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    Toughbook SSD thread

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by ADOR, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    I figured we would have some fun and post some speed tests on some SSD's we have in our Toughbooks to compare all in one thread. This isn't a install guide or a tweak guide. Just posting what we are using and what we got for results.


    To keep this even we will need to use this software.

    Bootracer 4.6
    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012



    Please post in this format, Pictures are optional.

    TOUGHBOOK: CF-U1 MK1

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (32bit)

    DISK: SAMSUNG 16GB 1" SSD (ATA5) MCBQE16G \ MPP-M1A

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 5.8

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 53.86 READ / 31.94 WRITE
    512K: 52.79 READ / 7.071 WRITE
    4K: 8.992 READ / 0.132 WRITE
    4K QD32: 16.48 READ / 0.141 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: (NOT TESTED YET)


    TOUGHBOOK: CF-T7 MK1

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO SP1

    DISK: INTEL X25 G2 40 GB SSD

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.7

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012: (TOUGHBOOK IS AT HOME, WILL UPDATE)

    SEQ: READ / WRITE
    512K: READ / WRITE
    4K: READ / WRITE
    4K QD32: READ / WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Having issues running program, coming soon)


    TOUGHBOOK: CF-19 MK3

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO SP1 (32 bit)

    DISK: INTEL X25 G2 160 GB SSD

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.2

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 133.1 READ / 90.17 WRITE
    512K: 120.0 READ / 90.76 WRITE
    4K: 8.363 READ / 22.28 WRITE
    4K QD32: 90.81 READ / 78.90 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: 28 seconds to desktop (bootracer)


    PICTURES:


    CF-U1 MK1

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    [​IMG]

    CF-T7 MK1


    CF-19 MK3
     
  2. Alecgold

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-19 MK5

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO

    DISK: INTEL 320 600 GB SSD

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: unkown

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 261.8 READ / 219.2 WRITE
    512K: 174.1 READ / 199.8 WRITE
    4K: 18.33 READ / 33.60 WRITE
    4K QD32: 134.6 READ / 106.1 WRITE
     
  3. toughasnails

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-53 MK1

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (64bit)

    DISK: Kingston HYPER X 3K 240GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 5.9

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 456.7 READ / 234.9 WRITE
    512K: 402.4 READ / 221.6 WRITE
    4K: 26.39 READ / 46.42 WRITE
    4K QD32: 198.4 READ / 233.0 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: 18 Seconds (BootRacer)
     
  4. Alecgold

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    bootracer was 17 seconds
     
  5. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    I am going to download boot racer and try that out. Any other software you think would be good for comparing?
     
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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-53 MK1

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (64bit)

    RAM: 8GB Samsung

    SSD: Intel 320 160GB (SSDSA2BW160GL)

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 5.9

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 255.0 READ / 167.9 WRITE
    512K: 171.4 READ / 164.1 WRITE
    4K: 18.01 READ / 30.82 WRITE
    4K QD32: 140.1 READ / 93.61 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: 15.5 Seconds (BootRacer)
     
  7. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-74 Mk3

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO 32 bit

    DISK: INTEL x25 40 GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 5.9

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 180.1 READ / 42.08 WRITE
    512K: 153.9 READ / 42.54 WRITE
    4K: 18.28 READ / 31.80 WRITE
    4K QD32: 112.8 READ / 40.84 WRITE

    START UP SPEED:12 seconds to log on / 19 seconds to desktop
     
  8. toughasnails

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  9. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-74 Mk4

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO 32bit

    DISK: INTEL x25 80 GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.2

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 139.8 READ / 72.76 WRITE
    512K: 127.4 READ / 47.55 WRITE
    4K: 18.13 READ / 21.73 WRITE
    4K QD32: 97.67 READ / 42.55 WRITE

    START UP SPEED:17 seconds to log on / 26 seconds to desktop
     
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    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-19 Mk1

    OS: WINDOWS XP PRO 32bit

    DISK: INTEL x25 40 GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: Non - using XP

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.2.2012:

    SEQ: 135.2 READ / 40.02 WRITE
    512K: 120.5 READ / 43.54 WRITE
    4K: 11.55 READ / 19.86 WRITE
    4K QD32: 75.32 READ / 42.85 WRITE

    START UP SPEED:15 seconds to log on / 35 seconds to desktop

    (Didn't have this unit back in my hands much, It was just to fix the sound that quit, (turned off in advanced settings) I did some software updates as well. The test was run on battery.) ( XP has been running a year on this 19 Mk1 and the SSD still shows no degrading still shows 100% and it is used daily as a web browsing pc, 1814 power on times, 1292 hrs run, 1.39tb host writes according to Crystal disk Info.)
     
