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    cf18 crazy mouse with enabled GPS

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by rtreads, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. rtreads

    rtreads Notebook Geek

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    cf-18DDAZAMM With OEM GPS.

    Ok, so let me start by saying I will try to follow ALL instruction to a "T". I appreciate your time and wisdom, and will follow your directions to a fix. Though I ask, can you please provide specfic instructions? I have researched and read threads on this fix, but none seam to solve the problem, and the ones that sound like they fix it, I dont understand. ...sorry i'm new to this. But THANKS for the help.

    To date I have done a clean install of XP. I did not use tablet version and had to manually install all the drivers (from panasonic). I have gotten everything working. I followed the instructions, and did "experiements" to get it working where I didn't understand the instructions. I got all the drivers from: Toughbook Computer Support - Search Downloads The issues I have now are If I enable GPS in bios the mouse jumps around, and the rotation/brightness/ect buttons dont work on the front of the computer. I installed all the drivers by extracting them and running the setup file. I did not go thru device manager and direct to the folder with the driver because DM would only go folder deep. I could not get to the file level. The drivers that did not have a setup file, or a file that you double click to run, I didn't load because I dont know how. Everything else seams to be working, just not the GPS and Hotkeys.

    I read this thread;
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/441147-cf18-gps-mouse-problem.html
    And as far as I can tell you download the GPS driver. I've done this. But I dont know what the next step is. I think it may be explained, but not in terms I understand. After I extract the file I get 2 files. I cant open either of the files: enableenum and skipenum with anything other than note pad. And when I open it with notepad, it doesnt install and I dont know what to do with it.

    I have NO idea about how to get the Hotkeys to work.

    Please direct me thru the processes to get these to function correctly.

    THANK YOU!!
     

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    Theres a topic on this somewhere in this forum.

    The best is to buy the recovery cds then everything works
    the first time and it only takes like 10-15 minutes as oposed
    to several days.
     
  3. rtreads

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    I have found a lot of these topics. but the issue is they dont bring a solution, or it is not explained well.

    I have tried to get the proper CDs. One of the other forum members tried to help me track down the CDs with no luck. If you have a working set of mk2 digitizer cds, i would love to try them!
     
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    Just grab any CF-18 recovery set from ebay or wherever you can get them and
    follow this info posted by one of our members. Problem solved.

    ~Toughbook Talk~ Toughbook Discussion • View topic - Panasonic Restore CD Crack

    To get rid of the "crazymouse" you need to update the mouse driver in Device Manager to the mouse driver for your 18. Then add the GPS registry value to the registry. Do all of the above with the GPS disabled in BIOS when done turn GPS back on and the mouse no longer runs around your screen.
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/441147-cf18-gps-mouse-problem.html#post5613119

    Read the one by tbtech. start,my computer, local disk, (C) util gps doubleclick skipenum

    Do this with GPS disabled in bios then re-boot and re-enable.

    TEST site:forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic - Google Search
     
  6. rtreads

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    Seams silly to get a set of restore cds and start over, when I only need to fix the mouse, GPS, and hotkeys. And getting the cds doesn't solve my proplem. It does not provide clear instructions. As I mentioned, I can follow the steps, and figure some of it out on the way, but clear instructions would be needed.

    There are 3 different mounses in the device manager. Which one do I use/update?

    Also please provide instructions on hot to "add the GPS registry value to the registry" ...I do not know how to do this like you mentioned. Can you expand on this with instructions?
     
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    Post a picture of what you are looking at in control panel with the mouse portion expanded please. I'll get my CF-18 and tell you what should be there.
    Belay that mine just shows touch/pad touchscreen.
     
