2019 Razer Blade 17

70Whr battery? actually smaller than the RB15, guess the extra fans took up some of the space.

 

Hmm why maxq, it’s huge, Pro, and have more fans, no display port!? And what the heck that fan on bottom, for cooling the battery?

 

I think they are steering air over the PCH and SSD's this time. But so many moving parts........makes the chance quite a bit higher that one of those fans fail.

 

Haha Video is taken off. Sometimes I like Gordon

 

Any chance do you recall the specs of the machine in the video?

 

CPU with 6 Cores 12 MB Cache,
1080 screen with 144 MHz,
2060, 2070, 2080 MaxQ graphic,
16 GB RAM (two slots),
2x 256 GB SSD,
2,8 kg,
4 fans,
70 Wh battery.

Design like a bigger RB 15. Now with touchpad on the bottom.

Price 2.699 (2060), 2.799 (2070) and 3.199 (2080) USD.

 

Thanks guys. Really wishing for a larger resolution screen option. Would love to see a WQHD 2560x1440 on that 17" display.

 

Yeah me too. That is an answer for gs75 I believe, it’s low budget Blade Pro like Blade Pro FHD. Hopefully they bring real monster with full non max Q GPU...on traditional €5K price tag

 

Oh man, sorry I missed that video - anybody capture any pics by any chance?

 

Looks like a gray colored case and huge Mac-like trackpad on the bottom. With so much extra room for cooling, this could be the 90 watt 2080 Max Q with little thermal throttling / low fan noise.

So is there a press embargo going on? Maybe more info is supposed to hit tomorrow.

 

Thanks! Yes, there is a press embargo that I strongly suspect ends tomorrow on Intel's 9th gen mobile (i7-9750H)

 

Looks like the 9750H is actually 8 core, which will be a decent boost in games. Expected to be announced tomorrow: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-intel-i9-9980hk-i9-9750h-laptop,39130.html

 

You get a bigger laptop! But also a smaller battery! So I guess they used the extra room to add a compartment to store our disappointment? Because I don't follow that logic

 

Disgusting; TFT 1080p display only , I'll pass. If this had an IPS 2560x1440 I would buy in a heartbeat.

 

I don't hate FHD in 17 but I do agree 2560x1440 would be the sweet spot. But so far the only one is the TN that alienware uses in their m17.

I was hoping Razer would do something innovative with displays here, but not so much....

 

Or even the LG Gram's 17" 2560x1600 IPS. That fat bottom bezel can use a bit of trimming.

 

Why no 1440p options? I would love a 1440p 120Hz display since those new cards can push some serious FPS

 

Because panel manufacturers arent making 1440P panels with narrow bezels at the moment. All laptop brands are basically buying the same panels as all the other brands from the same 4 panel manufacturers.

 

I think it’s also due panel supply issue not many brands has this 1440p 120Hz, Alienware has it on TN panel right, and Aorus only when I’m not wrong. Using it maybe just add more production costs that may effect the end price. I think it’s already fair price 2,5K 17 inch 2060 with new cpu and extra ports, before I think 2060 on Blade 15 was only a bit cheaper like 2,4K?

 

Wow... "Pro" laptop with a TFT display and 1080p. They sell the RB15 now with 240Hz IPS and 4K OLED but have only garbage from 2005 in the 17 Pro... And what's with that keyboard? SO much space and no num-pad or atleast some macro keys. Atleast the rest of the hardware is decent, with nice port selection and what looks like some cooling for M.2s.

 

It’s same with 2017 pro model FHD 120Hz with gtx1060, i think it’s update for that, budget “pro” model, and maybe to give gs75 competition. Hope Big daddy comes later, maybe still experimenting how to update €5K Blade Pro on that cassis. TFT display isn’t as great as IPS in term viewing angle but better than TN in color accuracy, keyboard is user preferred, I won’t buy laptops with numpad personally since I’m using it mostly for gaming, for excel works etc I use full external keyboard, yes I don’t like macro keys as well preferred decent up front speakers instead like Blade or MacBook speakers.

 

Even if the bezels are thicker, it would be worth it for the target audience

 

So for one resolution sku they have to make a separate line with a larger chassis? Bit excessive isnt it? The panels would already be available if the demand was truly that high. Especially with AUO being very aggressive to jump on any bandwagon as a panel manufacturer.

 

I actually applaud them for not adding a numpad. On a laptop I hate them. It offsets the keyboard enough that it just feels weird to me. On a desktop I can move the keyboard over enough to keep it center of my display. Can't do that with a laptop.

 

But it does make doing many things easier, such as professional work. Also since it's Razer, you can turn the num pad into a HUGE macro pad which you might need for many games

 

Hmm. . .didn't think about using them as macros. That would be useful for autoCAD. Hmm. . .

 

It would be good for productivity as well as gaming. Video editing, photo editing, MOBAs and even some FPS games could all greatly benefit from a macro pad. It sure beats having to carry around a dedicated numpad.

Sure it’s not for everyone but there isn’t a reason not to include one on a device this big.

I mean sure, it offsets the WASD keys, but the laptop is already big enough to offset by a considerable amount already, so shifting another inch over wouldn’t be much better or worse

 

I'm just weird like that. While I can see your point. On a 17" machine it would be less noticable of an offset than say a 15" laptop. And I'm surprised I never thought of the macro idea. I never did much it the software than change the color on my blade 14. So I guess I just missed that feature.

But I can tall you I have some OC'd with straightness and squaring things up. I spent like twenty minutes making sure my desktop screen was level when I first got it. It was off by a quarter inch and I could see it somehow. It's a curse I tell you!

