Your Toughbook and W10...Things you need to know

So who has installed Windows 10. Well as of today over 67 million computer users have and why...because it's FREE. Well News Flash folks, it's costing you a lot because M$ is in business to make money. If they are going to give it away for free there must be something in it for them

Below is a post my Matrix Leader and a few other forum members

 

I came across Matrix Leader thread and though it would be good to post it here. I know I have been asked this many times so here it is

These Windows 10 upgrade activation updates are like a virus really, only thing is, it's a legit virus

KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)KB2670838 (The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update only, do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install)KB2882822 (Very fishy update that just popped up with not enough detail about it)
KB2902907 (Microsoft Security Essentials)KB2952664 ("Get Windows 10" Assistant)KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)KB3012973 (Force Trigger Download and Install of Windows 10)
KB3015249 (Adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 7 & Windows 8)KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation + Telemetry)KB3022345 (Telemetry)KB3035583 (GWX Update installs the "Get Windows 10" app in Windows 7 & Windows 8)KB3044374 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8 systems)KB3050267 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this)
KB3064683 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3065987 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3065988 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3068708 (Telemetry)
KB3072318 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3074677 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3075249 (Telemetry)
KB3075851 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3075853 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3078667 (Claims to fix memory leaks in dwm.exe but also is a Windows 10 upgrade preparation according to this article)
KB3080149 (Telemetry)
KB3081437 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3081454 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3083324 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3083325 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3086255 (Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1)
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Please check out the below link by Matrix Leader
forum.notebookreview.com/threads/updates-to-hide-to-prevent-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

 

Here are a few links to help you better understand Windows 10 and what you are getting yourself into.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/why-i-dont-like-windows-10.779540/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/poll-do-you-like-your-windows-10-upgrade.779545/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/why-i-dont-like-windows-10.779540/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...anything-illegal-can-and-will-be-sued.780319/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-upgrade-again.780471/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/poll-getting-keeping-reverting-windows-10.779733/

 

After The Release of windows 10 microsoft started spying users with all version of windows using updates.
https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases
Supported Products

• Windows 10
• Windows 7
• Windows 8 & 8.1

 

If you have installed W10 then you should check out this software www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Free antispy tool for Windows 10

O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far.

Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated.

O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days

 

nice find...I wondered how long it was going to take for someone to develop this.

 

I accentuate your attention on the fact this spying is not only Windows 10 problem now.
So it's a reason to use one of these utilities on Win7, 8 systems too. As well as upgrade to Windows 10 all those Win7-8 PCs )

 

This only runs on Win10...I tried it on Win7...fail on 7

here is another for Win10..It looks VERY thorough..

http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

• Disable Telemetry
• Disable Biometrics
• Disable Handwriting Data Sharing
• Disable Handwriting Error Reporting
• Disable Application Telemetry
• Disable Inventory Collector
• Disable Steps Recorder
• Disable enabling Lock Screen Camera
• Disable and Reset Cortana
• Disable Location
• Disable Sensors
• Disable Web Search
• Disable Windows Media DRM Internet Access
• Defer Windows Upgrades
• Disable App Notifications
• Disable Password Reveal Button
• Disable and Reset Advertising ID
• Disable SmartScreen Filter for URLs
• Disable Sending Writing Info
• Disable Access to Language List
• Disable App Access to Location Info
• Disable App Access to Camera
• Disable App Access to Microphone
• Disable Getting to know me
• Disable App Access to Account Info
• Disable App Access to Calendar
• Disable App Access to Messages
• Disable App Access to Radios
• Disable Sync With Devices
• Disable Windows Feedback Requestes
• Disable Windows Update Sharing
• Disable Windows Update for other Products
• Disable WiFi Sense
• Disable Windows Defender
• Disable Automatic Windows Updates
• Disable OneDrive
• Disable Automatic Driver Update
• Disable Automatic Windows Store Updates *new*
• Enable Do not Track in Edge *new*
• Disable Malicious Software Removal Tool via Windows Update *new*
• Disable KMS Client Online Validation *new*
• Disable Retrieving Device Metadata *new*
• Disable Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program *new*

 

Destroy Windows 10 Spying...
This one works on Win 7 Win8 and Win10.....AKA--Lose7, Lose8, Lose10..

oficial Github location.

https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases

here is a comparison of antispy tools .

