K/L) MK3 and make sure that Windows 7 is the OS selected. I loaded the driver first... Then the HKey Settings and then the HKey Appendix drivers.
As far as the sound... I'm pretty sure that I used the regular MK1 drivers that ordinarily would go with the machine. I just installed them as an Admin... And if the box came up that said something like; "It installed but did not installed correctly... Do you want to install correctly?".... I went ahead and did it.
Now.... What I need to do is to go ahead and order another SATA drive as I have already installed all the 100GB of music onto this laptop so that I could edit out all the crap and use my AudioGrabber and "Tag and Rename" to edit all my collection so I can FINALLY make a good, true and correct collection of everything I want to keep.
So... Next time I have a little Paypal balance... I'll order a 200GB SATA drive to play around with loading W7 so that we can verify every step to make a sticky.... At the end... I'll zero out the hard drive and stick it into the SATA enclosure so I can use it for one of my back-ups.... (I have MANY!)
I must agree with a prior poster somewhere in the threads here somewhere that the USB back-up hard drives really aren't worth risking your data. I had a master copy of all my music that I copied off my "F" drive... When I tried to copy it over to my CF-30 I kept getting errors. After routing everything through my Gigabit switch in the shop... I was able to copy all my collection in about 50 minutes.... Then it took about 5 hours of preliminary editing to delete doubles... Correct inaccuracies, grab album, er, uh.. CD artwork, etc....
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What about the hotkey drivers?? What Toughbook 2010 and I have figured out is that it doesn't have anything to do with the sound drivers! The sound drivers work! Granted! What we found is that if you boot into XP with working drivers (Obviously) and then unmute it via hotkey and then boot into Win7, the sound will work. If you use the the hotkey in Win7 to mute it, or mearly change the volume, then you need to boot BACK INTO XP to make it work again...(Then you boot back into Win7 afterwords...).
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Rob the hotkey mute function is tied to the hotkey appendix driver which is in turn tied in to the video driver (to display the blue thingy on screen). I had the same problem with the mute button (FN one) it would mute and I would have to load the appendix driver to get it to unmute. I did not have it installed because of its high cpu usage. Once I figured using the correct video driver the cpu usage was normal, the mute button worked and the blue icon displayed.
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EXACTLY... You MUST install ALL the hotkey drivers! I started with the regular driver, installed via device manager... Then Hkey settings and then HKey appendix and mine all works fine.
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Scratch that! I got EVERYTHING working! YAHOO!!
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I have updated ALL of the working drivers HERE: http://toughbooktalk.com/public_downloads/index.php?dir=CF-30 Windows 7 Drivers/
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I have found that while the touchscreen now works... It must be calibrated every time I reboot. Anyone have a work-around for this?
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I haven't had a problem with this Rick...
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Rob and I talked about this, mine was doing the same thing Now that i reinstalled windows 7. I did how ever quickly stop the touch screen install as I knew it was going to fail. I had my windows 7 so jack up from working with the touch screen that i need to reload windows. The first time I had it working i didn't have this problem. Rob has let his sit for 5 to 10 min on the install. So this might be the problem. I was going to work on it but I have been swamped and have not had time to look into the problem. Maybe next week
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Frakin, bakin, makin, varmin! damnit! It's doing it to me now! GAH!
Won't stay calibrated...
~Rob, smoking hookah, & drinking a gin gimlet thinking about his next method of attack~ -
So get this. I went through the registry and searched for "calwin" and I found a lot of crap from old driver installations... I deleted them and now it's working again... The one I didn't delete was the one from the WIN2K folder under program files.
REMEMBER, IF YOU ARE A NEWB, don't mess with regedit!
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When you guys have a problem with a driver once you install it, are you getting a pop up window that says this program did not install properly, would you like to have Windows try reinstalling it? If so, and you should get this pop up, say yes and follow the prompts. It's Windows performing the Compatibility Mode automatically for you.
I remember on my MK2 way back when W7 RC came out I would see this alot. Then it would work. Also, after you have extracted the file to the Util2 folder I went and hit properties in each file on that driver package and change everyone I could to Vista SP2. I mean every file in the folder I would do this with, the one's that would allow it. My reasoning was that if you change some of the files to run in Vista Mode I better have them all do it or it would get confused. Just like I just got by typing this -
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good job
I will try that in a day to two.
thanks
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I've been installing Win7Pro on my CF-30 mk1 all day... you guys have been an immense help. One thing that improved my situation was upgrading to the 'Vista level' BIOS 1.10. This made the touchscreen in Win7 go from generic in nature to full featured pen input device, including some Win7 gadgets. While I still can't get the hotkey popups to display on the screen, the functions are working - might be a coincidence, but before I upgraded the BIOS I only had brightness hotkeys working.
Thanks,
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"EXACTLY... You MUST install ALL the hotkey drivers! I started with the regular driver, installed via device manager... Then Hkey settings and then HKey appendix and mine all works fine." -
There is one more thing that we need to fix... On XP when I held the control button down and touched the screen it right clicked... How can we fix this?
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Then I need the winning Powerball tickets.... while you are at it!
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I just watched a guy yesterday scratch a $500 winner at the local corner market.... Come to think of it... I haven't checked my numbers.... I MAY be a millionaire!