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    No necessarily true

    I was able to load cf18 mk2 recovery disks on my mk2 using mk2 discs using the crack ,for some reason the stock disks did not work originally as I have a strange model #

    We just tried to load mk4 digitizer disks on a mk5 digitizer using the crack ,the hardware between mk4 and mk5 is very close ,and it was a fail part way through

    For many you will be stuck with loading a generic version of xp and loading the drivers separately

    For driver order
    Note post # 58
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/325093-cf-18-drivers-buttons-6.html
     
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    It might seem silly, but you aren't almost there. If you have not loaded the hotkey drivers in the EXACT order you can not load them with out starting from scratch. To your other questions, the drivers you can't get to work are not self installing so you wont find a "setup" icon or any .exe file in the folder. You have probably read the solution but missed it. You have to open the yellow queried item in device manager and force the install. Right click on the item, select update driver and follow the steps outlined elsewhere on the forum. You'll have to search for the instructions on the forum, its 2:28AM where I am and I'm not still up like some(alex?), I'm just up and on my way to work for a 18 hour dredge shift. Oh, yeah, the GPS fix is called a "patch" on the Panasonic sites and is self installing IIRC. Later.
    CAP
     
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    It remains tricky I know. I've had the fail part way through like on the 3rd or 4th CD but after 1 or 2 tries it finishes all the way. I have also noticed that it sometimes depends on the CD drive used as my brand new drive does not work near as well as an old cheap drive.

    I now have all the Toughbook images for all models I sell both standaard HD's and tweaked XP OS's for SSD's on my server and install via lan. This solves all the probs and lets me install in 10 min or so.
     
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    I have done this. And for what I understand that I am supposed to:

    open Device Manager> click on the yellow "?" for the second "unknown device"> click on driver tab> update driver> Install Wizard opens, select from a specfic location> next> select search for the best driver in this location> check include in this search> Browse to find the file where the downloaded driver is> next> ....and it is supposed to install, right?

    Well, the problem is that I cant get to the driver (and I wouldn't know exactly what file to use since there is no .exe file). It wont browse down to the file leve, only the folder level. I also am unable to find specfic instructions (like I listed above) for the process.

    Can anyone tell me the process and exactly how to do this? ...step by step? ...with out suggesting a search. As I mentioned, I have done many searches and read MANY posts. But for some reason I am missing something.

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!


    The GPS issue is another issue...
     
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    Here is a pic of the Mouse devices in my device manager.

    The one with the arrow by it is a USB mouse.
     

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    IF you have the CDs that I need, I am very interested. Though I have worked with other members on this forum and no one has them???

    I dont know what to do with this thing? I really wish I could find the information need to get it working. I kinda feel like a new driver, surrounded by drivers, but no one will show me how to drive...
     
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    Excuse me. I didn't see the digitizer part. Good luck. You have too many mice. EDIT: Un-plug USB mouse and see which one disappears. I GUESS :) you need the PS/2 mouse for the touchpad and the wacom for the digitizer. All the yellow marks the drivers SHOULD be in UTIL or UTIL2.

    Oh well,

    Right click on any mouse. Click properties. There are your drivers to look at.

    Pulls soap box over with scraping sound. If you use factory restore disks rather than shopping all over the ranch for drivers you will be amazed. Slides soap box back under the bench.

    G'luck.

    Jeff....drivers are in C:/Util or Util2 on all my machines. [start][my computer][c: hard disk] top of my head I'm on Linux. Sorry this is all garbled I have to leave and don't have time to be coherent.
     
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    This is the way you can install the two patch file for Gps. Double click the file(assuming you already extrcted) and it will display a new window asking you, bla..bla "do you wanna continue" click yes. same on the other file.

    for touchpad: On device manager under mice, expand; then point the mouse into PS/2 mouse....then right click, Update driver, it will dispaly another window, choose "not this time" it will dispaly again anther window, choose "install on an specific location" then point it to the folder, driver, mouse, then follow instruction. It it still no worky for you. Choose "don't search i will install specific driver" then "have a disk, then again to a folder where you extracted the mouse or specific file.

    ohlip
     
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    THANK YOU! I will try these fixes.

    One more quesiton about the gps... where is it in device manager?
     
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    Ummmm where are your com ports? Mine has 3 Com and a bunch of BT ports for Toshiba BT.
    I would look for the GPS on a com port. Usually Com 3.

    Anyone know what's happening here?