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/

 

Have you tried any of these yet. Was wondering if it installed any other junk / spam ?

 

do not spy 10 installed on win7..Pay attention when installing as usual to avoid any bundled stuff.

Destroy Win10 spying installs with nothing extra, but does not show many options..Click and it deletes the spyware.

shut up 10 will not even install on win7.

DoNotSpy 10 looks the best to me so far

 

Software from github is installed on all my win10 and almost all win7-8 PC's now. No side effects )

 

^^ since I used this software from github I have on one win7 pc the problem, after the boot the password login is prefilled, like if a key is stuck. But I can easily replace it with the right password and login.

 

I've seen this behavior on my lenovo miix 2 tablet (win10) even before github software installation

 

Check this out by Matrix Leader. Very good guide for installing W10
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/

He also has a guide for W7 install

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-7-clean-installation-guide.781213/unread

 

I have found that the Microsoft game zone will not work with the edge browser and I have had 2 laptops come to me with inop keyboards. One had disabled the board and was easy to fix but the other was a Lenovo T500 and it slowly failed all the while showing the keyboard was installed and functioning correctly.

Reinstalled Win 7 and it was fine.

 

this is a list of the stuff that "do not spy" deals with .

• • Disable Telemetry
  • Disable Biometrics
  • Disable Handwriting Data Sharing
  • Disable Handwriting Error Reporting
  • Disable Application Telemetry
  • Disable Inventory Collector
  • Disable Steps Recorder
  • Disable enabling Lock Screen Camera
  • Disable and Reset Cortana
  • Disable Location
  • Disable Sensors
  • Disable Web Search
  • Disable Windows Media DRM Internet Access
  • Defer Windows Upgrades
  • Disable App Notifications
  • Disable Password Reveal Button
  • Disable and Reset Advertising ID
  • Disable SmartScreen Filter for URLs
  • Disable Sending Writing Info
  • Disable Access to Language List
  • Disable App Access to Location Info
  • Disable App Access to Camera
  • Disable App Access to Microphone
  • Disable Getting to know me
  • Disable App Access to Account Info
  • Disable App Access to Calendar
  • Disable App Access to Messages
  • Disable App Access to Radios
  • Disable Sync With Devices
  • Disable Windows Feedback Requestes
  • Disable Windows Update Sharing
  • Disable Windows Update for other Products
  • Disable WiFi Sense
  • Disable Windows Defender
  • Disable Automatic Windows Updates
  • Disable OneDrive
  • Disable Automatic Driver Update
  • Disable Automatic Windows Store Updates *new*
  • Enable Do not Track in Edge *new*
  • Disable Malicious Software Removal Tool via Windows Update *new*
  • Disable KMS Client Online Validation *new*
  • Disable Retrieving Device Metadata *new*
  • Disable Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program *new*

it seems to me that there are many things that one might want to leave "on" that really have nothing to do with the sneakware that windows is foisting upon the unwary .
a current and concise list of those things directly related to the general topic and bent of this thread might be a good thing to include .
M$ keeps piling the crapware on ...
having an up to date list would be an asset .

 

I was thinking the same as Larry,
These"privacy restoration apps" seem aggressive...For example : I am not sure how disabling Windows defender protects my privacy?

 

Check this out...MS in some hot water

www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/analysis/2425886/windows-10-updategate-microsoft-stays-tightlipped-as-the-world-rages

microsoftclassactionlawsuit.com/

 

You gotta read this. It is long but we'll worth the read...

blog.emsisoft.com/2015/09/02/the-truth-about-windows-10-spying-on-almost-everything-you-do/

 

Great reads...thanks Blair........

 

here's a tid-bit from the last link :
KB3021917, KB2990214, KB305583, KB3022345, KB2952664, KB2952664, KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3068708
these are *updates* not directly tied to W10 but rather , by design , allow *spying* .
remove these updates , pull through and have less of a McWindows day .

i bet dollars to donuts that more *crap* will fall out when the tree is shook harder .