  11. mklym

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-S10 MK2

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (64bit)

    DISK: Intel SSDSC2CT240A4 240GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.8

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3 x64

    SEQ: 260.0 READ / 237.9 WRITE
    512K: 236.6 READ / 226.3 WRITE
    4K: 14.19 READ / 28.12 WRITE
    4K QD32: 177.9 READ / 189.8 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 9 sec / desktop: 8 sec / total: 17.39 sec.
     
  12. mklym

    mklym Notebook Evangelist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-74 MK4

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (64bit)

    DISK: Intel SSDSA2M160G2GC 160GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.2

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3 x64

    SEQ: 137.8 READ / 91.47 WRITE
    512K: 126.8 READ / 92.22 WRITE
    4K: 16.51 READ / 32.10 WRITE
    4K QD32: 105.1 READ / 79.69 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 13 sec / desktop: 8 sec / total: 21.973 sec.
     
  13. mklym

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-74 MK2

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (32bit)

    DISK: Intel SSDSA2M080G2GC 80GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.2

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3

    SEQ: 138.3 READ / 80.65 WRITE
    512K: 128.0 READ / 83.18 WRITE
    4K: 17.50 READ / 30.66 WRITE
    4K QD32: 104.9 READ / 75.76 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 12 sec / desktop: 13 sec / total: 25.455 sec.
     
  14. mklym

    mklym Notebook Evangelist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-52 MK2

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (64bit)

    DISK: Intel SSDSA2M160G2GN 160GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 7.2

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3 x64

    SEQ: 139.8 READ / 91.62 WRITE
    512K: 128.6 READ / 92.76 WRITE
    4K: 16.75 READ / 27.88 WRITE
    4K QD32: 106.1 READ / 67.83 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 17 sec / desktop: 10 sec / total: 27.056 sec.
     
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  16. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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  17. toughasnails

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  18. mklym

    mklym Notebook Evangelist

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    No worries. Like I said, FYI. :)

    Going to post results for a couple CF-19, later today.

    Thanks.
     
  19. mklym

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-19 MK3

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (32bit)

    DISK: Intel SSDSC2CT180A4 180GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 3.1

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3

    SEQ: 135.1 READ / 130.4 WRITE
    512K: 129.1 READ / 128.1 WRITE
    4K: 13.54 READ / 28.70 WRITE
    4K QD32: 84.89 READ / 0.531 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 11 sec / desktop: 12 sec / total: 23.859 sec.
     
  20. mklym

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-19 MK4

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (32bit)

    DISK: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 128GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 3.5

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3

    SEQ: 207.4 READ / 176.4 WRITE
    512K: 189.5 READ / 172.5 WRITE
    4K: 12.62 READ / 19.26 WRITE
    4K QD32: 183.5 READ / 160.0 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Windows boot: 10 sec / desktop: 10 sec / total: 20.757 sec.
     
  21. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    TOUGHBOOK: CF-M34 Mk7

    OS: WINDOWS 7 PRO (32bit)

    DISK: Samsung 64GB

    WINDOWS 7 EXPERIENCE SCORE: 4.9

    CRYSTAL DISK MARK 3.0.3

    SEQ: 30.53 READ / 30.03 WRITE
    512K: 30.25 READ / 3.304 WRITE
    4K: 11.78 READ / 4.840 WRITE
    4K QD32: 12.94 READ / 0.432 WRITE

    START UP SPEED: Not checked yet.
     
  22. Alecgold

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    Why on earth is this thing so slow in it's SSD?? is it almost full?
     
  23. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    umm...I need a tiny bit more info..
     
  24. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    It's a 1.8" SSD attached to a 2.5 IDE male x 1.8" SATA female adapter. So it's on a IDE channel, Once I get more tweaks done I will do it again and update my first post about it as needed. More about that computer on TBT in the CF-M34 section. It's part of a project of running some of these adapter in older toughbooks to see how they run speed wise.
     
