Toughbook parts commonality

What all stuff can you swap from one model to the next?

I'll start out with a couple that I know.

I believe the CF-28 battery works with CF-48 and CF-50

The optical drive caddy/floppy is good for CF-27, CF-28, CF-29

I think the keyboard works for the CF-27 and cf-28.
Not sure about night-light support across marks or whatnot.


I really hope I am not making a redundant thread.
Anything i have wrong, please point out. Any other parts, please add it in. If this thing takes off, maybe I'll turn it into a spreadsheet or some other sort of useful format.

 

Good idea rickdog

Most common item between the models

DC in jack for ac or dc adapter

Old style (black plug)

ToughBook CF01, CF17, CF25, CF27, CF28, CF33, CFM34, CF35, CF37, CF45, CF47,CF48, CF61, CF62, CF63, CF71, CF72, series


New style (yellow plug)

Toughbook CF18, CF19, CF29, CF30, CF50, CF51,CF-52, CF73, CF74,F8,R1, R4, R5, T1, T2, T4, T5, T7, T8,U1, W2, W4, W5, W7, W8,Y2, Y4, Y5 ,Y7series


Please point out any errors, and please feel free to suggest additions to this , as I will edit the post to reflect new info


Alex

 

Rickdog... I believe it is been talked about there before... But it has never been limited to one thread... Let's do one here and if it looks good and is fairly complete... We'll sticky it.

Good idea!

 

I'm not sure how complex this thread will become... But we all must remember that even though some things will work between models... Not ALL things will work within models!

For instance... CF-27, CF-28 & CF-29 all share the same floppy and optical drive (CD/DVD) But you can't swap screens between all models within the CF-800 series without some soldering and/or minor changes. We need to make sure that is something is talked about in another thread and it pertains to this thread... That we point the discussion over here or at least post about it in this thread.

 

Wow. I'm really happy this is taking off.

I take it that the keyboard is in fact compatible between 27s and 28s?

 

Yup. Two of my 28's have 27 Rubber/Backlit keyboards.

The exception to the rule would be the backlit with hard keys, because it needs a third connector on the motherboard, so it won't fit into 600MHz 28's, nor any 27.

 

And some 29s too, at least it worked for me. I have swapped a 29 black keyboard into my CF28 and it works great until I find a rubber one in good shape.

 

Seems that a CF-30 handle mostly fits on (but is not an exact fit for) a CF-29.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=230864

I like the idea of storing the stylus in the handle, but I don't like the idea of spending $50 for the handle, $10 for a matching stylus, and $?? for shipping described as "nails you with shipping". So for now I'm using a cheap (3-for-$6) NDS stylus stored inside the media bay cover.

 

Standard keyboards are compatible between the CF-27, 28 & 29... However the illuminated ones are not. The 2-conductor rubber illuminated will work on the CF-27 & CF-28.... But the ones on the CF-29 require 3-conductor ribbon cables to work properly.

Port covers are all different between the 27, 28 & 29 but can be swapped between same models. (IE 800 MK1 fits 800 MK3) with the exception of the bottom cover (Battery and hard drive)

Hard drives are all different between 27, 28, 29 & 30. On the CF-28s... The 600MHz models have a shorter hard drive caddy... So 600MHz model caddies fit the 800MHz & 1GHz models... But the 800MHz & 1GHz models are too tall to fit into the 600MHz models. So... If you find a 600MHz caddy on ebay (They usually go for less than the 800 models) then you can install it in your 800MHz or 1GHz model.

 

What about touchpads? IIRC, Grav mentioned that the CF-27 and 28 shares the same part except it wasn't "glued-down" in the 27s

Keyboards are interchangeable between 27, 28, 48, 50 but a tad high in the 73.

Same batteries and dock replicators between CF-17 and CF-M34.

*stands ready to be corrected*
Ron

 

Grav would need to speak to the touchpads as he is the CF-27 expert...

Oh... I forgot to mention that the different keyboards MAY necessitate the need for a different hinge cover or keyboard strip. I noticed that the CF-28/600s that I had that came with rubber keyboards don't like a regular keyboard in there with the same hinge covers. The same goes with rubber keyboards in the CF-29 & 30... If you have a rubber keyboard there is a hinge cover that actually reaches out and over the keyboard to hold it in place (And help seal it) rather than just pressing onto the the tabs on the bottom of the keyboard.

 

What about ram and HDDs? I know that toughbooks are really picky about the ram they like and some of the HDDs seem to work better than other ones.

