cf-29 mk1 WIFI not detected

title pretty much says it all...

CF-29
768 ram

i've tried XP win 7 and knoppix this WIFI card isnt showing up.

so i yanked out the OEM card and put in a B/G intel; card i know is good from an old insperon 6000

still no show.

check the bios, nothing jumped at me :\

what am i missing?

 

Make sure it's inserted straight and the whole way in. I had one once that locked in place but wasn't fully seated.
Did you install any drivers?

 

It would help if you would post your full model number and some more information on the wifi card you took out and the one you put in, "oem"(maybe, depending on who has been into the machine before you) and "intel b/g" don't tell us much.
You mention three different operating systems with no mention of drivers, leading me to believe you are going to have to do some reading, the Toughbook is a lot of things, but plug and play when it comes operating systems and drivers is not one of them.
CAP

 

Actually; it doesn't.

Model Number (i.e.: CF-29xxxxxxx)?

Obviously, it is a unit that started out with 256MB of base RAM; but it doesn't really "say it all."

So, what is the Model Number of the "OEM card"?

Again, what is this card's ID?

Is Wireless turned ON in the BIOS?

Insufficient information provided to answer this question.

 

if you guys really think it'll help

CF-29ctkgzdm
256 onboad + infinion HYs64d64020gbl-7-8 (pc2100 512mb CL2)
original card was intel wm3b2100
"new" card is from an old dell (del PN OK3444) intel PN WM3A2200BG

im pretty confident in my ability to reseat a card (and i've done it a few times on thie uni with no luck)
I'e installed the intel proset for the 2100 card although the problem is its not showing up at all. not in device manager for XP or win7 hell i even booted knoppix and it didnt see anything :|

when i said nothing jumped out at me in the bios i meant to say there was nothing related to turning WIFI on or off...

there was on option to turn slot an on/off but i tried that in settings still nothing.

and again to just make sure we have sufficient info, the problem isnt with driver per say, its not being detected by the OS at ALL I can figure out drives but when its not under device manager :|

 

Have you installed the Intel® PROSet/Wireless Software and drivers.

 

for the 100TH time (not really) the drives are NOT the problem

the problem lies int he fact that I cannot get it to see the card to begin with!

 

Hey guys...

He says his model # is CF-29ctkgzdm

Does that cross-reference to one of the Federal models we've discussed where the WiFi is disabled in the firmware?

mnem
Playing catchity-uppity...

 

No:

CF-29CTKGZDM DESCRIPTION:
Pentium M 1.2GHz ULV (Centrino), 13.3" XGA Transmissive touch screen, 40GB HDD, Floppy Disk Drive, 256 MB RAM, 56K Modem, 10/100 Ethernet LAN, Intel PRO WLAN, Windows 2000 Pro

 

Well it does not show up as that...

 

I'm guessing then a damaged Mini-PCI slot or perhaps a blown fuse.

Ohlip, can you point this poor fellow to the right area to look for that fuse?

mnem<~~~UnFUSED~~~<<<

 

are you sure it isnt affected by that firmware? i know it was used in a PD or federal car before...

fuse? PLEASE DO TELL (looks at mobo)

thanks for you help boys

 

CF-29CTKGZDM DESCRIPTION:
Pentium M 1.2GHz ULV (Centrino), 13.3" XGA Transmissive touch screen, 40GB HDD, Floppy Disk Drive, 256 MB RAM, 56K Modem, 10/100 Ethernet LAN, Intel PRO WLAN, Windows 2000 Pro

Why did you install 2100 drivers with a 2200 card???

Nevetheless, since you used the same Intel 2200 card as the Mk2 uses:

Title: Wireless LAN Driver [This file can be installed only to WLAN model] Latest Update
Model: CF-29E3(mk2) Windows XP Pro SP1a CF-29E3KGZKx
Operating System: Windows XP
Language: English(North America)
Release Date: Mar 03, 2008 Index No: 011731
File Name (Size):
[Download Time] wlan_d080215.exe (89.8 mb)

[Download Time 512k: 26.6 min]

How to Update Driver Wireless LAN Driver Update Procedure (for Windows XP)
This file describes the procedure for updating Wireless LAN driver and utility software(Intel PROSet) to version 11.5.0.34 or 9.0.4.37.

