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    can a cf-30 use a 4g LTE network chip?

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by Matt Kahle, May 30, 2014.

  1. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is it possible to swap out the 3g integrated chip
    from the cf-30 and replace it with a mc-7750?

    I've been reading and thinking about doing
    this and just not sure if it will work. Now
    I only see one post about some one asking
    about doing this and the answer is just a "NO".
    My question then is why?

    Now the reason I picked the mc-7750 is that
    the cf-19 has that chip in it.

    From what I under stand from reading and I'm sorry
    if I'm wrong, the earlier mrk's had comparable chips
    for the cf-19 and the cf-30 at lest I think so...

    I have a gobi 2000 and my laptop is a mrk3.
     
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    snafu168 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't know if this will help or not.
    For what it's worth, I have a CF-19 mk3. As far as I know and understand, the 19 and 30 parallel each other in many ways.

    From almost everything I read 4G was not supposed to be possible. It took a couple of weeks of tinkering to get it right, but I got a MC7700 to work, on 4G, using a prepaid SIM no less.

    The reason I went with the MC7700 was because of my intent to use a AT&T SIM from StraightTalk prepaid (Walmart's relative of TracPhone and Net10. $45/mo for "unlimited" data throttled after 3Gb), and I got a great deal on the module on eBay.

    The Sierra Watcher program perpetually says it's attempting to connect, but the network connections show as connected and the ability to load web pages with the WLAN disabled proves it.

    The hardest part was finding drivers that would work.

    On top of everything else, I complicated things by using the prepaid SIM, and I upgraded the firmware before I had all of the drivers working.

    It may have actually been working a couple of days (maybe an hour a day of attempts) after I started, but I didn't know about the Watcher issue so I thought it just wasn't connecting, and tried to dig deeper than I may have needed to.
     
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    I just saw your other post regarding 32 vs 64 bit OS
    I'm running Win7 x64 Ultimate, 8Gb RAM no issues. Just took some time and patience.
     
  4. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well that's good that you got
    the MC7700 to work.

    I'm looking to using verizon
    because I'm going to get
    a plan with them for a phone.

    From what I'm reading on the
    web is that the MC7750 is
    the best for using verizon.

    Where did you find the
    drivers for the MC7700?

    I was rethinking about
    the chip types. I think
    I would want another
    gobo chip probably the
    gobi 4000 if I could find
    the drivers and I would
    need to do more research.

    Thing is I hate the program
    watcher I had a mrk1 cf-30
    for a little time. I never used
    the 3g network but, the program
    always crashed every time
    I started the computer.

    What I really need is a chip
    that's friendly with the
    cf-30.
     
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  6. Matt Kahle

    Matt Kahle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well yeah I do but, he said
    he had a hard time finding
    drivers that would work.

    Panasonic doesn't
    support the cf-30 for 4g
    or LTE.

    So getting any 4g chip
    to work will be a big plus.

    In a week or two I want
    to start this project when
    I get the cash and the
    time. I think I will do some
    more reading on the gobi
    chips.
     
  7. snafu168

    snafu168 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The Panasonic drivers wouldn't allow installation on a CF-19 mk3, But I did use the Watcher from there. I upgraded the firmware using the most current release from Sierra's website.

    The problem was that there was one part that just wouldn't install and showed with the yellow exclamation mark in the device manager, I was able to manually install the driver, but it took a lot of trial and error and what seemed like forever to find the right one.

    I don't remember exactly where I was able to find a working driver package. I had to look a lot of places.I think was either from Fujitsu's support site or buried somewhere on Toughbooktalk.com
     
  8. Matt Kahle

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    Yeah that's what I thought panaconic is really
    something don't get me going on them.

    I'm really not a expert on the different chip
    types. So what's the difference between
    the MC7700 and the MC7750.

    I have another question what's the differents
    between my CF-30 mrk3 and your CF-19 mrk3?

    I'm wondering if the motherboards are different.

    I think the chips are compatible but drivers are not.
     
  9. snafu168

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    I don't have anything against Panasonic. They didn't design these to be consumer level user friendly, and with the feature set of the Toughbooks come their associated difficulties.
    I've used them for years at work, but I have only gotten into having one of my own and *really* getting to know them for a few months.

    As far as the difference between the MC7700 and MC7750, I think it only has to do with carrier certification. The MC7750 is specific to Verizon, MC7710 is for T-Mo, and the MC7700 is for almost everyone else.
    AirPrime Module Specs

    As far as the motherboards being the same, I'm uncertain. I do know that most of the drivers are the same, as you can see here: Windows® 7 Support and Upgrade Information | TOUGHBOOK | TOUGHPAD | Panasonic Global Notebook PC
     
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  10. Matt Kahle

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    Well I guess I worded that wrong I really don't
    have anything ageist them. I'm just a little up
    set about how they support there products
    as in drivers and there network chips.

    Well don't get me wrong I really love there
    products as you said "They didn't design
    these to be consumer level user friendly"
    your right about that.

    What is your opinion on Qualcomm's
    gobi chips? Would they be easier to
    work with as in for setting up drivers?
     
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    Just installed them (MC7700 drivers from Panasonic) for a test - no problem. CF-19 MK4.
    MC7700 = Gobi 4000.
     
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    Motherboards are very different between the cf19 and cf30
     
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    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    CF19 motherboard

    [​IMG]

    Cf30 Motherboard

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Matt Kahle

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    Yeah okay the board's are really
    different. I'm just hoping this will
    work.

    Oh thanks for clearing up that the
    MC7700 is gobi I'm still learning a
    lot. Theres so many types of chips
    to remember and it is hard.
     
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    I have no idea really, this is my first adventure into Toughbook WWAN.
     
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    Nice. When I attempt to install the driver package download from Panasonic on my mk3 it give the error message, "This machine does NOT support."
    MC7700 Driver Error.png
     
  17. Matt Kahle

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    Well thats something ;)

    I think I'm going for the
    MC7700 I'm checking
    for drivers first.
     
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    I took a 7735 iirc and extracted the panasonic drivers for the 19-mk7 got them installed on my mk5 and a bit of tinkering and hey presto, it worked!

    What kind of operating system are you using? Try to find the right driver/os/modem model combination and try that one!

    One thing, unzip the drivers, do not try to install them from the file themselves.
     
  20. Matt Kahle

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    I have windows 32bit pro.

    Are you saying I should
    unzip them and load them
    through devise manager?