 

The big thing now is they don't tell you what all these updates do.

 

To bad there is not a way to tell Microsoft to FOAD with this Windows 10 update cr*p. I have had KB3035583 come back twice now after uninstalling and hiding it. Also, KB2952664 installation fails, though I now know I don't want it. It also keeps coming back after hiding it. A new update showed up today, KB3083710. It's purpose is "update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows".

 

I completely disabled MS updates...
I just update Comodo Firewall/antivirus daily and ignore MS..

 

So what do you all think of this...

Privacy -If the enforcement policies were tough, however, they have nothing on the privacy violations Microsoft requests in the Windows 10 EULA. A notable section reads

“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.”

 

I read that somewhere else...pretty scarey stuff..
Microsoft ...in good faith..That's funny...

 

Her are a few things to read if you are going to install Web. You must agree to this to use Web or it will not work.....Thanks "Brainout" for this........
Don't forget paragraphs 2 and 3 of aka.ms/msa in Paragraph 1bi and 14 of the EULA, a link you must paste in a browser to read, even though you can't have a browser until after you've installed and therefore accepted the EULA unread!-- which grants MSFT sovereignty even your own nation will not exert over you (bolding added, in the quote):
Microsoft Services Agreement Paragraph 2 wrote:

To the extent necessary to provide the Services to you and others, to protect you and the Services, and to improve Microsoft products and services, you grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content, for example, to make copies of, retain, transmit, reformat, display, and distribute via communication tools Your Content on the Services. If you publish Your Content in areas of the Service where it is available broadly online without restrictions, Your Content may appear in demonstrations or materials that promote the Service.

Now, ask yourself this question: what private content on your machine could ever be needed for Microsoft's own services? MSFT has no right to access my or my clients' tax returns which I did on my machine. Nor, any of my emails. Nor, any of my other stuff I do on that machine which is NOT related to browsing on the internet. So this is one big data slurp which can kill me and my contacts at any time! Google restricts its usage to online content. But MSFT invades my HOME and small business??!

Read with it, the aka.ms/privacy which is Paragraph 3 and 14 of the EULA, which reads (third physical paragraph
visible only after you click 'Learn More'),
Reasons We Share Personal Data wrote:
"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary”
Then, the kicker, "Microsoft Services Agreement Paragraph 3"Colors added, but bolding is in the original: notice how the red terms are not defined, not subordinated to duly constituted legal authority, so then MSFT is asserting suzerainty over you as if it was your country instead. Notice also that MSFT itself is breaking every term in red itself, by what it collects. Notice also how a great deal of innocent activity could be misconstrued, as in the movie Brazil (Buttle instead of Tuttle), but most of all, how there is NO DUE PROCESS to establish guilt or innocence or even the definitions of what might constitute infractions. Totally unconstitutional.

The brown terms are where MSFT itself asserts enforcement rights. As in, brown shirts. For the action is arbitrary and capricious (legal term meaning abuse of a fiduciary responsibility), and above all, UNILATERAL. Again, bypassing due process of law.

Microsoft Services Agreement Paragraph 3 wrote:
3. Code of Conduct.

a. By agreeing to these Terms, you’re agreeing that, when using the Services, you will follow these rules:
i. Don’t do anything illegal.
ii. Don’t engage in any activity that exploits, harms, orthreatens to harm children.
iii. Don’t send spam. Spam is unwanted or unsolicited bulk email, postings, contact requests, SMS (text messages), or instant messages.
iv. Don’t publicly display or use the Services to shareinappropriate Content or material (involving, for example,nudity, bestiality, pornography, graphic violence, or criminal activity).
v. Don’t engage in activity that is false or misleading (e.g., asking for money under false pretenses, impersonating someone else, manipulating the Services to increase play count, or affect rankings, ratings, or comments).
vi. Don’t circumvent any restrictions on access to or availability of the Services.
vii. Don’t engage in activity that is harmful to you, the Services, or others (e.g., transmitting viruses, stalking,communicating hate speech, or advocating violence against others).
viii. Don’t infringe upon the rights of others (e.g.,unauthorized sharing of copyrighted music or other copyrighted material, resale or other distribution of Bing maps, or photographs).
ix. Don’t engage in activity that violates the privacy of others.
x. Don’t help others break these rules.

