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    Toughbook Android tablet! I NEED ONE NOW!!!!!!

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Rob, Jun 16, 2011.

  1. Rob

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    The new tablet will be on display at the Panasonic booth at the InfoComm conference in Orlando Florida this week.
     
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    I am hoping it has the Wacom capacitive/digitizer screen and not the N-Trig. Then it will be a Charlie Sheen "winner".
     
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    I like seeing Toughbooks and Android combined, but I'd be more interested in Panasonic making a smaller and more phone-like Toughbook device, like an Android-successor to the CF-P2. Still, very interesting, and I'll be sure to read some reviews on this one.
     
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    Try android out on your toughbook now. Android-x86 - Porting Android to x86

    I have tried it on on my cf-t5 and cf-29 live. Waiting on a harddrive I have on order so I can do the full install. I had touchscreen problems on live though.
     
  7. Rob

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    I'm trying 2.2 on a CF-30CAQAZBM right now.

    I'll let you know how it goes :)
     
  8. Rob

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    Hmmm, Android 2.2 is working great (this COULD BE MY NEXT CARPUTER SYSTEM!!!), but no touchy :(

    EDIT: it goes to sleep after 1 minute and never comes out of sleep :(
     
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    I am thinking this will be an Intel Atom based tablet. Panasonic should be able to help create decent battery life. It might be based on the OpenPeak 10 design. Hoping it has the capacitive/active digitizer like the C1. I wonder if it will run MeeGo also.
     
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    Update: I've successfully loaded Droid 2.2 on a CF-19 MK1 digitizer (CDBAXVM) and the touch works just great with the digi pen!!!

    We may have a solution for a new carputer.... :D
     
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    I bet a lot of people would like to throw a Honeycomb tablet against a brick wall.....over and over again. Not sure there's a big enterprise or public sector market for Android tablets, but the consumer tablets have flopped big time. If I'm guessing that Panasonic committed to this tablet before it became apparent that consumers were indifferent. there is genuine demand from the public sector and large enterprises, I'm sure that even Apple would be willing to partner up with Panasonic. After all, Steve Jobs wouldn't deny iOS to first responders and military personnel. But I just don't see the market. Yet.
     
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    Linuxwannabe, that's because all these tablets are just giant phones... They can't do anything more than an iPhone or an Android phone can do...
     
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    Ericcson will be supplying the mobile broadband cards for future toughbook products (F5521gw) and that supports Windows, Linux, Android, MeeGo and Google Chrome. It works with Intel's Anti-Theft PC protection technology and I'm betting that you can install multiple OS's on the new Panasonic Android Tablet with ease. If it can also do Windows 7 or 8 then I think they'll make that available. Just an educated guess.
     
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    why would you want android on your laptop, its simplistic and meant for tablets?

    the tablet looks cool, ill probably buy it in 4 yrs when it drops in price though. i rather just spend a buck fifty on a cheapo and hope it doesnt break right now.
     
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    I'm excited and upset at the same time. Where's the TOUGHDROID phone?

    Totally agree with Rob - what we need are some smartphones with projection technology or biotechnology where we can artificially blow up the screensize. At that point tablets are basically pointless.
     
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    Last I tried 2.2 on my cf-t5 (1.06 duo) it was at work and touch wouldn't work. I thinking I had the dell ISO but wasn't sure, bandwidth is a problem at work so downloading a new ISO file was a problem. I tried it again last night in a virtual machine using virtual box. It loaded fine live and even touch worked using the generic ISO. I haven't tried it again on the cf-29 yet.

    The last time I read up on the android x86 Google group they were still working on a new android 3.0 x86 port. I am not sure how much longer it will be on that port.

    There is a chance of the GPS also working with Android. I bought two 10 inch android 2.2 tablets this time at work. I had a older one before that is called a zt-180. In Dubai you can pick them up for 150 for the new top of the line Chinese tablet 10 inch or just your basic 2.1, 7 inch tablet for around 75 bucks us. The latest two I got have a built in GPS that relies off of satellite not cell signal. Trying it out on top of the living quarters on the rig it took a minute to work, but after that keep up with my position.

