New Razer Blade (2015)

Is there anyone suffering battery drain while 'plugged in' on 2015 model of RB?

I'm about to buy a 2015 model of the RB, But I still worrying about that issue. Because it happened to my 2014 model (with gtx870m)... was very sad..

So, It will be very helpful If you give me some informations!

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I'm debating on whether to go ahead and buy the Razer Blade 2015 or wait for the 2016 version to come out. I'm interested to see what good specs come out on the RB 2016 but the deals on the RB 2015 are really good. Which should l get?

Any advice is welcomed!!

 

Whatever deals there are on the RB15, there will be better ones once the RB16 is announced. At this point, I'd wait. It isn't that far off.

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Or consider this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-p640re-owners-lounge.781512/

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8640-s-clevo-p640re.html

Not as sexy a case, but much better value and will likely run cooler, also has the advantage of a Skylake CPU

 

Double, ups.

 

I don't see them adding anything sexier than DDR4 (no difference in bench tests with DDR3 yet, we'll see them in a year or more just like with DDR3 transition, so you'll be upgrading the specs "names"), 6700 HQ (read above regarding i7 4720HQ, maybe a 5 Kelvin diff in temps), or PCI-e (huge specs change, not much visual difference, 500 MB/s is too much already). So, nothing worth waiting for, IMHO, although it's something I wouldn't really say "no" to.

If time isn't a problem for you, wait, these upgrades (not coming all together for sure, maybe 2 of them at once) are still good; if it'd be somehow a problem just go for it now, there's a 200$ discount + free games for "fans" on their site ATM.

 

The big difference might be if Nvidia release a new 1070m GPU for the next Blade release...

 

Yeah, then after the 16, wait for the 17, then 18... See? It's an endless cycle. I always say buy whatever you can afford now, unless we're like, just a month away from a new release. Pascal (the new GPU architecture which the Blade 16 will presumably use) won't likely be out until the summer of next year.

However like @Oxford_Guy said, you should consider the Clevo P640RE as well as the MSI GS40. They are direct competitors to the Blade and much less expensive. With Razer, you're often paying a premium for the brand name.

Speak for yourself! I love dem Clevo curves.

 

Don't forget about Gigabyte's P34W line.

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Eh... it throttles. I wouldn't recommend it.

 

The only reason it throttled was due to the processor hitting over 90c. P34Wv5 with skylake should fix that.

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Also these two already have Skylake CPUs, unlike the 2015 Razer Blade, and both of these offer a matte FHD screen option (which is your best bet for gaming) which you can configure with 16GB RAM (or more!) and in the case of the Clevo, pretty much any drive size/combo you want (can both an M.2 SSD and/or a 7mm HDD or SATA SSD drive) - could even have it configured with no drives and just buy and install your preferred drive separately, though even the MSI GS40 offers more flexibility on drive options than the Blade.

It's not the Blade is a bad machine, but there are other alternatives out there that perform better than the 2015 model, have a wider range of configuration options, and are much more sensibly priced (especially in Europe, where the prices set for the Razer Blade are completely outrageous)

I don't mind the looks either, am perfectly happy with my XMG P505 (a rebranded Clevo P651SE)

 

P34 was throttling with the same processor Aorus X3 and Blade used, so same specs, less performances, still worst than competitors. Main reason why you should go for Blade is if you want a portable, hardcore strong machine, no matter what, Blade's got best chassis out there and is really portable, also the touchscreen makes it even more travels friendly /easy to use while occupied with different tasks. I literally fell in love with mine and I don't regret at all buying it over MSi GS40 which was my only other option. Not gonna deny tho that lack of memory sucks, although Samsung already anniunced 1tb m.2 sata for Q1 2016.