b. Enforcement. If you violate these Terms, we may stop providing Services to you or we may close your Microsoft account or Skype account. We may also block delivery of a communication (like email or instant message) to or from the Services in an effort to enforce these Terms or we may remove or refuse to publish Your Content for any reason. When investigating alleged violations of these Terms, Microsoft reserves the right to review Your Content in order to resolve the issue. However, we cannot monitor the entire Services and make no attempt to do so.

So notice: registry hacks or GPO settings to recapture privacy, since they are NOT the defaults in MSFT, could be construed to violate Paragraph 3's "vi. Don’t circumvent any restrictions on access to or availability of the Services." Ooops. EULA violated, now MSFT can do the brown stuff. Bork your OS.

This is why I'm so adamant and witchy in that ZDnet article,accusing Ed Bott. He glosses over all this. It's in print, for crying out loud, and he denies it? MSFT does nothing, none of the pundits call attention to this, they all gloss over it? NOT TIN FOIL, k, to wonder why all this silence over language you see yourself, violates your citizenship rights and that of your nation, as well?

One dingdong in that article who can't read very well, kept on saying that since 'the Services' meant only certain things here, that it wasn't an issue. Really? First of all, he ignores the beginning of the EULA, which reads, in the first three paragraphs (on your root Windows/System32/license.rtf), with color added, black bolding native to the doc:


Microsoft Licensing Agreement wrote:
Depending on how you obtained the Windows software, this is a license agreement between (i) you and the device manufacturer or software installer that distributes the software with your device; or (ii) you and Microsoft Corporation (or, based on where you live or if a business where your principal place of business is located, one of its affiliates) if you acquired the software from a retailer. Microsoft is the device manufacturer for devices produced by Microsoft or one of its affiliates, and Microsoft is the retailer if you acquired the software directly from Microsoft.

This agreement describes your rights and the conditions upon which you may use the Windows software. You should review the entire agreement, including any supplemental license terms that accompany the software and any linked terms, because all of the terms are important and together create this agreement that applies to you. You can review linked terms by pasting the (aka.ms/) link into a browser window.

By accepting this agreement or using the software, you agree to all of these terms, and consent to the transmission of certain information during activation and during your use of the software as per the privacy statement described in Section 3. If you do not accept and comply with these terms, you may not use the software or its features. You may contact the device manufacturer or installer, or your retailer if you purchased the software directly, to determine its return policy and return the software or device for a refund or credit under that policy. You must comply with that policy, which might require you to return the software with the entire device on which the software is installed for a refund or credit, if any.

So you have to agree to ALL of the terms even if you don't use the services. In other words, the services aren't alone 'covered' by Paragraph 3, but EVERYTHING, since you must agree to ALL of it, even if you don't use the listed services. Putting the aka.ms/msa in Paragraph 14 of the EULA is the clincher, as it's made severally there part of the ENTIRE Agreement, alone with aka.ms/privacy . For they are separately listed in Paragraph 1b.(i) and 3, respectively. So if not meant to be TOTAL pan-Agreement, then they shouldn't be affirmatively listed in Paragraph 14, too.

Secondly, and bigger, is that the 'Services' and 'Service' are used interchangeably. Then, when you look more closely at the 'Services', you find Bing among them, which is the heart of Cortana, and your own searching on your own machine is run by Bing, not merely for the internet. So what, you must avoid searching on your own machine, to avoid Paragraph 3? You certainly have to avoid Edge, IE11, and Cortana!

So you see, sly clever language ends up meaning your entire OS is borked by the brown shirts who unilaterally decide with NO DEFINITION GIVEN TO YOU IN THE EULA, all that red stuff. Which, your own country has the right to adjudicate, not MSFT, and certainly no arbitration board!

