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    cf-30 wwan gobi 2000

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by ROAD HAMMMER, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. ROAD HAMMMER

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    ok just to start out i have a cf-30 with some card that worked on att prepayed but not on postpayed. im not dealing with that agan any how i have a so called unlocked gobi 2000. i like to use it on the att network if i can get it working on postpayed with out a hich. the first time i poped it in the sled i got nothing no wann light or any thing. some one know why or what i did or not do bios up to date after that last try. next how to set the all the swiching for att and what is the best one for the cf-30 wwan? and for those that use a wwan who do you use and is it prepayed or postpayed i like to have something to go on when i get home to work with it.
     
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    please post a full model number of your cf 30.
     
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    it is a cf-30 mk1 and did not come with gps finger reader or wwan i installed it all my self the wwan. is the only thing not wokring well it was working on att prepayed. but not post payed but i rather have a gobi 2000 that is what is has in it and post payed
     
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    it is a CF-30CTQAZBM BIOS L20
     
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    up date i now have the gobi 2000 working wwan light is on and win xp sp3 device manager. is showing a SW gobi 2000 in other devices no drivers. i try to install the gobi pack from the panasonic web page but the installer keeps saying no gobi 2000 found. what do i do at this point?
     
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    I don't know much about the Gobi other than I think the 2000 came on the mk3 and later. The mk1 and mk2 came with Gobi1000.
    If I had to guess, I would say it's possible that your bios does not recognize the Gobi 2000.
    Quite a while back Rob had issues with the Gobi in his cf30. I know he finally got it working. Click on the link below for more help.

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&pws=0&sclient=psy-ab&q=cf30+gobi++site:forum.notebookreview.com%2Fpanasonic&oq=cf30+gobi++site:forum.notebookreview.com%2Fpanasonic&gs_l=serp.12...75547.75547.1.77273.1.1.0.0.0.0.123.123.0j1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.2.2.serp.m0nEUnQt3Uc&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41867550,d.aWc&biw=1920&bih=891&ech=1&psi=tLYLUaD9N8SNyAHL7YDwDg.1359722189056.3&emsg=NCSR&noj=1&ei=tLYLUaD9N8SNyAHL7YDwDg
     
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    thanks i found something i did not think of it at the time. i have a rev 0 sled at least i think it is rev 0 and trying to use a gobi 2000 that is rev a. i think that is a big no no but i rather have a rev a. i will go to att to day with my old config and see if i can get it to work on post payed. if not i may try to find a rev a sled and try it that way. thanks for that link i know i will use it some time in the future. this CF-30 is my drivers daily log and use for faxing paper work back and forth to dispatch and everything else. i call em crack heads go here go there oh i need you to go back over here but i was just there that is 100 miles a way now. hay it is your diesel im not paying for it. any how i love my cf-30 it NEVER FAILS no laptop can stand the environment this tougbook lives in for 2 years now and counting. i have a pic some ware of my old cf-29 with my truck steer tire parked on top of it in the soft clay for best load distribution.
    that is 500 lbs on top of a cf-29 and still works to day not the truck you see here the truck parked a top a cf-29 had 18 wheels
     
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    glad to help. Thanks for the story about work. It made me laugh. My work is the same disorganized mess.
     
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    right now i am puling my hair out with this one. i have a novatel wireless card. and it is set up with att post payed i can not get it to connect useing mobilink or any thing. it all keeps failing.i keep geting this error 619
    this happened during authentication. any one have a post payed wwan on a cf-30 how the hell did you get it to work????

    i hate prepay it is a ripoff.
     
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    I don't use AT&T, but this is how I use the Gobi2000 with Verizon:

    Presuming that you have access to WIFI, start VZAM, and click on "Options" then "Preferences" then go to the section for WIFI. Make sure that you add your WIFI network to the list. Then close that box. Use VZAM to connect to your WIFI, then go to "Tools", and "Get Access". That should pull up the Verizon page that lets you sign up for either monthly or prepaid service in varying amounts. Sign over your first-born, and you are done.