  25. furtherontheroad

    furtherontheroad Notebook Guru

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    CF-M34 MK7

    OS : WINDOWS XP PRO

    INSTAL DATE: SEPTEMBER 2010 (YES)

    DISK : SAMSUNG MCAQE32G5APP 32 GB SLC Parallel ATA UDMA/66
    POWER ON COUNT : UNKNOWN

    BOOT TIME (GLARY UTILITIES) : 24 SECONDS

    CF-M34 SSD cristaldiskmark.JPG :
     
  26. safn1949

    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    Toughbook CF-30mk3

    4gb ram

    60gb OCZ drive

    OS: Windows 7 pro. 32 bit

    Windows experience score : 3.4

    This is the US Navy mk3 with bios pass,I have done nothing to tweak it,just tossed a drive I had into it.

    IMG_20140426_231256~2.jpg

    Boot time 34 seconds by Glary. :D
     

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    Toughbook: CF-52MK1

    OS: Windows 7 Pro 32 bit

    Disk: Intel 530 Series 180GB SSD

    Windows 7 Experience Score: 7.7 for the SSD

    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3

    Seq: 255.6 Read / 222.5 Write
    512K: 230.7 Read / 219.1 Write
    4K: 15.75 Read / 31.38 Write
    4K QD32: 155.1 Read / 137.2 Write

    Start up speed (BootRacer 4.6): Windows boot:13 sec. Desktop: 6 sec. Total: 19.9 sec
     
  28. furtherontheroad

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    CF-19 MK2

    OS: Vista (from recovery CD, only for testing purpose...)

    Windows experience score: 3.0

    SSD: SanDisk EXTREME II 120GB

    Boot Time (Glary Utilities): 30 sec



    cf-19 SanDisk Extreme II.JPG
     
  29. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Since Ador posted this link in another thread... I thought I would put in some info I recently ran across. I've bought several SSDs over the past few days for different builds. I used to use the Samsung 840EVO, Kingston 300 or Kingston HyperX. While comparing prices between Newegg and Amazon I ran across the reviews on Amazon. Apparently the Kingston SSDs have dropped off VERY sharply in quality over the past 6-8 months. They are starting to pile up terrible reviews! Just FYI...
     
  30. BaRRmaley

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    My choice is Samsung :)
    It's a pity we don't have mSATA slot :)
     
  31. Alecgold

    Alecgold Notebook Evangelist

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    Samsung is good in my book, Intel is proving to be really good as well. Sandisk is still new, but still looking good in my very limited experience.

    Had some corsairs force lately that where almost DOA. Had 5 of them, 3 of them where dead within the hour. Some firmware thing, but not user repairable. Send the lot back and got some Sandisk Extreme III's back. Worked nice, and even 10 bucks cheaper!
    I have had really bad experience with OCZ vertex. Can't remember 2 or 3, but ordered 3 and 2 where DOA, third died within weeks. All of them exchanged at the time for Samsungs, never had any problem with those.
     
  32. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Yup... All I buy is the Samsung 840 EVO now. I just used my last Kingston in my wife's CF-52M build. I'll keep tabs on it...
     
  33. toughasnails

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    I have had my Kingston Hyper X for a little over a year and no problems at all but I have been buying Samsung from Newegg these last few months but only because of the price.
     
  34. CF-28 Frankenstein

    CF-28 Frankenstein Notebook Geek

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    I put a Samsung 500GB SSD in my CF-30 build (at the forum's recommendation) and have had zero issues with it so far. I did follow a link from here to a site about optimizing SSD's and followed about 2/3 of the recommendations. I have about 100GB filled so far.
     
  35. Springfield

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    Same CF-53 a year later. Boot times have slipped to around 17 sec.
    Just put in a new Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (Thanks, Rob!) and re-tested.

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    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
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    Sequential Read : 486.955 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 472.686 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 437.633 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 363.188 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 29.403 MB/s [ 7178.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 48.493 MB/s [ 11839.0 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 394.501 MB/s [ 96313.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 305.714 MB/s [ 74637.2 IOPS]
    OS : Windows 7 Professional SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)


    BIG increase in performance with this 840 EVO, sequential writes about tripled! Boot time was varying 15-19 seconds at first with the new 840 EVO, then I used Samsung Magician to optimize system settings and now getting solid 15's. Samsung setup it's own power profile so I changed back to Panasonic power saver and boot times seem the same.