[Precaution]
Before updating the driver‚ you should
- Logon with administrative user.
- Don’t use Fast User Switching.
- Connect AC Adaptor and fully charged battery.
- Disconnect networks (wired and wireless).
- Disconnect USB equipments and PC cards.
- Disconnect modem cable and LAN cable.
- Terminate all programs other than the update program.
- Terminate virus protection program and alike.

[Summary of installation procedure]
1. Confirm the version of Wireless LAN driver
2. Extract the new driver files
3. Uninstall old versions of software
3-1. Uninstall Hotkey Plus Manager
3-2. Uninstall Wireless Switch Utility or Wireless LAN Switch/Bluetooth Switch
4. Update Wireless LAN driver and utility software (PROSet)
5. Install Panasonic Misc Driver
5-1. Install Panasonic Misc Driver
5-2. Confirm installation of Panasonic Misc Driver
6. Install applications
6-1. Install Panasonic Common Components
6-2. Install Hotkey Appendix
6-3. Install Hotkey Plus Manager
6-4. Install Wireless Switch Utility
6-5. Confirm installation of applications

*** KEEP THESE STEPS STRICTLY‚ OR MALFUNCTION MAY BE CAUSED.

[Procedure]
1. Confirm the version of Wireless LAN driver
(1) Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Performance and Maintenance]-[System]
-[Hardware]-[Device Manager].
(2) Double click [Network adapters]‚ and double click [IntelR PRO/Wireless
2200BG Network Connection]‚ [IntelR PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network
Connection]‚ [IntelR PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection]‚
[IntelR PRO/Wireless 3945BG Network Connection]‚ or
[IntelR Wireless WiFi Link 4965AG].
(3) Select [Driver] tab‚ and check [Driver Version].

If it is displayed as
- "9.0.4.37" for
IntelR PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
or IntelR PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection‚
- "11.5.0.34" for
IntelR PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection‚
IntelR PRO/Wireless 3945BG Network Connection‚
or IntelR Wireless WiFi Link 4965AG‚
the driver has already been updated.

2. Extract the new driver files.
(1) Execute the program named wlan_d080215.exe.
(2) Read the "License Agreement"‚ and click [Yes].
(3) Confirm the destination folder (default folder is c:\util_d080215)‚ and click [OK].
*** If you change the destination folder‚ specify a
*** folder on C drive.
(4) Wait about 30 seconds until files are extracted.
The folder will be automatically opened on completion.


3. Uninstall old versions of software
Before installing the new Wireless LAN driver‚ old versions of the following
software must be uninstalled.

- Hotkey Plus Manager (if applicable)
- Wireless Switch Utility or Wireless LAN Switch Utility

3-1. Uninstall Hotkey Plus Manager
Hotkey Plus Manager must be uninstalled for the following models.

CF-18[N/P][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxxBx‚ CF-18[K/L][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L]x‚
CF-18[F/G/H][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L]x‚ CF-18[D/E][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L/G/K]x‚
CF-18KHHZXBR‚ CF-18KHH65LR‚ CF-18[K/L][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxxTx

If you use these models‚ follow the steps below to uninstall Hotkey Plus
Manager.

(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)Select "Hotkey Plus Manager" and click [Change/Remove].
(3)Click [OK] in "Confirm Uninstall" window.
(4)Wait untill uninstall process is completed.
*** IF "Locked File Detected" IS SHOWN (IT MAY BE SHOWN TWICE OR MORE)
*** DURING UNINSTALLATION‚ CLICK [Reboot]. OTHERWISE MALFUNCTION MAY
*** BE CAUSED.
(5)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.


3-2. Uninstall Wireless Switch Utility or Wireless LAN Switch/Bluetooth Switch
(1)Turn ON Wireless LAN power.
(2)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(3)Select "Wireless Switch Utility" or "Wireless LAN Switch" and
click [Remove](or [Change/Remove]). If both are not shown in the list‚
skip the remaining steps of this section.
(4)Click [OK] in "Confirm Uninstall" window.
(5)Click [Finish] when "Uninstall Complete" window or "Maintenance Complete"
window is displayed.
(6)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs] again.
(7)If "Bluetooth Switch" is shown in the list‚ select it and click [Remove]
(or [Change/Remove]) and carry out same procedure as steps (4)-(5).