    I would think that the AT&T process is similar. (Maybe not, I don't know.)
     
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    i was hopeing no one will say VZ my phone is grandfather in and i can not change that plan or. i lose my unlimited data plan and no plan can cover me. i live on the road and push 70 to 90 gigs on that phone. my att phone i can mess with its plan. but i can do a standalone plan. but that gobi 2000 is a pice of work. it is there in bios and shows up in XP but i can not install CSA it keeps saying no gobi 2000 found are all sleds the same? or do you have rev 0 and rev a sleds? the card that came in the sled is a rev 0 so i think it is a rev 0 but i do not know.
     
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    i don't know im geting so pissed off. this is by far the most pain in my a** i have ever had with this cf-30
     
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    Are your drivers showing up without exclamation points in device manager? If drivers are not yet showing up properly, did you follow the not-too-easy-to-follow CSA Instruction Manual that is downloaded from the same place as CSA?

    Panasonic Mobile Computer Wireless Carrier Software

    Pay attention to where the CSA unpacks to. (The User's temp folder.)

    Page 3 has some prerequisites for installing CSA. (in the section "Make sure you DO NOT see the following in the Control Panel (Add/Remove Programs:")

    Once those things are removed, go to page 15. You probably already have the Panasonic Misc driver and Common Components installed. Take notice of the "hotfixes" in step 3. In step 6, go to the Gobi2kPackage folder then the wanctrl folder, and install that. Skip down to page 17, to the section "Installation for AT&T", which has you install from the Gobi2kPackage\driver folder. Then go to the CSAPack\wwan folder to install AT&T's software.

    Presuming that your dip switches are set correctly, and antenna leads are attached properly, you should be good to go.

    If all that still does not work, you may have the Chinese Gobi2000 which requires different drivers. I have them, so let me know if you need them.
     
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    By the way, if I remember correctly, the folder that CSA unpacks to is hidden by default in XP, so you might want to extract to an easier to find folder (like maybe creating C:\CSA folder).
     
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    is there an Chinese Gobi 2000 ? I'm waiting for a Gobi2000 to arrive, that should be for Panasonic (& Fujitsu). I thought I saved myself the headache of trying again to make the Lenovo branded Gobi2000 I have, work in Windows on my 30mk1.
    if it won't work with Panasonic drivers, who made the working drivers for the 'Chinese' version ?

    that's what I've ordered http://www.ebay.com/itm/321030413202

    thanks,
     
  16. theoak2

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    The one I got off eBay (from China) had a blurb in their eBay listing about needing to email them for the drivers. They sent me a link by email. After trying the ones in CSA (and having no success), I checked that email link, downloaded the drivers, and then it worked. I don't see such a warning in your listing, so who knows?

    I believe that most Gobi2000's are a little difficult to install on the software side.
     
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    thanks, hope that's the situation in my case. I will know for sure, next week, probably.
     
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    This sounds very similar to a Nvidia card I bought a while back. It may have been a US or China seller, I don't remember. It was sold as a 380 or something like that. It would not work without the drivers from the fleabay ad. I tried a lot of other drivers and they could not find the card.
    It never did work quite right even with the fleabay drivers.
    When I decided to replace it with a 400 series card, I did more research on FAKE cards. I found a way to ID the card and sure enough my 380 was a 220. I don't recall the exact model numbers, but you get the message. They rewrite the hardware ID of the card so it "says" the better card. Then they rewrite the old drivers for the actual slow card to report that it's the faster/better card. The official driver can't figure out what the card is.. and refuses to load. You must run the hacked driver for the FAKE card to work.

    Point is, I bet that Chinese GOBI 2000 is a hacked GOBI 1000 or something else......

