Your Toughbook and W10...Things you need to know

So what software are you running to keep them from seeing all your passwords, emails and other private stuff you have on your hdd ??

 

Destroy Windows 10 Spying...
This one works on Win 7 Win8 and Win10.

 

The #1 for W10 www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far.
Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated.
O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days!

 

Thanks, Shawn
The main idea I repeat is
M icrosoft started spying users with all versions of Windows.
So your private info is not 100% safe in all modern Windows systems. That's why I think there is a sense to use most comfortable OS. With or without "shields"

 

Win10/32 slowed my Toughbook CF-30 down to a crawl with all the junk running in the background. I went back to Win 7/32 and prefer it. I don't have a touch screen, which is the reason date for Win8/8.1, Win 10 IMO on laptops. With the effective 3.6 Gig memory, the CF-30 operates much faster on Win7/32 by the free on-line test. YMMV.

PS: My laptop was purchased at a police auction for $20 (!!!!) after a female officer fractured the skull of a guy she was trying to take into the jail and he tried to run. Toughbook ran fine! New app for Toughbooks....

 

Haven't tried W10 on my CF-30 mk2 (it is currently out of country) but when I did upgrade my CF-30 to Windows 8.1 it seemed to run even faster than it used to (Admittedly I have a habit of disabling all junk running that I don't need). I was also surprised how automatic the process was, almost everything seemed to work out of the box with Windows drivers. As long as you replaced the horrible UI it was nice and clean. That being said, I installed W8 as a clean install, and not as an upgrade from W7.

Installing W8/10 on the CF-31 was much harder in comparison, and required more fishing for drivers.

-T

 

Welcome to the Panasonic Toughbook forum

I think that was a very smart move. I have W7 on my 30 too and it runs very good.

 

Anonymous Win7holics ))

 

ya got it backwards .

 

from here https://billstclair.com/theclairefiles.com/ms12steps.html


By Debra Ricketts and Claire Wolfe Originally published by Sierra Times

A terrible addiction grips the world. It invades the most respectable middle-class homes and offices. It causes untold havoc. Yet, in this era when enlightened people understand that even coffee drinking ("caffeine use disorder") can be a serious disability, this addiction goes unrecognized and untreated.


We speak of Microsoft addiction -- a dependency that costs its victims billions, first to buy the products to feed their habits, then in damage done by opportunistic viruses that prey on MS-weakened systems.

What is Microsoft addiction? It is hopeless dependence on a computer operating system that is more insecure than a junkie in a room full of narcs and more expensive than a hit of heroin. In the end, this addiction strips its users of all privacy and independence. This operating system is controlled by a ruthless multinational software cartel. Once you're caught in their .net like a drowning dolphin, Microsoft pushers know they can hook you on even more expensive software. Soon, you're mainlining the hard stuff … stuff like the infamous M$ Office XP -- a program that not only costs more than XTC or cocaine, but reports your activities to your pusher, and demands that you get permission to "reactivate" the software simply because you dare to make changes in your system.

The M$ message: We own your computer. We own you. And your little dog, too.

Until now, the future has looked bleak for the ordinary victim hooked on Microsoft. But today, thousands are breaking free -- and so can you! -- thanks to the 12-step program of Microsoft Anonymous.

Follow these steps and, though you may never be fully cured of Microsoft addiction, you will walk the road of recovery.

The 12 Steps to Microsoft Recovery

1. We admitted we were powerless over Microsoft -- that our privacy had become negligible.

Microsoft's licensing agreements let the software cartel bust into your computer at any time. Microsoft lets its friends in, too. Privacy groups have found hidden keys within Windows -- including one which may be for the exclusive use of the National Security Agency (NSA).

What Bill Gates doesn't do to you, some script kiddie will. There are more holes in Microsoft software than in a heroin addict's clammy gray flesh. Worms and viruses ooze through them like HIV through a dirty needle.

2. We came to believe that a different operating system could restore us to sanity.

Linux (especially the easy-to-install Mandrake 8.1 or Red Hat 7.2) can lift even the most hopeless Microsoft-head into a world of privacy and stability -- and do it right on the same PC that now shares your Microsoft habit with you.

