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    cf-29 internal gps

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by roversam, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. roversam

    roversam Newbie

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    Hey everyone i am new here but am in need of some help. I got a cf-29 off of ebay about 6/8 months ago and love it. but i have been trying to get the gps in it to work and cant seam to do so. could someone please help. i have tried to do what panasonic says to do but cant seam to get anything to happen. thanks for any help. I just need to get this working for a trip down Baja Ca. here in a few mounths.

    Sam
     
  2. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    Please post your full model # and tell us what you have done try and enable the gps.
     
  3. roversam

    roversam Newbie

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    cf-29L5LGPBM is the model number on my laptop and on the panasonic website they instructed me to go to the hyper terminal and set it to 4800 and then i should see scroling data but i had no such luck.
     
  4. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    4800 is the correct Baud rate. I am not sure what com port the factory gps is on. Go into bios and see it the GPS is listed and then if it is enabled and disabled. Did you ever have the jumping mouse problem on the screen?

    Model Number:CF-29L5LGPBM

    Intel Pentium M 778 1.6GHzLV (Centrino),13.3" NON Touch XGA,256MB,60GB, Intel 802.11a+b+g, WIN XP SP2, GPS, Verizon EVDO, Dual Pass Through, No Drive

    By your model number you should have GPS.
     
  5. roversam

    roversam Newbie

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    Thank you so far for your help, yes it is disabled in the bios but could not seam to change it do you know how i can enable it? thanks again for you help.

    Sam
     
  6. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    Sam:

    Model Number: CF-29L5LGPBM (Mk4)
    Status: DISCONTINUED
    MSRP: $5,439
    Description: Intel® Pentium M 778 1.6GHz LV (Centrino),13.3" XGA NON Touch Screen, 256MB RAM, 60GB HDD, Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG 802.11 a+b+g WLAN, Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional w/Service Pack 2, GPS, Verizon EVDO WWAN, Dual Hi-Gain Antenna Pass Through Connectors, No Optical Drive

    You probably want to look into this patch utility:

    Category: Application and Utility
    Title: GPS Registry Patch Application
    Model: CF-29[L/M](Mk4) Windows XP Pro SP2 CF-29[L/M]xxxxBx
    Operating System: Windows XP SP2
    Language: English (North America)
    Release Date: Aug 22, 2005 Index No: 005616
    File Name (Size):
    [Download Time] gps_29_4_d040227.exe (221.0 kb)
    [Download Time 512k: 3.8 sec]

    And remember; "If all else fails, read the Instructions:" ;)

    Category: Operation System and Others
    Title: [ Install Instructions ]
    Model: CF-29[L/M](mk4) Windows XP Pro SP2 CF-29[L/M]xxxxBx
    Operating System: Windows XP SP2
    Language: English(North America)
    Release Date: Aug 22, 2005 Index No: 005636
    File Name (Size):
    [Download Time] H-2005-0174.pdf (87.4 kb)
    [Download Time 512k: 1.5 sec]
     
  7. roversam

    roversam Newbie

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    so i ran this patch and then tried to run it like the instructions said to nothing happens and then i get an error saying that it windows cant open up my registry. so what next?
     
  8. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    Make sure it's enabled in bios. If it's not all you should have to do is highlight it and press "enter" then it will give you the option to enable or disable, chose enable if it is still disabled. The registry patch isn't to activate the GPS it's to keep the mouse from jumping all over your screen. With out it you computer will think the GPS signal is a mouse signal. Are you using a factory image or a regular install on your pc? If you don't know go to CONTROL PANEL, SYSTEM there it will list what processer you have, how much ram. To the left of that if it is a blank spot it's not a factory install or a restore disk. If it has PANASONIC there it is a factory/restore install. A factory style install will have the GPS registry patch already installed.
     
  9. unclemack

    unclemack Notebook Evangelist

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    I think I remember (best I can do these days) having to install VZaccessmanager for Verizon before the GPS would work. Can't even use EVDO in the UK so it was pretty much the last thing I expected but the GPS is mounted on the Verizon board - it's mini pci-e on my Mk.5 so it might be different on yours though.
    Works OK.
     