    Please open System Devices send a screenshot and let me compare that to my CF-18.

    Did you find the UTIL folder? [my computer] [local disk (C :) ]You should see Docs and Settings, Program Files, Windows and Util.

    Jeff
     
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    You have 2 unknown devices just like you are supposed to have with a clean install ,follow closely my guide to resolve those first
    GPS is never labeled as such in device manager it is listed under com ports
    Since nothing is listed under com ports your gps is currently disabled
     
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    That is what I meant but did not say. Where I was going is to tell him to enable GPS in Bios check com port. Then disable GPS in Bios check com ports. The missing Com Port would be the GPS. That sound right?
    Should there not be at least one com port?
     
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    Not on the digitizer cf-18 as it's missing the 9 pin serial port(Com1) that is normaly on the back of Toughbooks
    Com's can also show up for com port B (the docking station com port) and sometimes the dial up modem, and if equipped a cellular WWAN can use 2 to 3 com ports depending if it's equipped with a gps
     
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    Thanks Alex. That is what I was looking for. I remembered the serial port relationship with Com 1.
    And explains my three com ports.

    Thanks again.

    Jeff.........thinking..........did we set bios to defaults here? I'll go back and look.
     
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    ...sorry to sound stupid, but THANK YOU for telling me where the damn utilities folder is!

    I will take a pic and post it shortly...
     
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    ...wait. I went;
    my computer> c drive> docs and settings> ***but there is no program files folder. Only all users, and ryan. Neither of those folders has a >windows, or >utilities???

    Instead of above I also see:
    my computer> c drive> program files> but still no windows or utilities?

    I even did a search for utilities and nothing came up?

    ...feeling kinda lost now...
     
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    How about my computer> c drive> util
     
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    ...bummer that its not an option.

    What am I missing to not see this folder? did I do the XP install wrong or something? I have wiped about 6 computer in my life, and no issues like this
     
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    Let me guess ..... you did not use the Panasonic Restore Disk when you did the install did u :(

    Ok , I see you did not have the restore disk but that util folder should be there once you started to download the drivers because that is where they go......at least that's where mine went. I just tried it on my MK4.
     
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    If all else fails do a search for Util*.
    If it is not in the root directory of C then the map doesn't work. Follows is computer code.
    If it "Util" is not there then upgrade or install will not see it. Bad map!
    My sense of humor again.
    One more time:[Start][My Computer] double click the thing in the pane that looks like a hard drive labeled Local Disk C: You should see Windows,Util,Program Files and Documents and Settings. That's one step back from Blair's image above.

    OR:
    [Start]
    [Run]
    cmd [Enter]
    dir C:\
     
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    I did a search for "Util*" like you asked and got a folder named "util2" I would guess this is it?! In it is a folder "gps". In that are the 2 gps drivers. Though when I double clicked the skipenum file it wont open. see pics...
     

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    ...and I would really like to say thanks to you 2 for helping me!!
     
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    Note
    The folder is caller util when the restore disks are used
    When you download and install drivers from Panasonic downloads the folder is called util 2
     
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    ...folder util2 is shown in the pic above. i can open it, but the 2 gps drivers wont install
     
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    skipenum is an exe file. If / when you use it just doubleclick it. It's a very small file ...seconds only. Above quote from tbtech from earlier post in this thread.
    I've done GPS registry patch(model specific)and skipenum at least four times on CF-29s.
     
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    "reenable the serial that I disabled..." I dont remember doing this? What is this in reference to?
     
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    If it is an .exe file, why do I get the error when I open it? It doesn't look like a .exe file. and its only 1kb in size???
     
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    I have a feeling that all of the drivers that you downloaded are not yet extracted, do you?


    ohlip
     
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    I used winrar to extract the drivers from the gps file that I downloaded from panasonic. What that not the right thing to do?
     
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    See post #28. You can see the gps driver files there. you will know more about what type they are. But to the best of my knowlage (limited) they are not .exe files.

    Thanks for the help!!!
     