 

thats the thing that slightly bugs me with the razer blade 15, the spacebar isnt center like on the Apple macbook, so the trackpad looks slightly off even though it is in the middle of the machine.

I'm very OCD about stuff like that but the rest of the laptop design kinda saves it.

 

I think they also make up for it with having an oversized trackpad. Besides apple and some hp laptops I don't think anyone else is going this route. And I think making them larger is good for usability. But, still yes I would look at an off center track pad and be like. . ."NOOOOOOOO!"

That's why I use a mouse. . .forget the trackpad is there.

 

The software is very powerful in that you can make highly detailed macros on a game by game basis or a program by program basis

Also OCD is a curse, I can understand people throwing a fit over things not being aligned or perfectly centered

 

I don't think any of you guys understand the difference between TFT, IPS, TN. Let's be clear, new pro 17 is IPS panel for sure.

TFT is the very fundamental and basic technology for liquid crystal display (LCD). Both TN and IPS are developed base on TFT. The full name used in industry is IPS-TFT-LCD and TN-TFT-LCD.
IPS and TN are comparable, but TFT is not.

For sure, we will see 240hz display or even OLED on the 17 model later this year or next year. However, there is no such 240hz display for 17 inch machine. So, 144hz and 4K are the only two option that Razer can offer on the pro right now. Unless you want a 2k 120hz TN that Alienware is offering.

 

I'm just not so sure about this statement. Razer specifys their displays are IPS on the product information page, but for whatever reason, they have chosen to omit whether it is TN, IPS or other on the new Blade 17 page. How do you know it is IPS for certain?

 

17 inch IPS 144hz is not a new or scarce panel. Many manufacturer has already used this panel for several months. There is no need for Razer to use anything other than IPS. You can also see the viewing angel is good as IPS in PCworld video.

 

Whenever I move my monitor to connect/disconnect cables or clean around the space, I use a bubble level and a ruler to make sure the screen is straight and that both sides are equidistant from the wall.

When I was a full-time OS X user a few years back, I always wanted a 17-inch MacBook Pro. If someone could find a way to Hackintosh this thing, it would be a dream.

 

I know Razer marketing if it’s IPS they’ll write IPS.
Blade pro

Blade 15

Yes technically both panel types are thin film transistor (TFT) panels. Cheap TFT displays are usually "TN" TFT-LCDs. The less expensive TN panels have lower color fidelity - usually 18-bit - while IPS panels can display 24-bit truecolor. So Blade Pro again use not ips but also not cheap “TN” TFT panel, you know there’s some great TN panels nowadays with not bad viewing angles like Alienware monitors use.

 

Yes, I understand what you’re saying. But sometimes it is just some marketing info. I don’t know why they don’t make it clear by saying IPS. Let’s just see what Razer is doing when the product relaesed

 

Has Razer said when the new 17in will be available? I just heard a vague "sometime in May", but no indications of when exactly.

 

My M17 has some macro functions so I'm gonna have to play with it and see how robust it is. I never bothered because my old experience with company software like this has been meh at best. PS yes the offset keyboard on this laptop does drive my OCD a little nuts. But it's hooked up to a keyboard and a ultrawide monitor so that helps.

You have no idea how much that makes me feel better that I'm not the only one. Sometimes I think I should just mount it to the wall and call it quits. With how good some monitors have gotten I can see myself still using this one for another 2-3 years. I have the x34 Predator. Awesome for gaming and productivity.

Linus did a video recently by using linux to use a virtual machine to run mac os. They did use a desktop so maybe it's not useable for a laptop. Though he does claim in the title to run MacOS on ANY PC. So might be worth a look.

You can pre order them on Newegg. They claim May 20th as the release date.

 

Newegg shows IPS

 

If its not LG or Philips its not IPS. There's a difference. IPS-Level is TFT with different features added. Blacks look flatter. Whites arent as white etc.

The cooling on the 17 pro may actually give great performance for the 9750H. Those vents that open up near the screen are wicked. Rocking full 6 core speeds without high fan speeds and temps would be great!

Is it just me or does it look like the keyboard may be the exact same as the 15 model? Like the same exact one. The speaker grilles are wider..

 

Yes, only LG panel is IPS. Other manufacture like AUO uses AHVA which is IPS level.

Thermal should be good. Keyboard is exact same as Blade 15.

 

I like the two chassis fans and am very interesting in seeing someone open this thing up after embargo. In my RBP 1080, the main chassis components get absurdly hot due to heat soak from the unibody chassis. PCH, SSDs, battery...they all feel the heat from the CPU/GPU. I've always thought about cutting into the bottom panel with a dremel and then mounting a small external fan under my laptop stand. This would force air through from front to back. I'm guessing both of these new fans are just upstream of the dual SSDs and should work wonders in keeping the mid section cooler. Not much can be done to mitigate the heat conducting to the front through the unibody though. Overall, I'm anxious to see how this thing runs.

 

I agree. Not many people know this, but CPUs and GPUs aren't the only things that get hot in a chassis. I make sure to mount small heatsinks onto SSDs as that ensures they stay really cool even during long transfers of huge amounts of data. The battery is especially sensitive, with many instances of blades bloating due to extreme heat applied to the battery

 

I’ve had two batteries bloat on my RBP. now I just run without a battery.


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Damn, that is horrible on a premium workstation laptop. You think the next gen will avoid this issue?

 

A similar cooler design as the RB15 would be more than sufficient I think, The previous Blade pro just had a very ineffective and strange cooling design.