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    Win7 Ultimate?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Kardan, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Kardan

    Kardan Notebook Evangelist

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    I've noticed that a lot of the "Titans" of this forum have chosen to install the Ultimate version of Win7, a few Pro versions but few if any Home Premium versions. I've searched the forum for a mention of why this choice and looked at the MS comparison chart as well - but I can't see any obvious reason for the preference. I'm getting ready to make the leap to Win 7 for my CF-30 Mk1 and would appreciate some guidance on which version to go with. Did somebody just offer a great deal on Ultimate discs or am I missing something?

    Thanks.
    Brian
     
  2. KLonsdale

    KLonsdale Notebook Evangelist

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    Look at the MS comparison chart and choose the one that best fits your needs. There is no need to pay for features that you don't need or plan on using in the future unless you just want to have it all.
     
  3. toughasnails

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    My CF-18 + 29 I run XP Pro, my CF-51 I have Windows 7 Home and my CF-30 I have Windows 7 Ultimate......save your money. It's not worth the almost $100.00 extra
     
  4. Alex

    Alex Super Moderator

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    Home Premium 32bit should be all that you need
    The reason you see mention of U7 so often is that many of us bought special deals when it was first released
     
  5. Kardan

    Kardan Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks guys, just what I needed to know.
     
  6. adamwest436

    adamwest436 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ultimate was language package and BitLocker. It sounded soo cool and the black case made it look so exclusive over the others. Could have been ok with a lower version.
     
  7. Azrial

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    I have Win7 Pro on my CF-29 and Win7 Ultimate on my home machine.

    The Ultimate had a lot of nice stuff that was not worth its size in HDD space on my CF-29, as I have to carry a LOT of data.

    That and I bought valid student versions of Win7 Pro, which I was eligible for, for $33 shipped from one of their Student Sales Outlets. :D
     
  8. ToughNut

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    For those still sitting on the fence, please elaborate further on those 'nice stuff' :p

    Will a 29 Mk5 with 1.5gb RAM loaded with W7 be zippy or dragging it's feet? I like what I see in my 51/W7 Ulti but that has 4gb RAM...
     
  9. toughasnails

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    Well Ron, we both know how nice the 51 runs with W7. Well the 29 will not even come close to that.....it's like Dragging both feet :rolleyes: and hands :p
     
  10. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    I would think that a 29 with maxed out RAM and a fast HDD could run as fast as our Mk2/Mk3 28s run XP; especially if you set it to classic mode to eliminate the load of the Aero interface and all the other stupid stuff like menu & icon animations, etc. We used to do exactly the same thing with XP by turning off the "Active desktop" & disabling all the drop shadow, etc on the desktop.

    My wife loves Win7 Pro on her DV6000 & all it has is Pentium M 2.13GHz/1.5GB RAM.

    mnem
    Aero. Hoopdy.
     
  11. ToughNut

    ToughNut Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks, Blair. That about sums it up but... I have an itch to scratch, so maybe I'll just ghost the current XP Pro on the 29 and do a fresh install of W7, just to see it crawling on all four :p

    Dwagon, W7 noob alert! Where about are these settings you speak of? *still groping around...*

    Cheers
    Ron in SG
     
  12. Azrial

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    Go here... :D
     
  13. toughasnails

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    The difference is
    1. Run many Windows XP business programs in Windows XP Mode (separate download).

    2. Connect to company networks easily and more securely with Domain Join.

    3. In addition to full-system Backup and Restore found in all editions, you can back up to a home or business network

    4. Help protect data on your PC and portable storage devices against loss or theft with BitLocker.

    5. Work in the language of your choice and switch between any of 35 languages.

    6. Nice fancy black box too :D

    So is it worth the extra $100.00.....nope, just my feeling
     
  14. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    It's a Theme in Win7. You could, of course, also try XP Mode if you REALLY want to...