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    I knew that part might be confusing. tbtech was writing to someone else. Go back up and find that thread /|\ up there. :) if you want. Some good stuff there.

    I agree with Teo (ohlip).

    I'm setting up a wireless printer on the frau's TB. I'll come back and re-read this whole thing after a while.
     
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    Don't be offended. I am only asking and trying to figure out all of your trouble. coz I only see base on your acount is that only the gps patch was extracted and you have a lot of driver not yet installed based on the picture that you posted on device manager and the util2 is almost empty.


    edit: if error dispaly. There is another way. Copy the file skip.. and enab..m and then paste those two file into system32.

    Edit again; if its all fail try this solution for jumping mouse written by one of our member Zippyman: http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/328808-toughbook-gps-jumping-mouse-fix.html

    ohlip
     
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    I am not offended at all. I really appreciate the help you guys are offering! I really appreciate that you explain what I need to do as well.

    I only paste them into system32? I dont need to open them or anything? What about their size, are they supposed to be that small?
     
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    Yup! it a very samall size program. Sometime this work on me when I can't find the gps patch from other model. You can aslo try the second one if its still no changes at all.

    Btw, I am lazy to go back again and review all the posted review. May I know what model do you have? I mean complete model, maybe I have the right patch file on my file.


    ohlip
     
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    F2 while booting
    The GPS is disabled in the bios
    When you have the patch file in place,you are safe to enable it (without the crazy mouse issue)
     
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    Looks like this somewhat.
     

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    So I followed these instructions:
    Next follow these Steps:

    Right click My Computer
    Select Properties
    Select Advanced Tab
    Select Settings in Startup and Recovery
    Select Edit
    Add /NoSerialMouse (this is case sensitive) to the line that looks like:
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\XP="Windows XP" /fastdetect
    so that it now reads:
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\XP="Windows XP" /fastdetect/NoSerialMouse
    File - Save
    Exit
    Reboot
    Boot into bios and re-enable the GPS and save and exit.

    And the mouse seams to be fine. But I dont see the GPS in the device manager? is it supposed to show up there? Also, another dumb question, but where do I see the "comm" ports in device manager? I only see comm 2 in the expanded list of Human Interface Devices.

    ...How do I tell if the GPS is working? Isn't there some free program that tracks gps?


    >>>JUST DID A REBOOT AND THE MOUSE JUMPS ALL OVER AGAIN. THIS DID NOT FIX IT>>> What do I do now?
     
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    I have a cf-18DDAZAMM with OEM GPS.
     
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    Also just as a reminder... I was unable to open and install the files skipenum and enableenum. I posted pics of the error that I got. Dont I need to install these for the GPS to work?
     
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    Mine looks like this after I copied the extracted drivers to the util2 folder. Why do your folders have normal names and mine dont? Eventhough I did this, I still cant get the device manager to open the hotkeyplusdriver, or the gps drivers??
     

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    Someone should know, but my guess is the files were not extracted.
     
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    He used WinRAR to extract the files. You only need to do that if you get the model does not support error. If they are the correct files just double click them to run them. Follow the prompts and they will extract to the proper place. Then, either run the setup file or update from device manager(if no setup file).
     
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    UPDATE:

    So I kept getting an error when trying to install the GPS drivers. I still cant see the comm ports in device manager (i dont think i'm looking in the right spot) or the GPS hardware. So, I thought what the hell, I will see if its there anyway? I downloaded WinFast and did the "NoSerialMouse" edit then rebooted. Then rebooted after enabling GPS in the Bios. Interesting that the mouse was not jumping all around! Seams to have worked! I then opened Winfast and it FOUND THE GPS... Comm 4 apparently??? So it was tracking satalites and the mouse was not jumping all around!!!

    I think that means the GPS is working properly, correct? But cam someone tell me where to see it in device manager?


    ...I still need help with the hot keys if someone can tell me what to do there?? I did get the "hotkey driver" to finally update into the 2nd unknown decive in device manager. This makes the brightness buttons function. I still dont have any of the other hotkeys functioning.

    Thanks again to all that have helped!!
     
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