 

The other thing that bothers me about the 2015 Blade (maybe not entirely rationally, as the implemented solution does seem to work, up to a point anyway) is the way the heat pipes don't seem to have a proper interface with the CPU/GPU, instead just using big dollops of thick thermal compound (see: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/repaste-those-razer-blade-2015s-at-your-own-risk.771707/ ), which doesn't seem to be a very elegant solution and makes re-pasting pretty much out of the question. Compare this with the heat pipe to CPU/GPU interface the Aorus has, shown on the post of this page by LVNeptune: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...er-blade-2015s-at-your-own-risk.771707/page-3

The interface of the heatpipes to the CPU/GPU in my XMG-branded Clevo is more like the Aorus way of doing things, as I suspect is the new Clevo P640RE.

I hope Razer implement a better solution for their next model

 

Kind of random, but since Razer opened a store in Bangkok finally, I went in and did some tests on their 2015 RB 14" using realtemp. I found that on my repasted blade (using an HDT paste), idle and load temps were 8-13C cooler (depending on which core). That makes me pretty happy, considering how much time I spent trying to fix my heatsink.

edit: I didn't consider that maybe their laptops were all set to "high performance" and so they'd be upclocked all the time, where as mine is set to go to 0% if idle. The load temps were still about 8C lower, though.

 

Does anybody know the exact height of the heatsink fins?

 

Yup. 100% agree on your view of "buy now or wait?"

>> 90% of time time, the answer is always "Wait, until you can't wait any longer."
>> 9% of the time, the answer is "Wait, until you see such a good deal that you can't pass it up."
>> 1% of the time, the answer is "You need to buy now, but wait a bit more anyway if you can... because something significantly newer / better / faster / cheaper is coming in under 4 weeks."

With most Razer products, yes, you're paying a premium for branding (and the associated "gamer bling" that goes with that, like colored LEDs on mice & keyboards).

With the Razer Blade, you're actually also paying for the style & construction. You won't find a Windows laptop that has similar style, construction, and slightly larger dimensions as an Apple Macbook Pro Retina 13 (whether this is desirable or not is a personal choice).

I'd also consider the Aorus X3 Plus v5 ($2200) to be a pretty close competitor in terms of performance, size, weight, and price. What you're getting with the Aorus X3 Plus v5 today is mostly the Skylake platform... HDMI 2.0, Intel Skylake CPU, DDR4 RAM, USB 3.1 Type-C, and 2x M.2 NVMe slots.

 

The Razer Blade isn't for the price-conscious.

It's very overpriced for the performance that you get. But you're paying for the style & design, which you just won't find anywhere else.

Somehow, I'd bet that if someone like Asus / Gigabyte / MSI could come out with a 13" - 14" gaming laptop in all aluminum, they would. But those three companies are Taiwanese, which is a very price-sensitive market (especially price-to-performance ratio). Razer is a boutique American company that was founded by a Singaporean. They make different products to cater to customers with different levels of price sensitivity.

 

Clevo is known for selling very well-built chassis, and I'm sure the P640RE will be no exception.

 

They certainly have a better built chassis than MSI and Gigabyte models

 

The Razer blade does have a few flaws which shouldnt be present in such a high price notebook. The battery wears out real fast because of heat trapped inside the chassis, The memory modules SOLDERED onto the motherboard are quite cheap and the PSU doesnt seem to be that durable.

 

You forgot to mention that the wireless card has a blue wire attached to the antenna instead of yellow wire; which everyone knows is VASTLY inferior.

lol.. these posts make me laugh.

 

So you rather discard problems that a lot of customers DO have to deal with? It is a notebook in the highest tier pricerange. It should be of excellent quality. Now users report worn out batteries just out of their warranty and they only get a replacement by sending back their laptop. But yeah it makes you laugh right

 

Well, this laptop has issues because the concept of thin-and-light gaming laptops is relatively new. So computer manufacturers only have a few years of experience to see where their designs fail. It sounds like the Razer Blade starts having problems around heat affecting battery lifespan.

Yes, the laptop is expensive. But you're paying extra above a similarly-equipped laptop for the materials (aluminum body) and design (thin body, 14.1" chassis). You're not paying extra to get a perfect, flawless laptop that never fails.

