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    Ubuntu 10.10 Is this the Toughbook Version?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by SHEEPMAN!, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. SHEEPMAN!

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    **EDIT SEE# 93**EDIT on 11/24/2010 POST 4 and 23. CF-29 and CF-30
    Ubuntu 10.10 was released on 10/10/10. So two days later what do we have? I used Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop Edition

    1. Hotkeys work out of the box.
    2. Touchscreen works out of the box but a little off. (I'll get to that)
    3. Slightly faster boot time.
    4. Video works with no mucking around.
    5. Touchpad very live-able on the highest setting.

    One thing we get is a test disk for Touchscreens. Download and burn the .iso file from the Ubuntu page to either CD or USB. (Very clear instructions there) Stick the Live CD or USB in the questionable unit and the Touchscreen should be usable. No TS and it's broken or not there.
    If using the USB route(my choice for the higher marks 3-5) move the slider to make a larger persistent file. I overloaded the first one at it's lowest setting and had to format and re-burn the USB.

    There is a cute little program called xinput_calibrator. I grabbed the one from this page freedesktop.org - Software/xinput_calibrator. Loaded it using the Ubuntu Software Center and it showed up under System Administration Calibrate Touchscreen. Ran the program (touch four x's) and that was it. The Touchscreen was calibrated and worked fine, no re-boots no nothing.
    However on re-boot I had to re-calibrate. :confused: I read the fine print and noticed it was giving me four numbers to install in a file in xorg.conf. No file existed. :confused: This page answered my questions. Where is X.org config file in Ubuntu 10.10? How to configure X there? - Ubuntu - Stack Exchange Did this and TS worked fine after re-boot

    So there you have it. I downloaded last night and have spent about two hours reading the information and testing it on CF29 Mark 3,4 and 5. Of course it's early days yet and glitches may appear but so far I like it a lot. :)

    If you need help with the code give me a ping.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Jeff
     
  2. KLonsdale

    KLonsdale Notebook Evangelist

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    That is really an improvement I have been fooling around with the Linux Mint Debian edition, has promise but still needs some work, I really like the idea of having a rolling release, but with the success you have had I think I will download the ISO and give it a whirl just to see how it works.
     
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    Maybe someone?? will add the calibration program, and make a ready made iso/boot disk us programming challenged/lazy people could download and use out of the box. PLEASE? :rolleyes:
    Thanks
     
  4. SHEEPMAN!

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    Update 1.

    To add the results of your Calibrate Touchscreen to the persistent file on the USB: See note below ***.

    code:
    Run Calibrate Touchscreen and cut and paste the results to the above. Ctrl O to save.

    This is so the changes will be saved on the USB from session to session if you are just working off of the stick.

    Calibration results from my Mark 3.
     
  5. Azrial

    Azrial Notebook Deity

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    This is a very helpful post. Thanks Gork!
     
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    Can't get my installer to even see my SSD on my CF-19, so no help here....
     
  7. SHEEPMAN!

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    I still wasn't happy with the touchpad so I:
    code:
    cut and paste to the empty file:
     
  8. SHEEPMAN!

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    Quick search. Have you tried a different SSD?
     
  9. gmgfarrand

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    I tried the TWO I have, same model Corsair P128, very annoying.
    So, what I did was clone my SSD to a HDD, re-partition since I have Win7 on it, then install UBUNTU, run updates, re-clone back to SSD and boot.
     
  10. SHEEPMAN!

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    Kind of duh! on my part as usual but what do you mean by installer?

    Thanks,

    Jeff
     
  11. Rob

    Rob Toughbook Aficionado

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    lol. I thought you were a member at toughbooktalk.com right? If not, then just sign up and I'll approve you right away.

    Thanks
     
  12. gmgfarrand

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    "Kind of duh! on my part as usual but what do you mean by installer?"
    Ummm.... The UBUNTU installer.... ;)
     
  13. SHEEPMAN!

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    O.K. I thought you had some other magic installer involved.
    So if you boot from a Live CD the system hangs?

    Jeff
     
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    Negative... it just doesn't detect the SSD, so basically I can install it NOWHERE.
     
  15. SHEEPMAN!

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    Does this mean anything. Found it hidden in a post somewhere.
     
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    Three things I found.
    1. 10.10 and SSD should play.
    2. One person tried it in a different machine with no issues and
    3. Blamed in on the motherboard. Possibly a connector.
    Other than that nothing at this point.
    Good luck.

    Jeff
     
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    I got it to go with my posted workaround, not gonna sweat it..
     