    On playing video the 2.1 or 2.2 android tablets haven't had a problem playing 720p HD video.

    Also you can download android here. Android SDK | Android Developers
    This is the google developer site. It has the latest roms there like 3.0 and 3.1, but run only in a virtual machine. It's suppose to be development, it's all free.

    One other thing this may open up is the phone software on android being able to be hooked up to a internal card.

    Also the android x86 project can be dual booted. That is my plans for it later on.
     
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    Found a couple of more pics!
     

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    I still don't get it. If I don't need the capabilities of my laptop, I can do anything those tablet things do on my phone. What's the point of a third, intermediate device?
     
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    One of the benefits of this device over a phone is the adding the inking capabilities. Being able to take notes, collect signatures and the like is a great feature that most other non-Windows slates (except HTC Flyer) don't have. Being able to replace a pen and paper is a good benefit.
     
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    With what he just said, plus just the added benefit of a bigger screen would be worth it to me. I hate doing alot of things on my SmartPhone. My fingers are jusy way too big :D
    I hope they put a USB port or SD slot on it though.
     
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    I agree with you Toyo, I would like to see a SD card slot if anything.
     
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    Sweet, it's out, A few days ago the thinkpad android tablet was released too.
     
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    OPERATING SYSTEM

    Android™ Operating System

    POWER

    Full-shift battery life
    DC-IN

    DISPLAY

    10.1" XGA multi-touch display

    High-brightness, daylight-viewable screen

    Digitizer with active stylus

    CAMERAS

    Front webcam

    Rear documentation camera

    CONNECTIVITY

    Optional embedded 3G/4G mobile broadband connectivity

    Satellite-based GPS

    SECURITY AND DEVICE MANAGEMENT

    Designed for security-conscious IT managers

    Enterprise-grade security features embedded at the hardware level

    RUGGED RELIABILTIY

    Legendary Toughbook reliability and durability

    Port covers for ingress protection consistent with Panasonic's other fully-rugged devices

    Extreme operating environments

    Contact points for professional-grade accessories

    INTERFACES

    Dock connector
    Micro I/O ports

    Toughbook Tablet Gallery Video
     
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    Yawn. Another tablet-oid with a half-baked OS. One of these days they'll actually finish it.

    mnem
    At least its not WebOS...
     
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    I'm curious too see the reviews start coming in to find out how much stronger the screen is. If it falls out of a mount or such in a vehicle it quickly becomes a flying object with alot of force, I would think one good smack on the gear shifter and it would be trash. I hope not, just very curious.
     
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    Latest Press Release. No word yet on it's availability.

    For Journalists
     
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    Decided to quote Mnementh, who has already said something similar.
     
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    Agreed!

    I think that it is a great OS for a phone, but have never understood why someone would want it on a full size PC, notebook, or really; even a tablet.

    Android is really just a limited and somewhat crippled version of Linux and as such I have no idea how they get around possibly violating the Linux License requirement to have an open source version.

    Folks, if you like Android, why not TRY Linux?
     
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    Linux? What's that? I don't need to stinkin' "Linux"... Sounds scary... :rolleyes: :eek:
     
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    Wasn't he the kid with the blanket in Peanuts?
     
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    Doobi ToughBook DeityInTraining

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    Hahahaha that is funny right there, i dont care who y'are
     
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    It does have an SD Card slot.
     
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    I don't know that most people even care anymore dewed; as the www matures, more and more people are seeing their computing devices as one thing: the means to get to what they REALLY want in the internet.

    I feel the same way; I've said for a long time that EVERY OS SUCKS. All this hype over Android vs iOS vs Windows vs Ubuntu; What, Windows 7 isn't even established and now they're hyping Windows 8? I DON'T CARE. I'm sick and tired of being expected to get excited over what is the equivalent of the transmission in my computing device.