4. Update Wireless LAN driver and utility software (PROSet)
You should follow the proper procedures according to the current driver
version.

4-1. When the current version is 8.x.x.x.
(1) Open drivers\wlan\XP\Apps\x32 folder in the folder in which update files
are extracted (default: c:\util_d080215\drivers\wlan\XP\Apps\x32).
(2) Double click "install.bat".
(3) Click [Install Software] in "IntelR PROSet/Wireless Installer".
(4) Read "INTEL SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT" and check "I Accept the …"‚
and click [Next].
(5) Click [Next] with "Typical" selected.
(6) Click [OK] in "Do you wish to replace this software with a newer version?"
message.
(7) Driver and utility software (Intel PROSet) are updated.
Wait for several minutes.
(8) When update was completed‚ "Installation complete." message
is displayed. Click [Ok].
(9) When "system reboot" message is displayed‚ click [Yes] to reboot.
(10) Confirm the version of driver is "9.0.4.37".

4-2. When the current version is 9.x.x.x‚ 10.x.x.x‚ or 11.x.x.x.
(1) If you use "IntelR Wireless WiFi Link 4965AG"‚ open
drivers\wlan\XP\Drivers\x32 folder in the folder in which update files
are extracted (default: c:\util_d080215\drivers\wlan\XP\Drivers\x32)
and double click "\iProdifx.exe".
(2) Open drivers\wlan\XP\Apps\x32 folder in the folder in which update files
are extracted (default: c:\util_d080215\drivers\wlan\XP\Apps\x32).
(3) Double click "install.bat".
(4) "Do you wish to replace this software with a newer version?" message is
displayed‚ click [Yes].
(5) Wait for several minutes until "Please wait…" message is closed.
(6) If "An item has been changed that requires a system reboot." message is
displayed‚ click [Yes].
(7) Confirm the version of driver is "9.0.4.37" or "11.5.0.34".

5. Install Panasonic Misc Driver
Panasonic Misc Driver should be installed for the following models.
CF-R5[K/L]‚ CF-T5[K/L]‚ CF-W5[K/L]‚ CF-Y5[K/L]‚
CF-R4/T4/W4/Y4‚ CF-R3‚ CF-R2/T2/W2/Y2‚
CF-51‚ CF-74[C/D/E/F]‚ CF-73‚
CF-19[C/D/E]xxxxBx‚ CF-19[C/D/E]xxxx[V/U]x‚ CF-30[C/D]xxxx[B/L]x
CF-18‚ CF-29

5-1. Install Panasonic Misc Driver
(1) Open "miscinst" folder in the folder in which update files are extracted
(default: c:\util_d080215\miscinst) and double click "setup.exe".
(2) Click [Next] in "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for Panasonic
Misc Driver".
(3) Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.

5-2. Confirm installation of Panasonic Misc Driver
(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)Select "Panasonic Misc Driver" and click "Click here for support
information".
(3)Confirm the version is "V1.00L14 M00".

6. Install applications
6-1. Install Panasonic Common Components
Install Panasonic Common Components with the following steps. You may need
to uninstall an old version of Panasonic Common Components before installing
the new version.

(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)If "Panasonic Common Components" is shown in the list‚ select it and
click [Change/Remove]‚ then proceed to (3). Otherwise‚ proceed to (5).
(3)Click [OK] in "Confirm Uninstall" window.
(4)Click [Finish] when "Uninstall Complete" window is displayed.
(5)Open "pcommon" folder in the folder in which update files are extracted
(default: c:\util_d080215\pcommon) and double click "setup.exe".
(6)Click [Next] in "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for Panasonic
Common Components".
(7)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.

6-2. Install Hotkey Appendix
Install Hotkey Appendix with the following steps. You may need to uninstall
an old version of Hotkey Appendix before installing the new version.

(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)If "Hotkey Appendix" is shown in the list‚ select it and click
[Change/Remove](or [Remove])‚ then proceed to (3). Otherwise‚ proceed to (5).
(3)Click [OK] in "Confirm Uninstall" window.
(4)Wait untill uninstall process is completed.
*** IF "Locked File Detected" IS SHOWN (IT MAY BE SHOWN TWICE OR MORE)
*** DURING UNINSTALLATION‚ CLICK [Reboot]. OTHERWISE MALFUNCTION MAY
*** BE CAUSED.
(5)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.
(6)Open hkeyapp folder in the folder in which update files are extracted
(default: c:\util_d080215\hkeyapp) and double click "setup.exe".
(7)Click [Next] in "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for Hotkey
Appendix".
(8)Click [Install] in "Ready to install the Program" window.
(9)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.