    Download Windows XP Mode

    mnem<~~~Virtual Dwagon~~~<<<
     
  15. eno801

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    I would think it would run okay. Didn't one of our members get Win 7 to run on CF-28. Win 7 is very efficient, like mnementh says just turn off the eye candy and you should be good to go
     
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    I have W7 Pro on a CF-T5 with 1gb ram. I have one program that will not run on W7. It runs fine in XP mode. W7 runs fine with 1gb ram.
     
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    To OP: I think home would be fine, the other functions of pro and ultimate can be achieved with open source software.

    XP mode is nice but you can use other virtualization software.

    Now the language packs however are worth it. Simply ask yourself do you need a language other then English? then Ultimate is probably worth it.

    Drive encryption you can accomplish with open-source software on home just as-well as you can on ultimate.
     
  19. Alex

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    Not that efficient
    I can tweak a XP instalation to run on 200MB of ram, where W7 needs around 900MB at idle
    W7 seems more officiant than Vista was though
    These O/S and software keeps us wanting to upgrade to more capable hardware
    Heck , the economy is in a slowdown , lets all buy new CF-31's and be done with it lol
     
  20. mnementh

    mnementh Crusty Ol' TinkerDwagon

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    Are you running it in Windows Compatibility mode, or under the Win7 XP Mode virtualization environment?

    The problem with XP Mode environment is that you are essentially running a copy of XP INSIDE of Win7 (You even get a separate license for that copy of XP); that is pretty resource intensive. XP Compatibility mode just uses patched extensions in the HAL to make the legacy software THINK it's running under XP.

    mnem<~~~EXTRA compatible~~~<<<
     
  21. Shawn

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    Hmm....might as well make it dual boot and just keep a copy of XP on the drive. Most of us already have a license for XP anyway.
     
  22. db04p71

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    Under the Win7 XP Mode. Because of the limited ram available, XP mode is set to 256mb. The program is an old database program that requires an old version of Java that's incompatible with Win7. Trust me, it really works OK.
     
  23. eno801

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    how would you set up an install of dual booting with the restore disks? is that even an option on my desktop at work I got dual boot XP and Win 7. I had to install XP first then install Win 7. I don't think the restore disk gives you the option to install to a partition or does it.
     
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    Yes, the restore does give you that option of creating a partition
     
  25. eno801

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    so could I use my XP restore then my Win 7 restore would that work? this would be a CF-30 mk3 by the way

    I would rather use restore disks to avoid all the driver installing and problems. Lord knows the Cf-19 Vista to Win 7 upgrade took way too long. That's why I cloned that sucker on 2 hard drives when I was done so as not to go through that again. :p
     
  26. gmgfarrand

    gmgfarrand Notebook Evangelist

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    I installed Win7 Pro on my 30mk1.
    Since I have TECHNET, I can basically load any of the versions, I didn't NEED the extra features that ULTIMATE provided, I loaded that on my i7 desktop with 16GB of RAM and 8TB of storage..

    As for XP, I couldn't stand XP mode, so I use VMWARE workstation.
    Runs just fine...
     
  27. Alex

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    No that will not do it
    You will need to do the xp restore,leaving a partition open for W7
    Then you will need a regular W7 disk and do an advanced installation installing it onto the second partition

    To me that is a big hassle ,and you have an easily removable hard drive caddy
    Look in the buy and sell section, I am selling my cf-30 caddy :)

    I need xp ,and I originally used the spare for xp and the main for W7
    I have a cf-73 that I use exclusively with xp now for those programs that need it
     
  28. adamwest436

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    This.

    My 29 has a an Independent XP and an independent W7 HDD caddy. Only downfall is I saved most my files on XP so when I'm on W7, I keep forgetting this when I start having a fit looking for it.
     
  29. Alex

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    This
    Buy a very reliable usb storage dongle
    Hey I will send you one free , well not quite free as you need to send me your old not needed anymore hard drive caddy lol
     
  30. adamwest436

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    LOL when I upgrade to a 30 or 31 over the summer I will no longer have need for either!