  10. SHEEPMAN!

    SHEEPMAN! Freelance

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    You could send it to someone :rolleyes: and they would put a touchscreen panel in it and get it set up. I understand if "I rather do it myself" is your motto. ;) Welcome to the zoo and congrats on your first "really really nice" toughbook. It will run 2 gig of ram and if you upgrade to W7 someday and if it has a SD reader you can use ready-boost. I looked on configurator and SD did not show up. BTW Xppro runs fine on 768 to gig ram.
    Here's Azrial's search gizmo. Replace test with anything you want to know about toughbooks.
    TEST site:forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic - Google Search
     
  11. unclemack

    unclemack Notebook Evangelist

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    HehHehHeh!
    Someone futtup an' it wasn't me, heehee.. :D :D
     
  12. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    As an aside, Verizon in the UK is also connected with Vodafone Limited®: what wireless broadband technology does Vodafone use? :confused:
     
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  13. roversam

    roversam Newbie

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    When i scroll threw the bios it just skips over the gps section like its not equiped. I will have to look at the OS when i get home to tell if its a factory install or not. would i be better off getting an new gps that just plugs into the usb port?
     
  14. unclemack

    unclemack Notebook Evangelist

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    TC '88 it's looking like a Vodafone/Verizon merger is in the offing. From a brief search Vodafone apparently already owns 45% of Verizon, they've forgotten their recent enmity and are now the very best of friends...
    As far as I know all providers use HSDPA in the UK, no EVDO at all.
    But I'm the newest and greenest of born-again geeks.

    Roversam the VZaccessmanager was a little hard to find but it's a free download so worth trying if you haven't already. Sierra Wireless MC5725 is the card in mine I think.
     
  15. roversam

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    ok so i rest the bios and when i restarted windows i had the curser hop all over the screen. in the bios it was set to auto so i reset it to enabled and the mouse hop stoped. so when i went into hypertermanel i could not get it to scroll data and it locked up my computer. so whats next guys? thanks for all your help so far.
     
  16. peewee3ie

    peewee3ie Notebook Consultant

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    Try use GPS patch that was mention about to stop the curser from jumping about like that.

    I think it was said between the 4 to 6 post on page one. Ether way you need to use the GPS patch now.
     
  17. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    Mouse hop is good that means you do have gps. You need to go into bios and now disable the gps, run the registry patch, reboot and re-enable in bios. After that you need some software to test it out.
     
  18. roversam

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    ok did that this morning and re enabled it no mouse hop. downloaded a free gps test and it came up with the right com port and said that i had gps but would not lock in on my location but i was getting nhmn scroll on it like it was serching. is there any good free gps software out there that i could try?
     
  19. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    After my military career ended, I worked in the private security industry.

    One of our clients was the Texas-based company that refurbishes cellphones for Verizon.

    One day I was tasked with providing security for a group of UK Vodafone executives who came in to do an inspection/observation of the operation; so Vodafone's participation with Verizon isn't "hands-off" in nature.

     
  20. capt.dogfish

    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    VisualGPS to see the GPS and check satellites, etc. GPS Info, down load from USGlobalSAT website, to search your com ports for the GPS. Both free downloads.
    CAP
     
  21. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    You may need to go outside under a clear sky to get your first lock after that it should get a lock easier. Right now just for testing I like gpsfox. Winstat navigator will work but I can never get the MPH to work. It always works on GPS fox. On full paid for versions I have only tried a copy of topo 7.0 I think version 11 of that is out now with version 10 being pretty cheap on Amazon.
     
  22. roversam

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    First and for most i want to thank everyone for there help, I got my first tracking today so that was great to see. My only other question is does anyone know a good gps that will cover the US as well as Mexico mostly Baja Sir? thanks again for all your help
     
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    capt.dogfish The Curmudgeon

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    I just looked on MS Streets & Trips, seems to have pretty good coverage of Baja. I'm running 2011 at the moment. I'm assuming you meant software as you've got your GPS running.
    CAP
     
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    Yes but i need one that covers off road maybe topo and dirt road coverage would be good. we are planing a 3 week trip down there and need as much info as posible. thanks again for everyones help
     
