Ubuntu 12.10 install fail

looking for help installing ubuntu 12.10 i install from usb and cd and both , give the same results. a binking cursor on a black screen and all i can do is reset but i can run from a live usb just fine . i running it wright now as i type.

thanks in advance

-j-j

 

Is this on the CF 18 In you signature or another unit. I still hang around the 10.10 version. On your mk1 in your signature are you sure it is 1.5 gb ram? I have only seen 256 of ram on the motherboard of cf18's until mid production of the mk3.

 

no this is on a cf-29 mk5 with 1.5gb and a160gb hdd

-j-

 

Saaddlemaker or some one on the linux side has to have the knowledge. i tryed 12.4 last night and it was flawless so why wont 12.10 work

-j-

 

I had enough issues with 12. graphics and the menu changes that I rolled back to 10.10 on MK 3 and under and 10.10 upgraded to 11.? on MK4 and 5.

They made a change in the Xorg's xserver etc. in the beta. i believe it is a case of the graphics outrunning the laptop. May have mentioned this before. Another lose was Unity 2D as I understand it.

In your particular case ...are you loading the O.S. from the LivedCD desktop after it boots or from the CD menu? The reason I ask is I, when installing from CD menu, always click the INSTALL UPDATES box when installing a new system. Also do this if the nomodeset feature described below is used. Sometimes a new driver has been installed in the Software Center or a change has been made in a later kernel.

I don't have the information you need at this time but eventually I will try 12.10.

Meanwhile take a look at this. nomodeset
installation - My computer boots to a black screen, what options do I have to fix it? - Ask Ubuntu

I'll check back and see how you do. BTW have you tried upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04?

Jeff

 

Double post time.
A little more reading.
Could it be that the Livecd does not access your wireless and the install from grub does?

Suggest using wire until (hopefully) updated and then make sure your wireless card is not black listed or some such nonsense.

Good luck.

Jeff

 

What CPU is in there?

 

The Mk4 and Mk5 CF-29's have the 1.6 Pentium M 778

 

I believe that's the problem right there.

These are 400Mhz Dothan Core CPUs that do not support PAE, which is (to the best of my recollection) a requirement for 12.10

 

askubuntu question:
"Why is 12.04 using a PAE dependent kernel by default?"

one answer:
"This is fine for people who have computers built this century. To get a computer that doesn't have 32bit PAE support, we need a really old computer. We're talking PII/Geode level old, but also Pentium M machines like lots of Thinkpads.
These are computers that should be thrown into the sun. They are far below what people throw out and much better machines can be had for almost nothing on Ebay and the like."

Now I'm sad coz I have two CF-29's I have to throw away. Only looked to try to keep up with what you guys are talking about. Otherwise I'm like "No Lisa, it's a saxomophone"

 

Not necessarily. There's a bunch of other distros that will play nice with CF-29 (or any 400MHz PM platform) since they don't include the ridiculous PAE support requirement...

 

I had it on a cf28, worked perfectly, just some minor issue with touchscreen that i solved after some days, but was the 28 and was ubuntu linux 10.4, i do not advise you to use newer version due to the change in the graphic interface, Gnome2 before 10.4 and Unity after 10.4, Unity is heavyer than Gnome2 and require a serious graphic card.
10.4 is a LTS (long term support) so is not that bad, use it is lightweight, or try Xubuntu (ubuntu with Xfce interface) or Linux Mint actually at version 14 (Nadia).

 

I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu, but looking to install it to my 19mkV, anything I have to know/read?
I'm a bit worried about rotation and the touchscreen & digitizer.

 

You can install ubuntu inside of windows like a program, and if you don't like it you just install it the same. After install you get a black screen that asks you want you want to do ubuntu or windows, if you don't choose it goes to the default boot. Remember you can also run it live from a usb or cd/dvd drive. It just won't have the updates live. If you have another pc you want to try that one first just to test it out because I know you use your 19 for work go that route first.

All of the digitizer I have used 10.10 up works out of the box with out calibration it is spot on. Touch works out of the box but is not calibrated. If you want to read more look up "10.10 is this the toughbook version"


Personally I don't like the unity desktop on ubuntu now, but that can be changed by loading up a new desktop shell.

 

Thanks! Good to hear so much does work out of the box! I do use this laptop for work indeed, but I plan to install Ubuntu to a second caddy with a smaller (256Gb) SSD. This way I can tinker tweak and experiment the hell out of it and format if I don't like it or start over if something goes south.
I have never used any Linux before do it will take some time getting used to I guess.
Any other good sites or reads for a first time Ubuntu user?

 

There are several out there even though I can't really recommend one. Once you install ubuntu it will update online and do the driver updates for you. Then you can see what you need to change to your liking. Also have software update center where you choose what you want to install from a list of 100% working software. Like VLC media player, etc. You also have the option to install other linux 3rd party programs. Then you can get into WINE and run windows programs on linux. Not every program will work, some need a few setting changed to work but quite a few work with it.