    Yes, it's important; but only in as much as it gets my horsepower (CPU) to the ground (Internet). For the most part, I don't give a rat's ar$e until it stops working, just like in my car. WHICH EVERY OS EVENTUALLY DOES.

    mnem
    Take your OS war and shove it somewhere painful. Then take it out, fold until it's all nice sharp corners, and shove it there again.
     
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    I think an Android based Toughbook tablet is IDIOTIC and pointless..
    I have an android device, I use it to make phone calls and email, and in a very tight pinch, internet.
    I can do some work on it, but I'd prefer ANY other OS over using it.
    I see the Toughbook android as a mistake, and only people who HAVE to have something with the name TOUGHBOOK on it will want it....
    Pointless device...
     
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    I'd first like to say I value your opinion, now here's mine.

    What OS would you have liked to seen on the tablet?

    I'm glad that Panasonic wants to get into the tablet market. It may be a pointless market however, look at all the people and businesses that use an iPad. Now there's a rugged version of that. I think it will do fairly well. Good job Panasonic.
     
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    :D Funny, but you have to admit that what Comptronic has to say to say is funnier, of course I do not believe that was his intent...

    Comparing a Toughbook to an Apple is like comparing a Suzuki Samurai to a Mil-Spec Hummer. You are confusing popularity with specially, the Toughbook will never be a computer of the masses . It was never intended as such.
     
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    Comptronic is right though in that more and more businesses seem to be using the iPad, probably often in situations where a Toughbook might be more suitable - like this: United Airlines Launches Paperless Flight Deck With iPad

    For some reason a lot of people seem to like the iPad-style of "computing", to the point where they forego a proper solution just to get the iPad instead. If you follow technology sites, usually whenever there is news about something like the H2 Toughbook tablet, you will also find comments by people who would rather put some rubber case on an iPad instead. They may be misguided, but they are out there in droves, and some of them appear to be in positions to make such decisions on a large scale. Why shouldn't Panasonic provide them with a better solution that still retains some iPad-feel?
     
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    Thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to say but you explained it better.
     
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    Aw c'mon, tell us how you really feel! :p
     
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    Heh.

    Is that a 6-speed automatic in your ToughBook? :wink:

    mnem
    Awww, man... the transfer case just blew out. Maybe I can upgrade to a newer version of Flash...
     
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    I believe you! The cockpit of a commercial aircraft needs no more rugged gear then is used in the coach by passengers. One pilot in 10,000 ends a flight with fresh dirt under his nails.

    I have worked in environments most of my working life that make exceptional demands on electronic equipment. During that time I have heard a lot of specifications discussed as desirable, but NEVER that it have an "iPad style." You are also making the mistake of thinking that popularity has much to do with these decisions or requirements.

    As a matter of fact, I hate it when rugged professional gear becomes popular. Because then the folks that really don't need a rugged anything start buying enough that the manafactuer has to start making decisions based on style; this usually represents a compromise for serious end users.

    As an example I give you the super rugged Sonim XP3 and Enduro line of Quad band GSM phones. I carried one on my first intercontinental foray and it was a great piece of gear! The first models were able to support a whip or external antenna. But Karl the Kyacker and Harry the Hiker, two weekend warriors, liked to sit around the office on Monday and tell of their "serious" adventures and discuss gear. Guys like this told Sonim that they really liked their rugged phone, but that ugly and obtrusive antenna had to go! So now we all have to deal with a crippled piece of electronics gear to satisfy these types. No piece of RF gear will work as well with a hidden and internal antenna as an external one like a whip. It is just simple physics! And believe me, when that is the way that you talk to your family from the middle of nowhere, you will grow to have a serious dislike for this type of marketing push. :mad:

    Ergo, I pray that Panasonic never does anything to make their line of equipment more stylish for the benefit of improved marketability to weekend warriors. I like the fact that they are no good for games! Hell, I would rather that they limit the machines to command line Unix and we all get used to VI again for eMail rather then have these guys have input on my gear! :mad:
     
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    ...or are you just happy to see me?