    Anytime a vendor tells you that you need their " SPECIAL" drivers, that is a huge danger sign. I know Panasonic has custom drivers for Toughbooks, but standard drivers will work with the hardware. I use the standard Synaptics touchpad driver and the standard Fujitsu touchscreen driver..Other than specific hardware such as hotkeys, a standard driver should work with any hardware. I have needed to uninstall the "Panasonic" drivers first. Otherwise things like the Intel chipset drivers will not load. If the sticker on that card says Sierra GOBI 2000, then Sierra GOBI 2000 drivers should work.
     
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    Even though these China sent Gobi2000 cards look genuine, with proper label and all, they definitely require the other drivers. But I don't think they are disguised Gobi1000s because the 1000 did not have GPS and these do. The GPS and WWAN both work quite well in my CF-W8, but I am still experimenting with antennas to get GPS working in the CF-30. I have even switched the 2 Gobi2000s between the 2 computers. Both cards work perfectly (WWAN & GPS) in the CF-W8, but so far trying both cards, only WWAN works in CF-30. The GPS detects, but does not acquire satellites.
     
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    I will start a new thread on counterfeit parts soon so I don't totally hijack this thread. But, The label means very little. These guys are incredibly good. Fakes have been found right beside genuine parts in Best buy and other major retailers. Do a search on fake Motorola. Or Genuine vs fake Lenovo ThinkPad AC Adapter.

    Yours may be real. I hope it is.
     
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    Shawn,

    I probably don't have a 100% genuine Gobi2000, since the drivers should not be different, but since it works, I am happy with it. I think an exposé of fake cards is an excellent idea though since most fake cards probably don't work "as advertised".

    Road Hammer,

    First, let's make sure the physical install is correct. As you can see, I have a Sprint Rev A WWAN sled. I am not certain that it matters. Just stating the facts.

    Make sure that the computer is turned off, unplugged, and then pull the battery to be extra sure. The antenna leads are both gray, so it is hard to tell you which to connect to which. (I painted my "Main" lead black in this picture. They are not usually that color.) So first make sure the dip switches are set correctly. Just so you know the dip switch settings:

    Gobi2000-dipswitches.jpg

    Next connect the gray antenna lead that goes to the round brass connector on the left top in that photo to the "Main" connector on the Gobi card, and the other gray lead to the other terminal. Put the WWAN sled back in the laptop, and power on. In setup menu, make sure WWAN is enabled, (and GPS too, if it even shows as available. Cant' remember if it does or not).

    Once you know the physical install is right, then Don't use the easy method of "startcsa" after extracting CSA. Download that "CSA Instruction Manual" pdf file I mentioned earlier, and follow the instructions I pointed to. Hopefully this will work for you. Please let us know if it does not. We can try those other drivers if need be, but I would think that your eBay listing would say so if other drivers were needed.
     
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    well i do have the late bios L20 i got from panasonic. as for doing it from cmd looks like a dead end it say this model is not supported.
     
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    Sorry! guys for being late into this discussion. A bit sick but fine though.

    Ok! Road Hammer, Here is what you have to do in order to works Gobi 2000 on CF-30Mk1.

    first: set the dip switches of the sled into off, on, on, off of 1, 2, 3, & 4 respectively.
    second: slide it in into the the bay for WWAN. then power it on the unit and go to bios. It must be detected by the unit of having WWAN, set it ot enable. Then save and exit Let it booted up completely until it detect by the OS. Cancel all windows that will popping for a drivers.
    Third: Assuming that you have already dowloaded the file (CSA Insatallation pack). Extract the file into one folder or new folder not to default location. After it finished extraction, go to that folder and double click the " startcsa" it will display a new window that has two choices. Choose "start immediately" and follow instruction until it goes to point to choose, Att, Vrzn and sprt. Of course you have to choose At&t as it will be your prefered network. Reboot when finish and check the software switch utility if the WWAN is on on position. Also make sure the physical switch button is on.
    fourth: Power it off the unit completely. pull the AC plug and battery. Insert you SIM card into the slot. Install the battery and AC and then booted up completely. then open the AT&t connection Manager and your set.


    ohlip


    PS. Its no matter what bios installed. Mine has L19, L16 EC also my gobi2000 came from my CF-19MK3. For sure its an OEM for Panasonic.
     