Free your mind and body. Free your finances, too. Linux costs way less than your next hit of Windows. Some versions don't cost a thing.

3. We made a decision to turn our computer systems over to Tux as we understood him.

At first, we considered learning Urdu in order to read some of the manuals, but then decided to trust our instincts and that friendly Linux penguin.

Graphical "desktops" like KDE and Gnome, which come with Linux, comforted us with familiar point-and-click, drag-and-drop, pop-up menus, and other things to help us on our road to recovery. They even gave us "Redmond-style" graphical themes, helping us break our Windows habit like Antabuse helps a wavering alcoholic.

4. We made a searching and fearless inventory of our applications and data files.

We understood that recovering from our Microsoft addiction might mean reformatting some of our data, surrendering familiar programs, and finding Linux equivalents. Fortunately, many distributions (brands) of Linux come with full office suites, Web browsers, e-mail programs, and everything we needed to get us going -- all at no extra cost. Even the most vital applications of all -- games.

Many Linux applications, like StarOffice, can convert and share data freely with their M$ equivalents. (Bill Gates, watch us break your hold even while those with whom we share data remain hooked!)

5. We admitted to tech support, to ourselves, and to another Linux newbie the exact nature of our misgivings.

Before buying, we visited Linux Newbie.org and LinuxChix.org. We asked questions on their listservs about the Linux distributions other newcomers have tried and the pitfalls they'd encountered. Others in Microsoft recovery gave generously of their time and advice.

We asked experienced Linux gurus, too. But they mostly said things like "grep" and "tar -xvjf." We feared that "bunzip2" might be something dangerously kinky. We turned away when they asked about our boot sector partitions. (Some people just don't know when they're undermining the recovery process).

6. We were entirely ready to have Linux remove all those cookies, GUIDs, and trojan horses from our systems.

We prepared carefully for our first installation, had a good backup of our existing Windows system, and made sure that all our hardware was Linux compatible. We accepted that it wasn't always going to be easy, but that in the end it was going to free us from Microserfdom.

7. We humbly installed the operating system.

It turned out to be easier than we thought. Many Linux distributors now beckon weary Windows users with easy installation wizards and automatic hardware recognition -- the very temptations that first drove many of us into the clutches of Microsoft.

But some of us still chickened out and bought a computer with Linux already installed.

8. We made a list of all the software we used and became willing to use alternatives.

Some of us decided we needed a dual-boot system, with both Linux and Windows on it, because critical software was available only under Windows. But we resisted remaining Windows dependent.

We used Linux for a task any time we possibly could. The more we used Linux, the easier it became. The more we used Windows … well, when you find yourself insisting, "I can turn off Windows any time I want. Really I can" … you should be worried. Be very, very worried.

9. We downloaded alternative software where possible, but never a Microsoft product.

Linux isn't just for techies any more. But now that IBM, Hewlett-Packard, the NSA, and yes, even Microsoft, are getting on the Linux wagon, beware. We continue to avoid products from companies with a history of snooping into our computers and our e-mail.

When we became truly advanced in our paranoia, we even downloaded Tinfoil Hat Linux.

10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were leaving security holes, promptly repaired them.

Linux, being open source, can be examined by any software engineer to make sure it has no hidden security holes -- unlike Microsoft, whose owners hide its code like Columbian drug traffickers hide their profits in Cayman Island banks.

Linux is harder for crackers to target. And if you're worried about another sort of cracker -- the government or corporate kind -- think about this. Those "key loggers" or keystroke monitoring programs? Virtually every one of them works only with Windows -- and against Windows users.

Still, we diligently research before installing upgrades, and we regularly read electronic privacy e-mail alerts.

11. We sought through user groups, books, whitepapers, and HOWTOS to improve our conscious knowledge of Linux, searching only for understanding and the power to improve data security, system stability, and personal freedom.

We told ourselves, "Even if the manual is written in an obscure French-Ecuadorian dialect of Swahili, it's worth the effort."

Increasingly, Web sites, books, and manuals for new users led us along our way. Listservs dedicated to our chosen distributions offered answers to our questions. We persevered, helped by those who'd gone before.

12. Having had a computational awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Window users and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

And that's what we're doing right now.