 

I will take on the hard drives and modify/add to my power supply post
It will take a few days though , lots of models and research to get it right


Alex

 

How much interchange is there between a CF-50 and a CF-51? I just bought a Core Duo 1.66 CF-51 with fingerprint reader and SD card reader, however there is no HDD or caddy. Also, the LCD or the inverter or both are bad. This is going to be my next ongoing project (along with the CF-28 and the CF-M34 I am building) and I plan on using it to replace the CF-50 I use as a desktop now.

 

The cf-51 shares the same optical drive as the cf-73
The cf-29 cf-51 and cf-52 use the same battery
You should wait and and disasemble the lid to look for a lcd part#
And to diagnose the screen problem yourself, just to know if it's inverter, or backlight
The lcd will probably be a common 15 inch , so maybe not too expensive
Most are samsungs

Alex

 

the 27 and 28 use the same touchpad. The 28's is siliconed in place but the 27's isn't, so a scrap 27 makes a great touchpad donor. Note that the ribbon cable is NOT the same, however.. You must continue to use your 28's ribbon cable.

Here's a few other random thoughts on parts swapping:

the CF25 is a breed unto itself.. NOTHING swaps with ANY of the other models. (except the AC adapter)

The port cover HINGES are the same on the 27 and 28.

The sliding plastic piece and steel stamping that go inside the rear cover on the 27 and 28 are the same.

The batteries are compatible between the 28, 48, and 50. (and the CF50 has the high-capacity greentab battery!)

The 29 battery, although deceptively similar in appearance, is NOT compatible with the above.

The 25,27,28, and 48 (and probably many more) use the same AC adapter as the Sony (Vaio) PCGA-AC16V6.

The CF50 does NOT use the above power supply.. But, it IS compatible with the supply used on a great many IBM Thinkpads. (not personally confirmed, but i will be verifying this shortly)

 

Since Gravitar brings it up: 1 Lind Auto/Air Adapter fits the following Toughbooks with only the two cables with which we are all familiar, ie pre-CF-29 and CF-19 and the one for the later models.

Toughbook CF01, CF17, CF18, CF19, CF25, CF27, CF28, CF29, CF30, CF33, CF34, CF35, CF37, CF45, CF47, CF48, CF50, CF51, CF61, CF62, CF63, CF71, CF72, CF73, R1, R4, R5, T1, T2, T4, T5, T7, U1, W2, W4, W5, W7, Y2, Y4, Y5

It looks like the only odd balls are late 50 and 70 series machines.

Note the lack of the number six as discussed recently.

CAP

 

I have a CF19GHGZXAM without a wireless card. What model 11b/g/n cards are compatible?

Anyone have a source for a GPS module for the above model CF-19?

 

Hello Everyone,

I wonder if there is any other models caddy that is compatible with the caddy for CF-52 ?
I want to have an extra HDD for my CF-52.
tks alot.

 

AC Adapter Compatibility
CF-AA1623A: CF-18 (MK1 to MK5)
CF-AA1633A: CF-19 (MK1 to MK3)
CF-AA1639: CF-28 (MK1), CF-48 (MK1 and MK2)
CF-AA1639A: CF-28 (MK1), CF-48 (MK1 and MK2)
CF-AA1643: CF-28 (MK2)
CF-AA1653: CF-28 (MK2 and MK3), CF-48 (MK3)
CF-AA1653A: CF-29 (MK1 to MK5), CF-30 (MK1 to MK3), CF-50 (MK1 to MK5)

 

Are motherboards interchangeable between Marks? For example, if I have a cf-28 800MHz, can I install the cf-28 1GHz board in it?

 

In my experience, the CF-28 Mk1 (600mhz) is a unique critter; the MB and bottom case fit only that model. The Mk2 (800mhz) & Mk3 (1000mhz) are interchangeable between each other, both case and MB.

mnem
Don't git any on ya...

 

I completely agree about the cf 28 mkI.It is completely different from the MKII and mkIII and even the parts that do interchange like the LCD and touchscreen cannot be swapped as a complete assembly because of a different wiring harness.Also you can swap a 12 screen assembly with a 13 on a 800mhz and a 1000mhz and it will work fine but you do the same with a 600mhz and it will not work.The 600mhz use different mobos for the 12 and 13 screens(altough they look identical)

 

Yes, the cf28 800 and 1000mhz motherboards interchange freely but if you have a 600 mhz you are stuck with it.