6-3. Install Hotkey Plus Manager
Hotkey Plus Manager must be installed for the following models.

CF-18[N/P][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxxBx‚ CF-18[K/L][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L]x‚
CF-18[F/G/H][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L]x‚ CF-18[D/E][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxx[B/L/G/K]x‚
CF-18KHHZXBR‚ CF-18KHH65LR‚ CF-18[K/L][H/J/K/L/N/M]xxxTx

(1)Open "hplsman" folder in the folder in which update files are extracted
(default: c:\util_d080215\hplsman) and double click "setup.exe".
(2)Click [Next] in "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for Hotkey
Plus Manager V2.30 L11".
(3)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.

6-4. Install Wireless Switch Utility
Install Wireless Switch Utility with the following steps.

* If you currently use Wireless LAN Switch/Bluetooth Switch‚ they will be
replaced by Wireless Switch Utility with the steps in this section.
Task tray icons for these utilities are different‚ but these have same functions.

(1)Open "wswitch" folder in the folder in which update files are extracted
(default: c:\util_d080215\wswitch) and double click "setup.exe".
(2)Click [Next] in "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for Wireless
Switch Utility".
(3)Click [Install] in "Ready to install the Program" window.
(4)Click [Finish] when "InstallShield Wizard Complete" window is displayed.


6-5. Confirm installation of applications

6-5-1. Confirm installation of Panasonic Common Components
(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)Select "Panasonic Common Components" and click "Click here for support
information".
(3)Confirm the version is "1.00.1100".

6-5-2. Confirm installation of Hotkey Appendix
(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)Select "Hotkey Appendix" and click "Click here for support information".
(3)Confirm the version is "V7.00L15 M00".

6-5-3. Confirm installation of Hotkey Plus Manager
If you installed Hotkey Plus Manager‚ confirm the installation with
the following steps.

(1)Click [start]-[All Programs]-[Panasonic]-[PC Information Viewer]-[PC
Information Viewer].
(2)Click [Programs2] and confirm the version of "Hotkey Plus Manager" is
"V2.30 L11".

6-5-4. Confirm installation of Wireless Switch Utility
(1)Click [start]-[Control Panel]-[Add or Remove Programs].
(2)Select "Wireless Switch Utility" and click "Click here for support
information".
(3)Confirm the version is "V3.03L14 M00" .

Reason for Update
(1) This driver fixed the security vulnerabilities issue in Intel PROSet.
(2) This driver improved the performance of roaming.
(3) This driver fixed the issue which caused the bluescreen error by using telnet or accessing some web site when connecting by TKIP.

NOTE: If the installation procedure squawks about the Model of your unit, use WinRAR to extract the files to the diectory shown above (c:\util_d080215) for installation.

 

You can update the BIOS (if it hasn't already been done):

Category: BIOS and EC

Title: BIOS V1.01L13 (Nov‚ 2004)
Model: CF-29C/D(mk1) CF-29[C/D]x[T/U]xxxx Models with a Smartcard slot
Operating System:
Language:
Release Date: Nov 29, 2004 Index No: 002921
File Name (Size):
[Download Time]
bios_291_sc_r040128.exe (651.3 kb)
[Download Time 512k: 11.3 sec]

CF29BiosUpdateManual.pdf (37.6 kb)
[Download Time 512k: 0.7 sec]

Indemnification
(1) Matsua Electric Industrial Co.‚ Ltd. ( “MEI” ) shall assume
no indemnity obligation to the customers‚ hold harmless MEI and
its subsidiaries‚ affiliates‚ directors‚ officers‚ employees‚
agents and independent contractors retained by MEI from and
against any loss‚ cost‚ liability or expense (including‚ but
not limited to‚ court costs and reasonable fees of attorneys
and other professionals) arising out of or resulting from any
use of this utility or any claim against the customers from
the third party.
(2) MEI shall not be liable for any of the customers work for
updating BIOS and incidental work to updating BIOS‚ including‚
but not limited to‚ changing the setting of the customers'
computers or systems.
(3) The customers acknowledge and agree that technical support
service for any failure of updating BIOS by the customers shall
be chargeable.

IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO "INDEMNIFICATION" ABOVE‚ DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE UTILITY. BY DOWNLOADING OR USING THE UTILITY‚ YOU AGREE TO "INDEMNIFICATION".

Reason for Update New BIOS for CF-29mk1 is provided in order to support USB2.0 port-replicator.

 

If you had a 2100 card to begin with , as your model came with wi-fi stock
The bios will show centrino when booting if the stock 2100B card is in place

If you are using a 2200gb the bios will not detect the card and will boot as a Pentium M

I take it the stock card failed, thats why you updated it
The 2200bg will not show in the bios settings but will be detected as an unknown device in device manager

If your original 2100B worked and this 2200BG will not show in device manager ,it might be something strange like a special 2200 version made for dell ,not a genaric version

 

Alex , Its from a Dell .

 

Gosh darn it!

I appreciate that you guys are trynig to help but you dont seem to get the problem.

the unit will not detect the card at all, the 2100 or the 2200 card simply DO NOT get detected this has nothing to do with drivers, even without drivers it will at a minimum reconize that tehre is a card physically attached, mine unit does not.

I'll update the bios and see if ti boots with pentuim M or centrino logos.

 

from a dell or not, its a known working card. it should work.

 

update the bios first. Then report back. Aslo for your info most of the card from IBM, Dull(dell) and etc are locked. Lucky if you've got one from them that work on Panny.


ohlip

 

I have never had a stock 2100 card fail to recognize in device manager

If you bought the laptop with that original card ,and it does not work ,the chances are thats its a hardware fault on the m/b
Replace the m/b ,they are cheap when you find them for sale on ebay
Its a bit of work changing the motherboard

 

downloading the BIOS now... im on a 3G connection its a little slow

 

Just because it worked in the Dull does not mean it's not set to work only with a Dull and. therefore, not be recognized by the Toughbook.

Also, have you taken a good look at the mini-PCI card slot to see if there is any corrosion or damaged slot elements?

Oh, and BTW; from the Dull Community Support Forum: WM3A2200BG Wireless Problems

"Ok, Recently I had to reload my windows because of files missing or corrupted, I should have wrote down the correct message but didn't.

After formating and reloading I got the drivers I needed from my local computer service company and loaded them , Everything seems to work except wireless card, infact I can't even see where my computer evens see's the card. I read in another post about loading chipset first before loading all the drivers but I don't know what chipsets are for I am new to this but love doing it. I'm also not sure if the chipset thing evens applies to me?"

 

Just wait until you have to downoad the correct 2200 drivers set ( 89.8 MB)!

 

BLASTED TOUGHBOOK!!!!

I went to update the bios and it needs a floppy drive, go figure when i got this unit it had a DVD drive installed :|

on the flip side I think it shat its [pants when i was calling it names and threatened to throw it out the window. (not that it would have done much rmoe then crack my sidewalk) a new option in the BIOS appeard enable or disable WIFI :|

boot up windows and sure nuff there it is. O_O

Im wiping it again and loading windows 7 (better touch support and a cleaner OS IMO)

anyone know if the 2100 card will support WPA2 or do i "get" to swap in this 2200 and see if it'll work and support WPA2?

 

eh its' not TOO bad... when i was typnig that it was already done pulling down the BIOS... i had to pull down the 10 mb jp lang pack for adobe so i could look over the PDF

I have ATT3g and its not too bad i pull between 400k and 1mb a sec.

 

Try the 2200bg card again , the 2100B is flaky
Remember take out the battery when changing these out

 

now I just need to figure out how to twint the arm of windows 7 and get it to install the VGA drivers :|

I read on another thread to DL the vista drivers but they are no longer on intels website.

 

I will after I figure out if it supports WPA 2

 

If you have an acess to internet from other pc why not just download the driver not the whole utilty. For me those proset is useless and sometimes coz a problem with windows.

anyway, I'm lazy to go back and review. Did it recognize now?


ohlip

 

While the Installation Instructions comes from Japan, it is written in English:

CF29BiosUpdateManual.pdf"]BIOS update utility for Toughbook CF-29 series
-----------------------------------------------
This utility updates the BIOS of Toughbook CF-29 series.
Please read this document carefully before using the utility.

