Used restore Disks now have 2 non-touch touchscreens ??

I decided the other night to do some house cleaning so I got my CF-29 MK3 and MK5 out and like a stupid sh#t I got out the restore disks out and restore them like day 1. Now these are " NOT SBC" and they work great or did. The MK3 had XP and the MK5 had W7 but I was never happy with windows 7 on it. So I restored them and when I was done I had 2 machines with non-touch .Now what are the chances that both screens went at the same time. I have never had a problem with the touchscreens on these two 29's since I bought them over a year ago. So am I missing something? I have checked the BIOS and it set "enable" The only thing that I have done to them was upgrade the wifi card since the last restore. I have restored them twice in the last 24 hours still no luck. I might try the Windows OEM disk and download all the drivers from panny site just to see what happens.

 

So it didn't install the touchsrceen driver automatically? Does it give you a calibration option?

If not... I would try downloading the applicable driver and installing it manually. (By updating the mouse driver via Device Manager.)

 

Rick , it does give me the calibration option . I tried updating the mouse driver via Device Manager but it told me I had the best drivers installed. I have never had a problem with these restore disks or any toughbook restore disk before. I know it sounds like a bad touchscreen but both of these 29's have always run great untill I restored them.

 

Maybe try uninstalling the mouse and reinstalling the touchpad / touchscreen driver. Windows might THINK it has the best driver. Just like most of the time it won't install the Hotkey driver automatically unless you "force" it.

 

I just installed a touch screen on a nontouch mk4 and it showed up in the bios and loaded the drivers but when I tried to use it or calibrate no response.... I got a second touch screen installed it and wha la it worked on first boot. Mine was redone from recovery disks as well. I tried every ts driver I could find even the manufacturers drivers and nothing worked on the screen but bios and software thought the screen was there....

Never did try a re-install of just windows and load drivers manually.

Let us know if that works. Was the old install on the mk3 recovery or manual install?

wichie

 

Take all out the add on hardware like battery, cd rom, ram, etc. and then power it up go to bios and set it to deafault setting. I've guessed a power glitch may coz the trouble as you mentioned that you stock it for quite sometimes.


teo

 

I will give it a try when I get out of work tonight and see what happens. I have the base off it at the moment , Putting the old wifi card back in just to see what happens.

 

Did it work for you cause my mk5 is doing the same. Keeps telling me the TS driver that i downloaded isnt compatible yet it was working fine until I upgraded the driver

 

Is this the driver you downloaded ? mouse_29_5_d050515.exe
http://pc-dl.panasonic.co.jp/dl/download/file/006597/s/648d4ce49dbc699e/mouse_29_5_d050515.exe

 

I installed a new touch panel and TSPCB on my 29L3L. The first time I started the computer the touch worked. But.....no calibration utility down in the corner.
1. I checked \Util to see if it looked right. Mine is under C:\Util.
2. I removed touchpad/touchscreen in control panel.
3. On re-boot went into bios and set to defaults.
4. [F10]
5. Now the little guy was there.
6. Right click...calibrate...and done.
I'm wondering if the path to the \Util folder is different. Someone that reads code could tell you where Plug n Play looks for the drivers on the local machine.

FWIW

Jeff

 

Blair
You started this thread, but it is still unresolved
You had 2 cf-29's that you thought that you had a software issue with as the touchscreens stopped working after restoring
Coincidence , or hardware failure (thats what I think)

Curious cat wants to know what failed

 

I don't think its a software issue. 100% its a hardware issue. It has an intermitent condition as a sign of total failure soon.

Blair!.. if you could have a chance to dismantle both of the unit. Just send me the two bezel with TS assembly and I will repair it for you.

ohlip

 

Another little thing. I had a screen "brown-out" on me. Rusty suggested checking the connections on the MB. I removed and inserted a couple times and the TS works fine. Corrosion apparently as the MB sat in the shop all winter.
Again FWIW.
g'luck
Jeff

 

This week I will get them out and have another look at them. I got busy back a few months ago moving from one house to the other and then christmas came along . I think I did get the MK3 working , it was a software issue but the MK5 the touch screen still does not work. I will let you know.

Teo, thank you for the offer and if I can't get it working.....sounds good

 

How I got the MK3 touch working was I removed the EnGenius EMP-8602+S and put the intel card back in and it started working again. I have not tried this with the MK5 yet. What intel wifi card came with the mk5.....2100 ? Can not remember

 

Intel 2915abg on the mk-4/5

 

My Mk3 has the same card: Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Card

While we're discussing these cards, anyone have an answer as to why the Intel Centrino Mobile logo disappears from the BIOS splash screen when the OEM network card is replaced with the EnGenius card?

 

C.R.S.?