  18. SHEEPMAN!

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    CAUTION
    I did an upgrade install from 10.4 to 10.10 and ended up with the Black screen of death. Again this was an UPGRADE. Works fine until the desk-top tries to load.
    The new installs are fine.
    More as I figure it out.

    Jeff
     
  19. SHEEPMAN!

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    After several more hours , my recommendation is to NOT try an upgrade. Several files in 10.04 and 10.10 are definitely not compatible. Especially Touchscreen files. More as I figure it out.

    Just to be clear I am all for a brand new stand-alone or dual boot version of 10.10. It likes Toughbooks and may be the Live CD you were looking for as a tester for CF-29s.

    And to be strictly honest I did have a power outage while I was mucking about with some files. Just can't remember which ones.:eek: But I am not going to try upgrading again.


    Jeff
     
  20. foxxyfoxtrott

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    Hi Folks!

    Thanks for the warning, but unfortunately too late for me :( ...

    Got the black screen after updating from 10.04 to 10.10..

    After playing around I got it running, but no working Touchscreen and I can´t enable compiz...

    greetings from germany,

    foxxy
     
  21. KLonsdale

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    APT upgrades can be iffy although I have done it twice on my cf-28 and was successful both times. The best way is a clean install after backing up the home directory and restoring after the upgrade. Linux Mint has a debian version that uses rolling releases instead of the new install, upgrade method, but it is not as user friendly as Unbuntu and Mint Main edition.
     
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    Sorry i was not quicker on the warning. Welcome to the forum though. I had some help...still not fixed by looking at Xorg.log and found udev was missing. Reloaded it and things are a little better.
    There is a strange mix of things going on. Vesa refusing to load being one of them.
    What do you think? I am gong to try:
    Thanks to KLonsdale.
     
  23. SHEEPMAN!

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    O.K. that didn't take long:rolleyes:
    I was running dual boot so backed up both home directories Ubuntu and Mint and then did a new install using the whole drive for Ubuntu 10.10.
    Everything sorta worked as in post 1.
    Did my touchpad tweak first. (post 8)
    Followed the instructions on page one of this thread.
    The difference at this point is found in the text in post 4.
    The output from the calibrator suggests using (/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-calibration.conf)

    The difference is FWIW that the files in /usr/share are read by the system before xorg.conf is read. Whatever that means.
    I'll update this missive after I restore my /Home directory.

    Wish me luck.

    Jeff
     
  24. captinkid

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    Thanks for the post, my CF-18 (clean install) booted right up, and with your instructions the touchpad and digitiser are spot on.

    Now to backup my home folder on my main CF-29 and try a clean install with that one!

    :D
     
  25. Rob

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    FWIW - If you have the ISO of this precious OS you can put it on my server so that when Ubuntu goes to the next version and discontinues this one everyone can still get it...

    Let me know Jeff.
     
  26. KLonsdale

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    If he can't I have it on my hard drive.
     
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    O.K. no one has hit the wall yet so I may as well answer it before the question. The units with the 855GM chip sets (Mark 3) may experience the phenomena of the disappearing touchpad/mouse pointer. This is a problem in the kernel and I have the answer if you will bear with me a bit.

    I went through several fixes one of which re-appeared the pointer and disappeared the wireless. :eek:

    Don't panic yet, I'll be back on the unit I fixed and edit this in a second. This whole thing may have transpired after an update (new kernel)
    The patch is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes

    There is more information on the page but I used the first section entitled GTT Incoherency Patch and then since that was not enough, I then used section A (highlighted above) ((thanks to the author))

    Worked for me and I am typing on it now. I'm glad this came up. It seemed too easy. Now I feel as if I worked for it a bit. :D But the best thing is the loading process is a lot smoother. What I wanted was a HDD I could run in Marks 3-5. I need to re-test that in a second here. Didn't get to it last night.

    My clean down-load was on a Mark 4 which worked fine. Then when I stuck the drive in the Mark 3 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: But all is well now.

    Enjoy.

    Jeff
     
  28. SHEEPMAN!

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    Can you get together with Rob on this. I installed all the upgrades and there-by the fractured kernel I believe.

    Let me know.

    Update: to previous post....the Hard drive doesn't care if it is in a Mark 3 or Mark 4. Both working fine now.Edit Add Mark 5 to the list.
     
  29. KLonsdale

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    I sent him the link the the Unbuntu download page.

    Download | Ubuntu
     
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    Did you try it yourself?

    Burn a CD and try it in a CF-30.

    Thanks to you both.

    Jeff
     
  32. Rob

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    EHH! I'm not a fan of Ubuntu... Linux in general scares me... I'm just trying to help others out, that's all :)
     
  33. KLonsdale

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    Hey Rob, thanks for hosting the image.
     