    Then I setup "Over Provisioning" using Magician with the recommended setting of 10% and selecting the Reliability option. Rebooted and re-ran CDN:
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    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
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    Sequential Read : 504.608 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 478.510 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 450.137 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 343.795 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 30.071 MB/s [ 7341.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 51.441 MB/s [ 12558.9 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 392.317 MB/s [ 95780.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 297.164 MB/s [ 72549.8 IOPS]
    OS : Windows 7 Professional SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

    Most of the scores improved a few percent with OP, although Random Write 512 slipped a few. Overall a very impressive drive especially considering that Panasonic probably slowed down the sata interface on this 53 for heat control and/or reliability (?) as they are prone to doing :rolleyes:
     
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  36. Toyo

    Toyo Notebook Deity

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    Toughbook: CF-30MK3

    OS: Windows 7 Pro 32 bit

    Disk: Samsung 470 256GB

    Windows 7 Experience Score: 7.1 for the SSD

    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3

    Seq: 152.8 Read / 149.5 Write
    512K: 151.7 Read / 143.3 Write
    4K: 12.71 Read / 29.98 Write
    4K QD32: 87.1 Read / 83.2 Write

    Start up speed (BootRacer 4.6): Boot time to full function: 28 seconds. This figure is very variable as we all have a different # of programs starting up at boot.

    Considering the SSD is a tad shy of 4 years old I can't complain.
     
  37. onirakkiss

    onirakkiss Notebook Deity

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    I use Samsung 850 too but today I got this emailed: https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-drives-are-not-that-solid/

    "
    Broken SSDs:
    • SAMSUNG MZ7WD480HCGM-00003
    • SAMSUNG MZ7GE480HMHP-00003
    • SAMSUNG MZ7GE240HMGR-00003
    • Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series
      recently blacklisted for 8-series blacklist
    • Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512GB
      recently blacklisted as 850 Pro and later in 8-series blacklist
    Working SSDs:
    • Intel S3500
    • Intel S3700
    • Intel S3710
     
  38. bennni

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    Same problem here - tried two OCZ Vertex drives and one was DOA and the second failed very quickly. Went with Sandisk Ultra in the end - the price was good and performance has been impressive (How well it stacks up against other SSD's, I'm not sure).
     
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    Looks like Intel's blog :))
    Just bought 500GB Samsung 850 Evo at Amazon. USD 180.
     
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    I first started off with Intel way back when. I currently have 5 Samsungs running everyday that have never let me down. Fingers crossed!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    That's a good price. I paid almost that for my Samsung 250GB when I got my CF-53.
     
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    Hey, folks!

    Sorry for necro-posting here.
    "Rocking" a CF-53mk2 here. After installing an SATAIII capable SSD I notice that this toughy only uses SATAII [3gb/s] capabilities, whereas the chipset has SATAIII built in.
    Is this by design in the CF-53 [energy consumption, what have you...], or am I doing something wrong?

    Thanks!!
     
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  45. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    No necro posting, this is one of the threads we keep up from time to time to put what speeds we got from the toughbook on here for others to compare to theirs.

    You guessed it the speed is locked down by the factory. I don't have that exact model to compare but maybe someone else does. Run crystal disk mark and post your score up. If you don't want to install the program there is a portable version.
     
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  46. Karl Klammer

    Karl Klammer Notebook Consultant

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    FYI, some Disk Mark results of PassMark Performance Test 8.0 in MegaByte/second

    CF-19mk6 with Samsung 850Pro on Win7 gets these results:
    194,9MBs SeqRead, 182,4MBs SeqWrite, 115,7MBs Random RW

    CF-19mk3 with Samsung 830 on Win8.1 gets these results:
    80,3MBs SeqRead, 84,9MBs SeqWrite, 73,8MBs Random RW
     
  47. Bertie Wooster

    Bertie Wooster Newbie

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    Hi there!

    Getting speeds typical for SATA2 on a CF-53 mk2. HDD is a SanDisk Extreme Pro SSD 240GB.

    @Springfield I wonder how you're attaining those results in CDM. Those are SATA3 not SATA2 speeds. Was there a bios update in the meantime?

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    CrystalDiskMark 5.1.0 x64 (C) 2007-2015 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 284.822 MB/s
    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 268.079 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 81.895 MB/s [ 19993.9 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 72.901 MB/s [ 17798.1 IOPS]
    Sequential Read (T= 1) : 261.125 MB/s
    Sequential Write (T= 1) : 251.837 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 22.905 MB/s [ 5592.0 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 26.101 MB/s [ 6372.3 IOPS]

    Test : 1024 MiB [C: 13.4% (29.9/222.8 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
    Date : 2015/12/29 12:49:30
    OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 10586] (x64)
     
  48. Toyo

    Toyo Notebook Deity

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    CF-54
    Samsung SSD 850 Pro 512GB
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