Look at a Ferrari. It's one of the most expensive car brands in the world. And it's also known as a car that requires a LOT of maintenance. Nobody who buys a Ferrari, instead of a Toyota or Honda, expects that their car will be perfect and maintenance-free, just because it is expensive.


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I tried various laptops with the same specs and they all had the same problems. It is just not do-able at this time with a high rate of reliability. Aorus and Gigabyte have similar issues. Dont forget Apple can offer the same type of chassis for half the price. So in the end you DO pay for the reliability and the specs.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if future t hin-and-light laptops get some airflow over the other parts of the laptop internals... Especially as M.2 NVMe SSDs become more prominent. They generate a surprising amount of heat when going at full speed.


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will the razer blade support a M.2 NVMe SSDs like the samsung 950 pro?
and by support I mean, take fully advantage of it...

could not find the answer

 

I imagine future Blades will. Current Blades won't accept an NVMe/PCIe SSD at all.

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Hey guys! I'm selling my 2015 razer blade 256gb for 1799 if you're interested http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B012BSDEVK/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used . thanks! (also open for negotiations)

 

You have to use the buying/selling forum only. Your post will be deleted

 

Any word on when the skylake refreshments are coming?

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Has anyone found a good source to purchase replacement batteries from? I love my 2015 blade, but the rate of failing batteries (esp on 2014 models) has me concerned about longevity. If i need to buy a replacement battery, that's no big deal - I am more concerned about not having a way to purchase one if/when that happens.

 

Have you contacted support to see if you can purchase a battery if they can send you a replacement?

 

Razer won't sell any parts at all. It's too much of a profit for them to charge for out of warranty repairs.

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Thanks for the heads up, was strongly considering this but the fact they don't sell any parts for it will and I think all their RAM is soldered will probably lead me to a different vendor.

 

I have a 2015 blade that I love, but am selling for the same reasons. High heat = higher failure rates and the fact that you cannot source parts from anywhere scares me. Selling now before resale plummets or im stuck with a high repair bill =/

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If you have the FHD version I might be interested.

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I'm kind of stuck deciding if I want to keep my QHD+ or sell it and get a USB C notebook with integrated graphics and count on using an eGPU. I hope something very compelling comes out in the next couple months.

 

QHD 512. Its on ebay right now.

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I'd hold off on the USB Type-C eGPU docks for a bit. There are still a bunch of questions that are unknown

1) To my knowledge, I don't think there are any USB Type-C external GPU docks actually out yet.
2) When they are out, what are the compatibility / requirements for the base laptop?
3) Does the eGPU dock work on any laptop with USB Type-C? Is it dependent on hardware / firmware support from the laptop? The eGPU dock? Is it something as simple as drivers-only?

Something like the Razer Core (the USB Type-C eGPU dock that's paired with the Razer Blade Stealth) would be a great test candidate, when that eventually gets released. I'm sure someone will try and connect that to a notebook other than the Razer Blade Stealth, and get a lot of answers.

But until we get those answers, I'd hold off. We don't quite know yet how USB Type-C eGPUs will work with the different laptops out there that have USB-C ports.

 

Could I trouble someone to check their mW consumption on their blade? Battery software like batterybar will tell you the approximate discharge rate.

I want to check because this article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9634/display-and-battery-life-in-the-razer-blade-14-1080p-2015 notes that the QHD+ model's draw is about 12.5mW during light work and 16.5mW in the "heavy" work battery tests. Mine is about 12mW on idle and often spikes to 15-18mW with just chrome open not doing anything. This is on 0% brightness with "power saver" mode on and "battery saver" profile activated. Not only that, but I'm undervolted about -.50mv. Yet with chrome web browsing, I am getting just about 4 hours of battery. I'm wondering where the other hour+ of battery life has gone to.

Background apps in tray are throttlestop (monitoring on AC), skype, steam, and f.lux.

 

Chrome is pretty demanding, especially with a lot of plugins/addons.

 

I think I figured out that f.lux and throttlestop were keeping the wattage high.