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    Win 7 Pro or 10 Pro for CF31 ?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by sunrk, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. sunrk

    sunrk Notebook Evangelist

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    Age old conundrum. Which OS to use with a CF31? Win 7 is less bulky but older. Win 10 is newer but more bulky...

    Win 7 support won't last much longer. Win 10 still has a good bunch of years left before support is dropped. Not that it mattered with XP pro - most people just kept using it after MS dropped support for it.

    Some sellers do not supply OS media so how readily available (legally?) is that material for people buying a used CF31?

    Does Win 7 properly support SSD's and all the other hardware options that can into a CF31? Do all Mk's of CF31 get full and proper support with WIn 7 and 10?
     
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  2. BaRRmaley

    BaRRmaley Notebook Deity

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    Bulky? Please explain :)
    14.01.2020
    Yes.
     
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  3. Toughbook

    Toughbook Drop and Give Me 20!

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    Here's what I did... I loaded the Win7 from the recovery DVDs and then upgraded to Win 10 via updates. I wrote a thread on my experiences and how I did it. There was, as always, great comments by others in the thread also.

    When you upgrade you will be given an option to carry your programs over to Win10 or to start fresh. START FRESH! If you feel the need for your drivers... There are still in the Util folder but are not installed. The first two CF-31s I loaded Win10 on... I fiddled with the drivers to get them all working. On the last one I left Win10 to control everything.

    No it is not more bulky...

    Yes it supports SSDs

    YES your laptop will operate faster!

    As was mentioned in my thread... There is Windows Ultimate Tweaker to batten down the hatches to keep MS from running your life. There are also programs to put a Win7 face on everything... I went these two routes and love the end result!
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Panasonic has drivers on their site for Win10 64bit for mk3 and mk4.

    They all support SSD, but it is much better to install the SSD before Windows is installed. You can do an upgrade, but some tweaking is needed to reset Windows to use the SSD properly.

    I setup Win10 64 bit on my CF19 mk6 with 8gb ram. Works great and uses the Win10 built in mapping program. I downloaded all the maps so GPS mapping works offline.

    I agree with Toughbook. I ran a couple tweaking programs and gave it a Win7 look. Deleted all the Metro stuff. Removed all the spyware.

    Yes it is legal. Buy it from here...

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832397687

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rkt/48DN
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    ugh.....
     
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  6. toughasnails

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  7. sunrk

    sunrk Notebook Evangelist

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    Lol well CF31's unless they have the special extra stuff don't have cameras or mic's. Imagine that - buy used CF31 with webcam that has a brand new Win 10 installation, Turn it on, and the first thing you get is Cortana from Contoso University trying to talk to you and take over your computer.. ewwww.

    I get the feeling that Win 7 Pro is really good and WIn 10 Pro is also really good if certain things are removed. Sound about right?

    Re Zorin, that's a version of Linux. Linux is a far better OS that WIndows but is much less mainstream.
     
  8. SHEEPMAN!

    SHEEPMAN! Freelance

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    I like Zorin but prefer MX-17 released 12/15/17. Just saying, not trying to start an argument.

    For several CF-31 (MK1,2,3) I loaded W7 SP1 then the driver bundle from Panasonic. Slight bump in the road with newmisc but ummmmm.....sorry I'm running MX-17 53J (speedracer with a ssd) need to start my 31S to figure out what I did. I'll look it up. edit (find newmisc, run pinstall bat as admin)end edit

    Some of the 31s (MK2&3) use a different touchpad...Interlink Versapad...a PS/2 Mouse (Type) No issue in Windows but a possible issue in Linux. I'll pop a usb stick in 31S and see if they (Linux) fixed it yet.

    Cheers
     
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    That may be true, BUT the funny part is how much spying ANDROID does. And it is Linux based. Everyone is so afraid of Windows, but use their smartphones without regard to security and privacy.

    And for every ones information..All those Win10 spyware devices have been retrofitted into Win8 and Win7 via"security" updates.
     
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    When I click on those links, I get message:


    This site can’t be reached
    %20ftp’s server IP address could not be found.

    DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
     
  13. toughasnails

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    windows 10 and there push updates are PURE GARBAGE!! How it makes the pc act up and then *poof* reboot..I had one pc take 3hrs to load the updates.. I have a feeling that panasonic will be going to support win 7 for longer than we think.
     
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    I would like to think that too but if Microsoft has any say it would be sooner than later :mad:
     
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    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    I have had a fair amount of hassle with Windows 10 but it is getting better, I simply don't like the interface at all, same for Windows 8. But that's just me. I have several customers that run it and it's on one of the 3e's I sent to the Philippines.
     
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    poof reboot is very easy to disable
     
  18. sunrk

    sunrk Notebook Evangelist

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    Found an Aussie place that's got some Mk3 CF31's available (2.6 ghz) and they are doing Win 10 Pro installs via USB sticks. I'm hoping they might do me a copy of the USB stick if I buy one of the systems however the seller said they prefer to set up a seperate partition to install the recovery image onto. Is that a good or a bad idea?

    One of their config options is a (discontinued?) Ericsson F5521GW WAN module - is that optimal for a CF31 to give native 3g (perhaps 4g as well) or is there a better option that's Win 10 compatible?

    What about with SSD's - seller wrote back to me saying they normally use Micron or Samsung SSD's up to 512 GB capacity. I don't have any SSD experience yet so what is likely to be the better option?
     
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    I would tell them you don't want a partition on your HDD. Tell them it could be a deal breaker or if it comes down to it you could do it yourself.

    Go with the Samsung SSD'S. I have never had a bad one yet in 3 years. I have had 1 Micron go dead after 3 months which I replaced with a Samsung drive.

    If you go with W10 check out the link below. @Phoenix keeps this thread updated and tells you which update not to install so MS does not track you. Trust me he know his stuff. He has helped 100's if not 1000's set up there W10.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/

    Quote from Phoenix.....Also use O&O ShutUp. For one, it doesn't brake anything in Windows and for 2,with each new build of Windows 10 there is way more things to clean that come up like for example now we have cloud search and conducting experiments on your machine by Microsoft so you always wanna use a too that's updated
     
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    Ok good info thanks. Seller will use a Samsung SSD as requested and will supply USB version of 64 bit win 10 pro restore image. So I've decided to buy one. Will cost me about A$1600 but it's from an Aussie seller who has a really good reputation. It'll have a 512 GB SSD and 16 GB of RAM with fresh install of WIn 10 Pro.

    Seller has new genuine batteries and has agreed to fit one. They're standard capacity ones though so I will probably try to get a higher cap genuine one at some point.

    No CD/DVD drives in their systems so are there any options for those or just a single Panasonic solution?

    My partner has a fancy schmancy super-thin win 10 system (not a panasonic) but she does absolutely nothing to customise it. ;-)