Sometimes, you have to hit bottom before you're ready for recovery. Remember us the next time your screen turns that funny blue color, and pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL for an hour only gives you blisters on your fingers. Remember us next time your data ends up in an FBI dossier. Remember us next time some 13-year-old called H@ckWit infects your Microsoft Outlook with a virus that converts your hard drive into strawberry Jell-o.

You will be among friends at Microsoft Anonymous.

-----

 

That was good but sadly it's kinda true for some.

 

no foolin ...
may people just "burr up" at the thought of using anything but M$ .
some simply refuse to even entertain the idea while others whine and snivel about how "it's too hard to learn" or "it took me years to learn how to run M$ stuff ... i aint learning all over" .
still , many of these same individuals pitch a fit about the sorry state of M$ affairs , invasion of privacy and other assorted gum-flapping all while being fully aware that in 10 minutes they will be drinking the M$ kool-aid .
and why ? the list spans M$ proprietary formats to a plethora of programs that have not been ported to a 'nix operating system .
this is much like the alcoholic that sits on a barstool crying and bemoaning his entrapment with no possible way out .

 

Interestingly, back in the days when this was written, (the Mandrake era) Linux was my primary operating system for work. The only times I bothered firing up a virtual machine with Windows was when I needed to edit a file in Microsoft Project. (sucks) The rest I could do in StarOffice.

That was 15 years ago, and since then I find that PIM capabilities and integrated desktop experience for Linux has taken a step backwards. (While MS has at least been able to keep the Status Quo.) As a result I have ended up using Microsoft Office. For all its deficiencies I find there is no simpler way to process and move information around for day to day use. I'll be very happy the day when this is no longer the case.

-T

 

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...t-support-windows-10-new-hardware-itbwcw.html

Read this

 

I heard about this last week. M$ is getting desperate and this is just another way to get us to switch to W10.

 

It does reek of desperation..

There has to be some motivation that we don't know about for the total push to Win10. I don't understand it all. I mean they already retrofitted the spyware into Win8 and Win7.
I would like to think Microshaft is shooting itself in the foot, but way too many sheepeople drank the FREE OS from M$ Koolaid.
I guess the marketing department at Microshaft took lessons from heroin dealers. Give it away for free for a "trial" period. Then once they are addicted, hose the victims big time.

 

yeah ...
has anyone noticed how cut-throat M$ has gotten since uncle bill split the scene ?
it has taken some time but they have indeed arrived .
by getting the cpu and other hardware manufacturers in bed together an environment that smacks of the old "protection racket" has evolved .
one could also draw an analogy to all the senators that stabbed brutus ... safety in numbers .... et tu brute ?

this smacks of racketeering and strong-arm tactics .
to come right out and (effectively) say that they have all been party to (essentially) collusion shows how "above the law" they take themselves to be .

MS can do this because it is the software that the consumers all use equally ... not the hardware .
this gives them leverage and make no mistake ... there is only one outfit bigger than them ... the government ...
but virtually all of the government's computers run (guess what) ... windows !
so what is going on is that there is a circle-jer* with all of the aforementioned parties participating .

--- absolute power corrupts absolutely ---

 

Very well put Larry.

 

Yes and it will be that way with the ones "who don't know better" or that there "is" alternatives with out swapping to the other flavor of koolaid (apple). But for those of us who really know what choice is.

 

Really M$ can't do anything right. Did you hear about the Surface Book and Pro 4 flaws. They new they were problems with them but shipped them out to customers anyways. www.techradar.com/us/news/mobile-computing/tablets/microsoft-apologises-over-surface-book-and-surface-pro-4-flaws-1311096

 

http://lifehacker.com/windows-10-is...rce=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Windows 10 will now be downloaded automatically as an important update. Say what?

 

I figured this was coming...

I cured this problem with my machines a while back. Solution is in this thread.

 

Great news....not. There is going to be a lot of ticked off computer users for sure

 

I make a lot of money rolling back Windows 10,average age here is 52 so you know there are a lot of seniors and they hate it.

 

Automatic updates = off

 

"Laces out!" (Ace Ventura) ))

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/enabling-godmode-windows-10

 

I feel sorry for the older user. I had to fix 2 family members laptop so far. Back a few months ago MS messed up and W10 was installed on there 8.1 laptop. There laptops were 2-3 years old and totally messed it up. MS said it was a mistake. ..right . If it's a older laptop chances are you are going to have problems.

