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    Why Panasonic Laptop is so slow?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by hendra, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. hendra

    hendra Notebook Virtuoso

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    The highest speed for Panasonic light notebook is 1.6 GHz or 1.5 GHz Duo Core (Panasonic Y5). Sony managed to put 2.16 GHz Duo Core with only slight increase in weight with their Sony Vaio SZ91P.
    Why can't Panasonic do the same thing?
    What's wrong with their design?
    Is there any hope that Panasonic will be able to match Sony within the next 6 months?
     
  2. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    There is nothing wrong with the panasonic, it just uses low voltage processors so that the design can be smaller than the sony, and lighter. These are different from the normal core duo processors becasue they consume less power - but as a result they arent as fast.

    The answer is no, they will not be putting in a faster processor, because that is the fastest low voltage processor that intel make.

    Why would you need 2.16Ghz processor any way??? what are you planning to do with that much power.

    So the choice is up to you.
     
  3. hendra

    hendra Notebook Virtuoso

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    My 5 year old ultralight notebook is a PIII 700 MHz. If I am going to buy a new one, it has to be at least 3x faster. Otherwise, the money I spend is not worth it.
     
  4. asolarian

    asolarian Notebook Guru

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    intel has brainwashed you into that more mhz = more performance... but unfortunately intel itself has given up on that strategy. There are other factors involved in the power of a cpu, and I'm willing to be that the pentium m LV's are still 3x more efficient and powerful than a pIII 700mhz
     
  5. gethin

    gethin Notebook Evangelist

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    asolarian is right, those new core duo's will be 3 to 4 times faster than your current 700mhz pIII - especially in multitasking.

    From now on you can't say that more Mhz equals greater performance between processor lines, you can only do this within a processor line.

    e.g. a 900mhz p3 will be twice as fast as a 450Mhz p3, but a 1000mhz core duo will be faster than a 1300Mhz p3 (theoretically speaking)
     
  6. brain_stew

    brain_stew Notebook Consultant

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    You've NEVER been able to say that. A Core Duo running at 1.5ghz is going to be several times faster than that old P3 just in single threaded apps, if we're talking multi threaded apps or multi tasking its not even worth comparing, the gap is so huge.

    If you must compare in mhz then think about having the equivalent of two P4 cores running at ~3ghz for a good estimate of its power,
     
  7. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Old thread but what the heck... The Toughbooks are a little slower because they have no system fan (My CF-28 doesn't) so they need to keep the heat down! Performance = heat... Ask any overclocker! You can speed it up if you install a 7200 RPM hard drive. They don't use that much more power (If any) and it speeds the performance up dramatically. It won't turn into a gaming notebook but your applications will open in half the time of a 4200 RPM drive.
     
  8. dietcokefiend

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    True, but take out the 4200rpm rugged drive designed for that use, and you better be more careful with the laptop. They arent your standard 4.2k drives, but special ones designed for high vibration and impacts.
     
  9. Toughbook

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    Actually... After looking up the part numbers for the drive... There is really nothing special about it. There IS something special in the way it's packed. The gel packing really works well. I talked to Seagate... They said that they don't recommend the 7200 drives in toughbooks because of the higher heat they generate. So far... My infrared gun shows the new drive is cooler than the old one anyway. This is the one that I bought...


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822146229

    I don't rough-house my laptop much but it is nice to know that I can. I've tested the new drive by slamming the laptop down on a counter or two but I haven't tried anything else. I definitely don't handle it with kid-gloves like I do my other two laptops. (Dell Inspriron 9100 & Sony Vaio)
     
  10. Ice-Tea

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    Whatever you're doing to 'test' your harddrive, stop it. You have no idea what you're doing. Ever put an accelerometer to a pencil while tapping it against a counter?

    I did. That's several 100G's. It's not because you think you cooked up a test it should easily survive that it actually will.
     
  11. Toughbook

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    My point is that there is nothing special about the 30GB drive in the CF-28. It's all in the way it's packed. I haven't "cooked up" any tests. I bought my CF-28 to experiment with. I have 6 PCs... 2 desktops and 4 laptops. (2 of which are CF-28s) The CF-28 that I do most of the experimentation with was an old parts unit... But it works. If my experiments pass muster then I put them in my nicer CF-28. I've been experimenting with several things. I'll be putting WiFi and Bluetooth in it next. I've been hacking stuff for years now... I think I DO know what I'm doing. True... Some things get broken along the way but we call that "Learning" and "Experimentation"... The fact is... You can add a faster hard drive to speed up the CF-28 without sacrificing it's durability.
     
  12. Outrigger

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    the SSDs can handle several time of G shock than a typical hdd, so I'm curious to see if and when Panasonic might incorporate that into their toughbooks. Being that it generates no heat is also a plus.
     
  13. jviss

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    So, this is a tangent, but - what method/procedure do you use to move your system from the old drive to the new? Is there a quick and easy, foolproof way, such that windows, etc., will work just the same?

    Thanks,

    jv
     
  14. Toughbook

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    I reformat my PCs about every 12 - 18 months anyway. In this case there wasn't anything on the old laptop that I wanted to save as it was new to me. If I'm putting in a brand new hard drive I want to make sure that I am starting off fresh... With no corrupted files.

    There are several migration tools to use. I've seen several posted on this site though I don't remember what they are.
     
  15. lupin..the..3rd

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    I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet, but the other benefit of the ultra-low voltage processors is ultra-low heat. Toughbook wouldn't be so tough if it had huge wide-open cooling vents like most laptops.

    You can't take a laptop with large vents and openings for cooling into the sandy dusty Iraqi desert, or into a wet muddy construction site, and expect it to last longer than a few days.
     
  16. Toughbook

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    No offense... But that's a given...