+--< CAUTION >-----------------------------------------------------+
| Do not disconnect the AC adaptor during the operation. Doing so could
| damage the computer.
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

 

Trust me on this: someone on this Forum can set you us with a proper floppy disk drive; for CHEAP!

 

Yes it did

 

Its not my unit, my old man bought it for my to fix, its like his midlife crysis but instead of buying a correvette or ninja he threw out my recomendation of a netbook and got this thing :|

after the 140$ he paid for it... the cost of a caddy an HDD and a new stick of ram (I wount touch a machine with under 512) hes over the cost of a new netbook and its slower... cant wait unitll he tried to put a thumbsitck into this wonky USB port... I've been using an ETC cord to get it "plugged in"
oh i also have to buy a power adaptor. (got a great deal on an IBM unit, new in box 16V 4.75amp)

and yes the WIFI is working now

 

Panasonic CF-29 Floppy Drive

$7.99 shipped

Panasonic CF-29 Floppy Drive - eBay (item 180553298224 end time Jan-23-11 13:15:06 PST)

 

WELL , your father is a smart man :yes: ....You like a netbook :laugh: :laugh:

 

Im not really a fan of either

netbook is too slow and a toughbook i think is fast enough does not exist that and would cost 10k

Ive been a hug fan of the precision line up... sturdy "enough" and very fast.

I would like a touch screen though

 

starshooter10: if you are ever going to do the BIOS upgrade, you will need this. :yes:

 

That statement describes the regulars here on the forum
We are all going through midlife crysis and we are too cheap to waste money on either fast cars ,or fast women

 

seems to running fine now, I've never been a fan of updating BIOS of no required reasons.

right now its stable if the wireless drops again then i'll update the bios but unitll then im done putting money into someone elses unit

as is im already about 3000$ short of buying my next unit (speced out M6500)

 

lol....

im just supprised he hasnt started to dump money into his harley

 

Glad you made it! Now! its time for you to think what else you can do to this unit. Panasonic has a lot of option on the mbo. that you can't find it on other pc out there. One of the member here qoute " Its more than a desktop" why Coz you can expand like having a tv tuner, GPS, WWAN, Bluetooth capable, fm tuner and etc. Not by using external port but internally/integrated. Thats the beauty of panasonic fully rugged toughbook. If you've plan of doing an expansion please don't use those cheap plug n play item. Your toughbook no longer a toughbook but a CRAP toughbook, Lol..

Sorry! I'm busy at the otherside of the forum. Giving some info for the member that probably those info may help somebody for at least a few buck instead what is normal.

ohlip

 

We have a few grey hair members here with those
I remember a friend that had one, a brand new 1990
Sometimes it would take him several months to install an upgrade part to the bike
Frustrating ,by the time he has the new part installed,there was a better part on the market

 

yeah tell me about it...

I ride crotch rockets and every year they seem to have some new revision...

and every 2-3 years a whole new model...

its pretty nuts at this point a one liter motorcycle engnie can put out over 180 HP to the wheel STOCK with a few easy mods they break 200 HP

 

Glad you got everything worked out. For the Dull card, was it like the Plus-S swap where you had to have the perfect angle or security features would be non existent?

How is the Dell card in the toughbook? I got one for like $3 shipped for my insperon 5100 and was extremely joyous til I installed it. Frisbee'd it not to long after.

 

still cant get this stupid thing to accept any driver for the vid card...

means no touch for me :|

also I tried to install a few files for the hot keys (FN keys) and it went from one unknown device to two :|

as far as i can tell all other drivers are installed :|

 

so far its great... i didnt have the ab card in very long but the signal is the same on the local "B" networks

the BG card supports all the new WPA also so thats a big plus.

as long as you buy an INTEL made card and not the crappy dell made ones you should be okay.

despite mine having a dell PN its still an intel card.

 

The drivers for xp or 2000 should be easy
Any other o/s you are in for frustration

 

dont need to tell me that

 

The touch is a mouse/point input. Both of those mice(think i said it right) will accept the driver for touch but on my 29H the bottom one was the right one for XP. I have to swap hard drives to see if W7 was opposite or not.

 

yeah I was having a hell of a time with the vid card drivers so i decided to move on to the "unknowns" but i still dont know what they are...

and as for the touch pad... im not getting anywhere