 

Microsoft cares of IT professionals income )

 

Bumping this thread @Toughbook


O&O shutup does clean things up better. It describes everything it does.

Running UWT afterwards allows you to customize a bit.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-4-windows-10

Run O&O again after a reboot or 2 as Win 10 resets stuff.

Decent comparison.
https://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/

 

Just wanted to ask, since currently I'm not a windows user. Concerning this thing posted above:
The #1 for W10 www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
This shut up software, can it be downloaded and put on a usb?
Can it then be run on a system without the internet?
I'm thinking of playing with Windows 10 but all the stuff above scares me.
I've been spoiled by Linux since 2010 and I know it.
The maps and some other features noted in another thread are tempting.
Thinking of some windows dabbling over the next 5 week work cycle.

 

Don't worry young grasshopper, I will take care of you.

I am working on a pre cleaned win 10 recovery/install usb for cf 19 mk6.

It will need to be activated with your win key from the bottom of the cf 19.

32gb usb stick

go PM for more details

Yes O&O can be run from usb.
All these tweaks were done before I connected to the WWW.
I even installed Comodo AV from usb stick.

 

WOW! First thoughts....



Perhaps I will steer clear now. I have MX16 and Zorin in the mix... I think I'll stay with W7 until I die... or it does....

Maybe Linux in between.... If I live that long!

 

Once you "adjust/tweak" Win 10 it is not bad. It is quicker using win 10 compared to win 7 on a CF19.
It is much more modern. It is also designed for touchscreens.
There is a learning curve and the privacy issues need to be dealt with.
Not sure the mapping app is enough for me, but that is another story.
I will keep win 10 on the CF 19mk 6

 

Shawn... I plan on trying Windows 10 on the new CF-31 Mk2 I am building. The only way I have to install Windows 10 at this point is to install W7 first... And then do the upgrade. After reading this thread and finding out that M$ has been installing spy stuff on my W7... I figured I might as well upgrade and then just take care of it all with W10.

You said you do all your tweaks before you hit the www... Do you have a W10 install disk?

 

That is true. Don't you just love MS. There is a list of 'kb's/updates" to stay away from. They are doing this because they are not getting enough users on W10. MS has spent billions on these "farms" to store all this info they are stealing from W7 and W10 users. Thinking about what they are doing to the PC really ticks me off.

 

Thus why I'm running Peppermint 8 on my CF-19Mk4 and dual boot on my desktop.

Bidding on 2 core i3 CF-31's and if I get one, it will run Peppermint also. The hell with Microsoft.

 

I think I may just scrap Windows and try Linux for a while. I guess the only way I will find out if it will work for what I need is if I try!

The only issues I foresee is logging into my work VPN via Citrix...

 

Yes I have an iso and or a usb stick

 

Rick,
I use MX-16 every day logging in to Citrix receiver to go to my company site.
It's seemless and now the newer distributions don't need any tweaks for me.
Other than changing your permissions for security in your browser it's very doable.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

 

Okay... I've been doing more reading and now I am even more confused. Some people say that you should keep a list of updates that you DO NOT download to begin with. Some say that W10 will sometimes sneak these in and install them anyway... Then you have to uninstall them.

Other say to go ahead and install everything and then use one of the programs listed here to remove, and keep removed, the unwanted programs. This is probably what I will do. I want/need to do a few machines with W10. Plus I'd like to explore the new OS... Safely, of course.

Thoughts?

 

Once I get Win 10 drive fully loaded, and I am ok with it, I would not bother with updates.
Trust the antivirus.

 

So.. The bunch of updates I download prior to having access to the W10 update aren't an issue?

 

Good addition

 

Rick,
PM me an address. I will send you a usb stick.

 

"Plus I'd like to explore the new OS... Safely, of course."
yeah ... sort of like a new girlfriend ...
there is a limit to safety and sometimes , exploration is over-rated .

 

After being out in the dating world again after 20 years, I was surprised when my 83 year old mom asked me if I carry protection.

After thinking about this for a second... I assured her that I always carry my 9mm with a round in the chamber!