 

The labeling changes as the bios now detects a component thats not part of the centrino specs
The specs call for 3 items (all intel) that make the label
btw change your link to 2915 , the 3945 is a pci-e card

 

OK; CPU, NIC and GPU, perhaps????

Right link; wrong label; label corrected.

Thanks for the info.

 

Correct
intel m/b chipset + intel cpu + intel wireless lan card

Even if you upgrade a 2100b intel or 2200bg to a newer intel wireless card you loose the branding as the old bios will not detect the newer card properly

 

Yup; they did this because the Centrino specification was all about decreasing power consumption to dramatically increase battery life; EVERYTHING in the platform could be "throttled back" to decrease current draw. The CPU has SpeedStep, the Chipset has video which can shut down part of the GPU when it's not needed and uses dynamic brightness control on the display, and the WiFi uses dynamic power output control to decrease current draw when a user is closer to an AP.

People who were getting all P-O-ed at HP for tying the BIOS down to specific WiFi cards don't understand this; in order to get the volume pricing on the chip bundle they wanted, Intel FORCED them to do that to keep the Centrino branding pure, just like MS FORCED them to do the whole "MB Tattoo" route to keep their volume pricing where they wanted it. HP needed to do it; in order to continue building with better quality components and still make profit, they had to decrease costs elsewhere.

mnem
I blame the winged monkeys.

 

what are those things in your avitar? dwagons or winged monkeys? you need to blow up the picture so those of us who are visually ......... whatever, can see it better.......Driller

 

I lost the Centrino brand on my CF51 when I swapped the 3945 for a 5100. At first I thought the card may be bad, then I cut the pin and when wlan still did not show in the bios, I booted to windoze and all was well. The bios does not recognize the 5100 card as being Centrino or Intel and does not show it at all, just like an Atheros card.
I try to keep a 3945 and a 2100 card on hand all the times just in case I need to verify in a Toughbook bios that the WLAN is enabled.

Microsoft, Intel, or Hp winged monkeys? Let's not group all corporate monkeys as being alike. My favorite monkey is still the Trunk Monkey.

 

They would be dragonlets, they appeared when mnem became a daddy. I preferred the "Dwagon as mad alchemist model" previously displayed.
CAP

 

A couple of questions

Did you need to mod the 5100 ,by covering one pin , you say cut,that I don't understand

Is the 5100 better than the 3945
I find the 3945 to be an excelent card ,only missing N ,and my internet throuput is quite low so I am fine with G speeds

 

I mean that I choose to cut the trace to the pin instead of cover it. I didn't want any paint/tape/etc.. in the pcie slot.
I don't know if I needed to cover/cut the pin or not. When the 5100 did not show up in the bios, I assumed that I needed to mod the pin. After I modded the pin, it still didn't show up! By see it in the bios, I mean show the Centrino logo and show the enable/disable option.
Up to this point I had not booted fully into Windows yet.
Then I booted into Windows and magically the card was working. It may have worked right away without modding the pin. I had incorrectly assumed that any Intel card would show up in the bios. When as you stated, only certain Intel cards show up. The rest are like the Atheros cards and the bios does not see them, but they work fine as long as you previously enabled WLAN in the bios

My personal opinion is that it is better. It does n which I don't need but I like to have. It has better power management (according to Intel anyway). I figure it's 2 generations better, so it probably does use less power. The 5100 uses 2 antennae. That makes it a direct swap.
The 5100 outperforms any Engenius card I have used. At least when I am sitting on my couch and getting hits on/to my neighbors g routers. Lastly, I paid $5.25 for the 5100(shipping included). For that price, I couldn't pass up the chance to upgrade.
If you search for a cheap one on fleabay, I searched for 512an_MMW.
It was originally in a Toshiba and the fleabay ad said nothing about it being a 5100. I would avoid the Dell, and Lenovo versions. Those ones seem to be somewhat proprietary.

 

Driller -

Cap'n is indeed correct; I changed it when my baby gurl dwagonlet was born (Our 2nd). There are 5 little twouble-dwagons in that picture; hence the caption.

Cap'n -

I dunno if TinkerDwagon will be coming back any time soon. I am approaching the 3,000 mark, so I DO intend to put up a new avatar... but I already have like 3 to choose from.

mnem
I like the flames on this one... but this one has the plasma eyeballs... and this one... *HEAD EXPLODES*

 

What, we've started BRANDING them now, like the Sugar Bowl?

"This airborne assault brought to you by INTEL brand Winged Monkeys; we've got THE POWER!"

mnem
*Goes to shop for RAID for LARGE FLYING PESTS*

 

Do winged monkeys throw poo?

 

Just did another restore and no luck, still no touch screen . Installing all the updates so will see what happens when I get up.

 

Blair, worst case scenario... reinstall from scratch and see if you can pin-point the culprit.

 

This time I am going to just use a regular XP disk and download the drivers and see what happens. Thats next weekend job.