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    The version posted on Rob's site has not been tweaked yet has it? It is "out of the box"?
     
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    It's whatever I downloaded directly from Ubuntu's site... If someone has a "tweaked" ISO, then they need to upload it to my server and I'll delete this one and put up the "tweaked" one instead.

    Thanks guys!
     
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    I believe Gork is working on one. Last time I communicated with him, he was trying to reduce it in size to make it a Live Cd. Maybe the Live CD is completely different than this iso.
    I do not know a lot about Ubuntu so I may be wrong. I have been known to be wrong even on subjects that I know something about.
     
  37. SHEEPMAN!

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    Tweaking still in progress. I tried replying earlier but the system was down somewhere. I'll keep you posted.

    Thanks for the support.

    Jeff
     
  38. SHEEPMAN!

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    I'm glad I named it as above because the verdict is still out. This is primarily due to the issue with the 855GM chip. What I was looking for was a test vehicle for all Marks of the CF-29Toughbook, enabling the Live CD or an installed full version on HDD that could be swapped between Marks.
    One phenomena of the 855GM patch is that the download manager wants to re-install the 2.6.35-22 kernel on any upgrade. What that is about I am not telling. 'cause I don't know.

    I am going slow. I want the package to be as complete as I can make it but I need time to test.
    To do:
    1.Try more of the 855GM patch page.
    2.Swapping between marks.
    3.Waiting on a working Touchscreen for the Mark 5 so I can add it to the list. it's in the mail.
    4.Recover from a little knife fight (with a surgeon). Back basically but minor. Affects my typing and concentration.
    5.Work on the dual boot issue when 7 is pre-installed.
    6.Choose some files to delete to shrink the modded Live CD so it will fit a standard CD.

    I'm very happy to hear that the CF-18 worked out.

    I think we have the black screen of death figured out but it carries a couple minor glitches with it as I have utilized it here. The good news is I am typing on a Mark 3 with 10.10. No black screen and otherwise almost fine.

    Somebody send me a CF-30 so I can try that. :D
     
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    The check(or CF 30 in this case) is in the mail.
     
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    Hey Jeff,

    I am waiting for the Linux Mint 10 release in November which will have the Unbuntu 10.10 base (Just my personal preference) to install on my cf-28, very interested in what you are doing and want to try the same thing with Linux Mint.

    Keep up the good work,

    Keven
     
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    Just downloaded U-10.10 and installed it on my CF-74G with a Corsair 128GB SSD. It saw the drive and loaded no problems. Seems to run real nice (and blazingly fast with the SSD).
     
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    Did you install alongside an existing W7 or just by itself? Touchscreen?

    Thanks.

    Jeff
     
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    Installed alongside existing W7. Touch screen calibrated OK and seems to work good.
     
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    I have it down to 487.7. With the modified /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Hence the Touchscreen works out of the box.
    I need some help. How do I burn an .iso (without losing the changes)from the modified version or more correctly what program do I use?
    Anybody?
    Power outage forthcoming. More later.

    Jeff
     
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    Image Burn will let you build an ISO and save it or burn it, plus it's freeware.
     
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    They have the invisible mouse fixed in an upstream patch, which is I think the one that you linked to.

    Hopefully they will integrate into the next major kernel revision.

    :D
     
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    Did they make it so that I can get the mouse pointer across the screen without a billion swipes of my finger across the trackpad?

    I swear, one swipe and it'd move half a millimeter.

    I don't know enough C++ to write my own drivers for the mouse.
     
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    Re-boot.

    Pele, This is from post 7 of this thread.

    deere245 I am running on the LiveCD but it's still at 726. I need to get under 700 of course for CD. If I'm doing this by the hour I just about have that CF-30 paid off. :D
    captainkid thanks I hope so.
    Klonsdale thanks but I finally got remastersys working. Well, almost. I'm losing files in the process. But a little better.
    Thank you all.
     
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    Anyone running Fedora 13 on these babies? I know absolutely nothing about linux, so I dunno if the aforementioned patches work the same through all distros. It just seems fedora may be more hardware friendly, i think it takes up less space too.

    I just want to be able to run the flashy mac os x/aero like interfaces that linux is capable of and still manage to perhaps play an xvid movie at the same time.

    In modern machines ubuntu 10 and fedora 13 fare similarly when benchmarking, but I wonder if that is still true w/these machines.
     
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    You probably want to start with the distro everyone else here seems to be using, for the sake of easier community assistance.

    Ubuntu also tends to support tons of third-party software; more so than Fedora, SuSE, or other similar projects.
     
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