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    Who in the hell would go through all the crap of cracking a Toughbook open? Spending $150 on stuff, drilling holes and soldering wires, adding copper flashing, and hoping after its all closed up, it works. It takes 4 hours to do it, and 14 days troubleshooting when it doesn't Do what the US Army does. Plug and Play. When the striker was getting hit by RPG's they didn't go inside and beef it up, they added components on the outside that can be replaced quickly if damaged. When the Airforce flies jets around controlled airspace, they don't call in the DC-10's they use fuel pods. When the Navy EOD detects IED's, they plug into a external Antenna, plug in the Game Pad and R2 goes to work. When you belong to SWAT, your AR-15, red dot laser is an attachment on the rails, with a Flashlight attachment underneath. Everything is an add on. EVERYTHING.


    Get an external USB GPS, they use better Technology, They have Memory Cards built inside, they use less power, they are easy to set up, they are tough as hell, and if something goes wrong, pull it out, pop one back in. Internal GPS? That's like welding the clip into your 9mm. Just Plain Stupid.
     
  27. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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    wow.....toughmahines....you may be in the wrong place to be spouting off such emphatic beliefs for having only 3 months and 2 posts under your belt.

    Might want to look around before you start getting diarrhea of the mouth.
    Just sayin'

    roversam:
    IMHO, for the US, check out iguidance for point to point directions/navigation. I personally love that prog (the poi system sucks, but guidance is great), and then Streets&Trips (I use 2007 w/2011 map data) does the rest for me.

    i recently learned about Goops for Google Earth:it looks pretty dern cool, but haven't tried it myself. Before my next OS reinstall, I'll throw that in and play around.

    ANd then, of course, you should check out xport by Curious Tech. IT allows you to pull the nmea stream from the gps and throw it to virtual com ports, so you can run multiple gps programs at once.

    My $.02
     
  28. ADOR

    ADOR Evil Mad Scientist

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    And what happens when you break your USB gps off under fire and the USB port is damaged? The point of putting it in a toughbook is so parts like that don't break or get wet.
     
  29. interestingfellow

    interestingfellow Notebook Deity

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    AMEN, Brother.

    If they don't make one that goes in my 29, then I'll redneck one in.....not on. My gps, bt, wwan, even my mouse, all inside the beast.

    Hell, I've been dealing with the dialup wwan speed of my pcmcia for the simple fact that a usb stick would get fubarred in a heartbeat.
    (btw, bout' to redneck a usb stick inside....we'll see how that goes)
     
  30. ohlip

    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    ToughMachines! you are clinicalbrod on ebay before and now Blackhawkusa, right? Let us know(btw, I know already). We are welcome you on the forum.

    All of the ideas and points are consider here whether you like it or not as long as it is not beyond the forum rules and regulation.

    Internal or external form of ad on hardware will be fine but it is depend on your application. Like for example if your unit is stationary like on boat you can use external gps(USb gps) but if your job is reguired with regular movement of location that need a gps, its better to have internal. It is also depend on what type of GPS you are using and setup. I can do a setup of gps with an option of external or internal antena for GPS. OEM? better to ad cmos battery to work it perfectly. If you know how to do it. It doesn't reguired drilling, btw.

    More to follow if you ask more Clarification. Just ask. I can make two gps ad on on one machine if it is necessary or maybe three. One external and two internal. How s that?


    ohlip

    One more thing; I do not compromise the integrity of the unit. On my behalf, btw. The expansion option on the unit are available by a form of hirose connector. Its like a destop computer thats has an expansion slot. You just need to have an interface cable to hook up your add on hardware. I've guess you need a thorough reading and an schematic diagram to understand all of the thing.
     
  31. TopCop1988

    TopCop1988 Toughbook Aficionado

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    Guess you never heard of the “Red 9” Mauser M1916 then .... :wink: :tongue:
     
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    :eek2: Oh Ssssssssssnap!
     
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    I had a "broom handle" way back in the day. Much better than the Luger which was perpetually jammed, too steep a feed angle. As to external GPS, that's my choice, I never use the GPS except in some sort of vehicle so I don't need internal. I would however never presume to suggest that anyone was stupid for building their machine to suit themself. That would be as dumb as gluing a rubber shower mat on the outside of a Toughbook :eek:
    CAP