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When I did that, the hotkey app raced out of control, heating my laptop up like a toaster. I uninstalled the app, hotkeys still work, they just don't do the video overlay in the blue box. I have yet to get the blue box working regardless of hotkey drivers/app.
On a side note, I can't get the touchscreen calibration to persist after a reboot as well.
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Rich,
Welcome to the forum!
Join the club.... But we WILL get it figured out!
The hotkey app sounds weird. What is the blue box you are talking about?
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Rick, when you hit any of the hotkeys it makes the blue little box... YA KNOW!
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That's what I thought... But wasn't sure.... I still don't see the Hotkey driver running out of control causing an overheat....
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this is for a cf-19 MK2 but it might be related. I also had the hotkey app running at 90-100 percent in task manager, so I could see it maybe overheating a toughbook. see my posts here and here
I finally solved this by installing the right video driver. It was a vista panasonic driver ,but I had to upgrade to the latest generic intel driver and then downgrade to the panasonic vista for everything to work (hotkeys, blue icon, no runaway hotkey app in task manager).
oh and Rick the right click in windows 7 works by just holding the stylus down for a second or so and then a circle appears and you see the right click options. way better that clicking the icon in the task bar or ctrl option. try it out. -
Hey... I was just wondering if the BIOS revision makes a difference. I have been running XP Pro downgrade on my CF-30, MK1... I wonder if it makes a difference to do the BIOS "upgrade" so that Vista can be loaded before installing W7.
Does that make any sense to anyone? I guess I would need to flash the BIOS and start all over to check the validity of that... But I'm looking into anything that may make that work. (And keep my touchscreen stay calibrated.) -
I did my bios reflash 'after' my Win7 install, and Win7 installed new drivers and changed how the touchscreen operated on the next boot. The reason I suspected it would make a difference was that XP didnt recognize the touchscreen at all with the Vista BIOS installed.
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So you reflashed back to XP mode from Vista after your drivers wouldn't install properly?
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WELL I HAVE DONE IT! Touch screen is now working great and stays calibrated. the program installs completely and calibration works great.
All functions are working correctly
Whats weird is the the arrow on the touch screen in windows 7 turns into a star on the screen.
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No sir, the opposite. I reflashed from "XP 1.01" to "Vista 1.11" and that brought in the enhanced touchscreen support.
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I managed to get touchscreen calibration to persist after a reboot. I used "Tablet PC Settings" calibration in the Control Panel. This was done with Vista BIOS installed. When I was doing the calibration, it seemed to think my screen was about .5 inch smaller all around than it is. Very happy about it working now!
No luck trying to update the video driver. The CF-30 MK2 driver is for the 965 chipset, so that would not load. I tried the Vista driver for MK1, but I still could not get the OSD for hotkeys, and hotkeys appendix still created a race condition. -
Rich... That is what I was looking for. I think that is what I need to do... to flash to Vista... And THEN install W7.
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I don't think you need to reinstall. I installed w the XP BIOS, then flashed to Vista BIOS, and on the next reboot the touchscreen stuff was upgraded.
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Hmmm.... Mine did not... Everything EXCEPT the Touchscreen updated.... Well... Maybe a date later this week I can spend a day reinstalling and tweaking.
So... For the record....
On the CF-30, MK1.... Upgrade the BIOS to Vista and load the regular MK1 drivers for Vista.... Is this the winning formula? -
All you knuckle heads have jinxed me. My HotKey button works for everything, but I get no stinkin pop up anymore! Yes, I have it checked in the settings.
I remember on my MK2 this happened once and I could not fix it. Panny walked me thru some driver stuff. I will try to duplicate it and report back. I do know it was different than what they state how to do it. -
HOLD IT.... HOLD IT..... It ia ALWAYS fixable.....
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Okay, I got the new BIOS installed and it is working GREAT with the touchscreen... when you touch the screen it turns into a little dot just like my mothers CF-19 digitizer model does. Flicks are enabled and working as is the calibration through the calibration utility through the control panel!
The right click function is back too... Not via the control button but if you hold it down just like in tablet xp edition it acts as a right click...
Good Job Darrin! His drivers can be found HERE: http://toughbooktalk.com/public_downloads/index.php?dir=CF-30 Windows 7 Drivers - Darrin Gartrell/ -
See, if we all put our goofy heads together we can accomplish something...
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I'm glad I have been able to help here at NBR. There is tons of knowledge here and lots of great people and Friends
Did you look in device manger and see that now you have a unknown device after the bios update. That is the MISC. Panasonic driver. You install it just as the other unknown device to make the battery cal. work.
Did yours come up with the keyboard on the left side in the middle when you touch the screen?
I'm uploading the bluetooth file again and will send you a link
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Yeah... I need to redo mine... Every time I boot... I hear the little "error" du-dunk sound... I just need the time as it is likely to take me a few days to get everything loaded...
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I have tried several video drivers and still can't make hotkey appendix not have a race condition (use up the CPU) on my MK1. If I uninstall the video driver and uninstall all the hotkey parts, and start over, how can I get to a state where hotkeys work, hotkey appendix doesn't overload the machine, and the blue popups work?
Touchscreen calibration & bluetooth on Windows 7 Ultimate on CF-30
Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Rob, May 20, 2009.