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    of for start CSA it just keeps saying no gobi found.
    but the novatel wireless will work with att prepayed
     
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    Uninstall all the softwrae that you have installed previously and start all over again. Make sure no software leftover during unsintallation.

    Also make sure the dip switches is on the right position. We have the same SLED.


    ohlip
     
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    ok so i looked at the swiching and it is set for att but CSA say no gobi found
    so i snaped some pic. in hopes i am missing something and more eyes my find it
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    im now looking to buying a CF-31
     
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    Ohlip, you are a genius! My WWAN worked fine with the settings that I showed previously, but GPS did not work. Your dip switch settings helped with my GPS problem.

    I have edited my previous picture posted to show Ohlip's dip switch settings. They work better. (I'm not sure where I got the settings I was using. I thought they were posted here on these forums??)

    Road Hammer,

    Don't give up yet. Try Ohlip's suggestion of uninstalling all CSA and Gobi driver related software and starting fresh. The fact that your BIOS screen shows the ability to "enable" WWAN, and you previously said that there was an exclamation point beside the Gobi2000 in device manager is progress. Your computer "sees" the Gobi card. You just need the correct drivers and software setup. But first, make sure that you have the dip switches set as Ohlip said, and as shown in my corrected picture in post # 22 above.
     
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    ok this is weard now csa is saying. this program can only be installed on a panasonic pc. WHAT /--\
    now i screw that up i removed panasonic misc driver and now can not get it to reinstall from CSA misc.bat

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    the files are there going to try one more thing
     
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    grrrrr i do not know what left to do i have uninstalled it all reinstalled misc.bat pcommon.bat restarted restarted. and still start CSA saying no gobi device found. i think i need a new one as this one is crap. if that is the case any one here know where i can find 100% oem gobi 2000?
     
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    Did you try using the CSA Instruction Manual pdf? (Not startcsa?)
     
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    yes i have tryed install useing CMD and i got nothing.
     
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    Don't make it to complicated. Just follow my instruction mentioned above. But before doing that, Uninstall everything that are related to gobi and it is important to set the sled to what I've written.

    ohlip
     
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    i have uninstalled any thing i think to have any thing to do with the gobi. the swiching are set to 1 off 2 on 3 on 4 off. i looked and turned all on and off then turned 2 and 3 back on. uninstalled pana misc driver and pana common components reboot. reinstalled pana misc and pana common components. reboot used start CSA error no gobi found. used command line ran XP hot fix. ran com port conflict prevention. ran gobi2kpackage/driver and last att com manager. still nothing at this point i do not know what left to do

    you know i was just out looking and the cf-31 full load out cost more than an M18x gaming laptop at full load out but i can take my cf-31 and smash that m18x in to bits.
     
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    Don't loose your cool, man! Sorry! I'm not really good on english. Ok! When I installed mine there is nothing to do with pccommon comp. and misc driver. The two drivers are already installed when it comes out of the box. Maybe you are confused when you've seen that on the extracted file or on to the pdf instruction. I never followed those instruction. Since you've uns intall the two drivers, installed it again via the folder on the utility not on the CSA pack. Then reboot after the installation of those two drivers. Rebooting is also important each in every installation.

    Assuming its all done. Now! again install CSA pack based on my instruction abaove and see what happened. Let me know.

    ohlip

    PS, If its all failed again. Let me know. Maybe I will send you a harddrive with a complete image of mine. So that you can test it to make sure your gobi is working. I have here an spare 80 gig from CF-30 that I can clone my unit then send it to you.
     
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    i can not get around this gobi device not found. i think it is this card i have is crap.

    don't be to hard on your self your english is fine.
     
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    PM sent!