 

Mk1 & Mk2 caddies will fit Mk3 CF-51s, which I believe yours should be with that processor. I've no idea about the screens. The power supply that comes with the Mk3 has an output of 8.0A instead of 5.0A on the Mk1&2. I don't know that you absolutely have to have the higher output, but I think the Core Duo takes more power the the Pentium 4 M. The case bottoms are not interchangeable, the Mk3 has two more USB ports on the back among other things. That's all I can think of offhand.

 

If you melt down the Magnesium onthe CF-27 thru CF30 they are compatible.

 

The keyboard compatibility confuses me. My cf 50 has one ribbon cable and from the photos I see, it looks like all the others except the cf 51 have 2 ribbon cables. Some have 3 cables. Research done from fleabay photos.
I would like a black rubber (#1 choice)or standard black keyboard on my cf 50. I am not worried about backlighting. Which ones work for sure?

Shawn

 

The 50/51 both use the single ribbon keyboard. There has never been a rubber keyboard for either model. I just sold my last black keyboard, but I have the grey/white version if you can use it. Many have tried to use a keyboard from other units, but they all have at least two ribbon cables and some have three.

 

Thanks, I have the gray/white version already. Just looking to upgrade to a black one. Rubber would be really great, but I guess that's not possible. Is the 50-51 series the only ones with one ribbon cable?

Shawn

 

As far as I can remember,they are the only ones. At least of the ones I have had apart.

 

What about CF-18? What parts are interchangeable? I found a CF-18 without AC adapter and HDD caddy...I have also a CF-73 and the AC adapter I think is fine for CF-18. Can I take the HDD caddy from another model? I can't find a CF-18 caddy.

Thanks!

 

The ac adapter will work
The cf-18's all use the same caddy ,but it's a different caddy than other Toughbooks


Alex

 

So I will think about buying it. If I count the caddy+HDD+charger it will be the same as buying one which is complete.

Thanks for help!

 

Correct caddy + new hard drive is over $200


Alex

 

Do the CF-29 floppy drives work on a CF-30? They don't make internal floppy drives for CF-30s as far as I am aware

 

No they don't
I use a usb floppy drive when needed, but even bios updates on the cf-30 are done within windows


Alex

 

Well not internal, but I have one of the old Toshiba PCMCIA FDD that I used briefly on my CF-29 with XP. It worked and booted fine. I have not tried it in Win7. I see them all the time in Hamfest flea-markets for $5.

 

The CF 50 and CF 51 keyboards are interchangeable. I am using a 51 keyboard on my 50 to type this. It looks a lot better than the white one.

Shawn

 

Thanks! That's good to know. Shawn, the CDD caddies too!
Ron in SG

 

on the Cf-18, are all the motherboards interchangeable? I have an Mk1 but want to upgrade the motherboard to a mk4/5 mobo.

 

You may go ahead but you need the audioboard of the same MARK as the MK1 has diffferent audioboard setting. Mark 2-5 has the same only MK1 is different. Good Luck!



ohlip

 

Thanks... how about upgrading the wireless card? the mk4/5 have a a/b/g while the mk1 just has b. Would that be a simple swap also?

 

Its very easy to. Its plug n play(mini pci card not PCI E)but of course you need a corresponding driver.


ohlip

 

Do the CF-29 keyboards (emissive) and MP CD drives work in a CF-30?

 

Keyboard - yes, CD drive - no.

Glen

 

Well.... Yes and no... And no.

The keyboard connectors are the same.... But there is an attahced piece on the bottom of the CF-30 keyboard (Std keyboard only) that slides to lock it in place. The emissive and rubber types do not have this as they are thick and double-sided tape is used to help keep it in place. The standard keyboard is so thin that something is needed to help "fill it out"....

Now... With that said.... If you have a CF-29 Std keyboard that has the extra backing on it... double sided tape will do the same thing for it that it does on the emissive and rubber types.

DVD drives are not swappable between MK-29 and MK30...

 

Does anyone know if the Touchscreens are interchangeable for Cf-30 Mk-1 and the Cf-30 Mk -3? I know that they have different part numbers.

 

CF-VZSU14B 11.1V 3.6A

 

Can the green backlit chicklet keyboard from a 28 Mk2 or Mk3 be put in a 29?

 

@ Almstprfct1
No, the keyboard will work but the backlite uses a higher ac voltage which is optional on a few cf-28's only
The cf-29's only output 5vdc to illuminate the keyboard