But oh the MS fanboys will call us tin-foil nutters, to demand due process of law instead? What, do we need an American Revolution again, this time fighting MSFT instead of George III?

It's not possible to say anything good about MSFT so long as Paragraph 3 exists. It's this paragraph which essentially justifies and even mandates they snoop on ALL the activity on your computer, ALL the data in and cycling through it, private and online, in order to ENFORCE paragraph 3.

Pox on Ed Bott and all the MS fanboys for glossing over it. Paragraph 3 bypasses due process of law. So very simply, NO DO NOT GET WINDOWS 10 until this heinous EULA is corrected. And if not corrected, you harm anyone with whom you correspond, compromising THEIR data, so long as you use Windows 10.

 

In my opinion this is going to end up in the Supreme Court. In the USA anyway. There has to be a lawsuit in the works somewhere.

 

The thing is how many computer users really known anything about a computer. My cousin called me last week to come down and fix his laptop. I ask him what's wrong...he could not get on Facebook . What he knows about a laptop is where the power button is and the Facebook shortcut is....that's it. They are so many users like him it's not funny but M$ loves it . They can feed them anything and they will eat it right up.

 

"The thing is how many computer users really known anything about a computer."

add to this :
"how many people know anything about laws and rights" ?

 

I thought I posted this some time ago. This was written by one of our mods. When ever W7 sends out updates and he finds questionable updates he adds them to the program so its always up to date. The one thing I did notice is it downgrades you to Internet Explorer 9 which I find runs better anyways. If you want to find out more about this go here forum.notebookreview.com/threads/updates-to-hide-to-prevent-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

 

about that batch file ...
i go to the site and it downloads the list instead of a zip file .
perhaps some instructions for those that do not know how to run a batch file would be helpful .

 

I need to run it later on tonight since it's been a few weeks since I last done it. Will let you know.

 

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Check out the pictures above. Download the file . Right click on the file and run as Administrator and wait for the on screen message to display that all updates have been uninstalled.

Reboot after that and search for Windows updates again, once you see them bad updates re-appear, just right click on them and select HIDE from the context menu.

 

I missed one picture and It would not let me edit/add to that post so here it is

 

FYI...I run it today and it took about 4 minutes but I have run it about 4 times now so it will take you longer.

 

from here.... http://www.hd.engadget.com/2015/11/05/pc-support-discourages-using-windows-10/

You may have upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as humanly possible, but don't tell that to your PC manufacturer. As part of its tech support research, Laptop has learned that at least Dell and HP are discouraging customers from updating to Windows 10, or even recommending that people roll back to older versions. When asked, both companies defend the practice. They're committed to Windows 10, but their ultimate goal on a support line is to fix your PC... even if that means reverting to old software.

 

Windows NSA version??

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2009/11/nsa_microsoft_windows_7.html

 

Boy is that a slap in M$ face...looks good on them

 

It sure is..

 

More NSA and Windows ties.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...it/nsa-helped-with-windows-7-development.html

NSA has total access to Windows computers.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-total-access-via-microsoft-windows/

 

Unfortunately I'm going to need to install it on something so I can learn the system. Just worked on a Win 10 laptop and it sucked.

 

I don't understand ?? M$ says it's the best thing since sliced bread

 

Yepper,sliced,moldy old bread. Anyway,I installed Windows 10 on a CF-52E tonight and will take a look at it soon. I noticed one thing in that it seems to make more sense out of the box then 8.1,the one I worked on yesterday didn't as they seem to have changed a bunch of settings.

 

It's time to upgrade anyway. Best Windows OS for newer toughbooks

 

Major update today - Threshold 2.
It's now even more convenient for use on toughbooks

 

I detect sarcasm in the air....

 

No, I really think Win10 is the best Windows OS ever.
At least for my 19 MK5.
Today I've completely disabled Panasonic wireless switch utility because Win10 now has it's own (more handy) tools. Etc
Look at this panels, virtual desktops. Everything is eye and touch friendly

 

I can never tell with you......