    BTW, on the bios second page. Did it display the WWAN antena on default mode?



    teo
     
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    Update:

    Today I received the Gobi2k card, curiosly it was sent from Belgium (?), even though on the ebay page the item was listed as coming from china. Tracking number was also with the *BE suffix, not CN.
    Small bubble envelope, inside a plastic case from a expresscard modem, containing the card in an anti-static bag.
    Anywas, let's get to the point:
    * BAD news: it's not Panasonic branded (CSA, Panasonic Gobi2k Driver package doesn't recognize it (Gobi2000 device not found)
    * FCC ID: N7NGOBI2, IC: 2417C-GOBI2 seems to be a Fujitsu Card, with VendorId: 1199, ProductId: 9000 rev2.
    * good news (finally): it's not the Chinese version, i.e. it doesn't need special drivers.
    I found the Fujitsu Gobi2k Package here installed it, and there you go, I now have 3 devices (Modem, Diag, and NMEA).
    3G works, GPS works, firmware is from 01.2010, and the driver is vanilla, from Qualcomm (05.2010).

    all this on 30mk1. tomorow, I'll check it out on the 19.

    kudos to Fujitsu, for that they don't restrict their gobi driver install to their laptops only.
     
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    confirmed working in 19mk4 (win7 x32).

    Roadhammer, did you receive your Gobi card yet ?
     
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    jumed the gun working......
     
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    ron_of_orange Newbie

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    >toughasnails< This response has been relocated to a new Thread as of April,24,2013 by
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  46. ohlip

    ohlip Toughbook Modder

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    ron_of_o...,Mk3 CF-19 is capable of running gobi2000. Perhaps the person you've contacted in heartlads is not really the tech support team. He may be a person seating on his chair all day long, lol..
    Just to make sure you've got the right gobi2000 for your toughbook. As a matter of fact I have one running on my MK3 CF-19. FYI


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  47. toughasnails

    toughasnails Toughbook Moderator Moderator

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    Thats right Teo...all you get at Heartland is someone behind a computer looking at the service manual that is god only knows how old it is and if it does not list it then it will not work...not. When that service came out my guess there was no such thing as a gobi2000 :rolleyes:
     
  48. Gear6

    Gear6 Notebook Evangelist

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    and they ask $200 just to open one cover and insert the card in your CF-19 - calling it labor/diagnostics arrrggghhhhhhh....
    the Gobi1000 isn't worth more than 30-40$ even new/unused (it's rather old tech).

    as for the GPS there are far better/more precise/fast/etc aftermarket kits than the OEM 19mk3 one (i.e. Ublox 6/Sirf4).
     
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    ron_of_orange Newbie

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    Hi ohlip,

    The Gobi2000 was my original game plan, then due to such poor information and a lot of fear of my part I decided to try direct (email contact with Hartlan and Pana-Tech Supt. Both sources sang the same tune..."namely..the CF_19,Mk3 and GOBI2000 isn't supported". So here I am. My laptop used to have GOBI card prior to my purchasing it. I requested it be removed...being told it was GOBI1000. (I was too cheap). So, now I've changed my mind and need a good part number. A GOBI2000 with embedded GPS on board would do nicely. It should be unlocked and suitable for USA telecommunications. Any chance you or anybody else have the correct part number? A picture on the front and back side would cover all my concerns hopefully. I've seen what appears to me a lot of variations during my search efforts to date. I'm running WinXP, SP3

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    Update: This post is the last by ron_of_orange under this heading. It may be found under a new title or heading as "cf-19,MK3, chasing 3G, Gobi"
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  50. ROAD HAMMMER

    ROAD HAMMMER Notebook Consultant

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    im still around things just geting crazy here. any way i had my cf-30 gobi 2000 working and working with vz. come to find out it will not work on there WAN yet thay are adding my imei to the vz WAN so i can use it or something to that effect. to day i say well lets go see if it works so i rebooted opened bios truned on my wan and then booted to win xp. and well all radio's are working but the WAN. i looked and the cell tower is not lighting up. but the wireless switch is turning on. but now wan light. so i go back to bios to check and it is set to on and auto. but it is not working at all and it was working be for i turned it off in bios for 2 months a wating VZ to at me to the WAN. now i dont know what to do any ideas?
     
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