 

Yes, Ubuntu is one of the easiest distribution to learn and use, opposite to slackware that is the most beautiful and hardest to use IMHO, but keep in mind that a live version of ubuntu is unpleasant to use, very slow, no updated program, etc. If this is your first try, i suggest to give a full install, 256GB is enorous for linux except you want to use the space for storage, it's different from windows for concept, kind of "mind" and programs, you came (at 99%) from win so you need to get friendly with the new system (to be honest, after seeing win8, i wouldn't be so scared from linux he he).

One of the first things to do is to set a SUDO password, SUDO stay for Super User DO (DO not DOH), you simply navigte the menu anf find the "Terminal", open it then write:

"sudo passwd" followed by enter
It will request your USER password, then ask you to enter a new SUDO password and then to reconfirm your SUDO password. It's very important because this pasword will be asked to you every time you will install a new program or you want to change a system setup.

To test that the change is effective, write "su root" followed by enter, then your root password will be asked for (root=sudo, ALMOST equal), to re-become a normal user write "su YOURNAME" and then enter, then your USER password.

Little tips, for my normal home uses i use the same passwords for both ROOT and USER, just to don't forget it, if you use it for work this will be a security fault.

 

If you have a older machine laying around go look up DSL (damn small linux) the developer just picked it back up and started updating it again. His goal is to have the whole OS under 50MB that means web browser, GUI interface, games, all of it fits under 50 MB.

DSL information

If that is way to small you can use the base and add on to it making it bigger though DSLN (DAMN SMALL LINUX NOT) extensions. Check out some of the other popular linux's though multi-boot also. Fedora, Mandriva, Mint, etc, etc.

 

Slackware 14: Release Notes still has non-SMP (single-core) kernel versions, without needing PAE, going from i486 and a few MB of RAM, up.
You have full control of the distribution, no dependency nightmares (but you need to know what you're doing), you can tweak/strip/tune it as much as you like.
It's one of the oldest Linux Distro's (my first), maybe 2nd/3rd after YggDrasil or Sorcerer, and it (still) keeps to its roots and principles.
I've been out of touch with it in the last few years, but if you it to do what you want (not what it wants or thinks it's better) than this is the one.

P.S. of course, there's always (Theo de Raadt's) OpenBSD if you're into that sort of *NIX.

Later edit:

talking about small distro's: there's a very nice Slax Live Linux (USB-persistent changes/CD) under 210MB, which has a full desktop setup (read: I booted it on my CF-30mk1, has everything working, even the WWAN connection!)
You can also load it fully in RAM (min 512MB) ( Copy-to-RAM option at boot menu) and then you can unplug the usb/cd, and it's as fast as possible (faster than any SSD!, btw).

 

That mini slax sounds like one to check out.

 

Does EVERYTHING work?

The only unit I use Ubuntu 12.04 pae desktop version is my beater CF-74G. Very quick, but I got rid of the cutesy buttons on the side. I don't like the scroll "improvement" either. I did something to get the menus back but they are in the wrong place.

10.10 rocks for me. I don't WANT my computer to look like a cell phone. Less GUI's more words.

reference passwords on Linux. I use "password"(no quotes) and keep the login short...like this one is "cf52". I'm running multiple Toughbooks and hate getting locked out.

I threw my 12.04 LiveCD at a MK5 yesterday and got a "no pae" error. Yes there are non pae versions of the same distro but this is the one I have.

 

Oke, first few hours on a mkV, almost everything works nicely, screen, digitizer, Ericsson HSDPA+ card, hot-buttons didn't work (know there is a workaround for the rotation button, but haven't been so far yet) and the touchscreen is way off. I found a programm xogg or something (I don't have unbuntu at hand) for calibrating, but I didn't understand how to start it and when I accidently did, I couldn't save it. I needed to change a file in etc/....something..... but I had no rights, so I made a SUDO passwrd but after that time was up and I needed to go back to work.
I was certainly impressed with 12.4LTS. Was sometimes a bit unresponsive (e.g. during the ~180Mb update) but work really nicely along Windows as a dual-boot! No need to erase the drive!
There are three important things I need to find out first: how to print to pdf really well, how to OCR scanned pdf's really well in Dutch and how to import some 60.000 outlook messages into a good unbuntu mail program. But I will go on finding more out about Ubuntu and the way it works.

 

Look for thunderbird, free outlook. Works in linux and windows. Install cups-pdf for virtual printer to create a pdf.(Ubuntu software center) How Jeff did the touchscreen is in this thread.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/524581-ubuntu-10-10-toughbook-version.html

And if you need it off you can get un-install like a program in windows. You can view your windows files and with wine can even run some of the ones you already have installed because all of the dll's needed are already there.