Is the current QHD the same as the 2015 I.e. very glossy?
Also, what's the recommended 1TB hard drive for upgrading?
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As I"ve said, the QHD they use is old and it sucks by today's standards.
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I agree. Unless you absolutely must have touch, avoid the QHD screen.
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I have to admit, I'm a convert. Had the QHD (and defended it several times here), now have the FHD and love it. Colors look great, and it's nice not seeing my reflection.
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Hello, everyone.
I realize that this forum may lean toward Razer out of brand loyalty, but it also seems like many of the people here are relatively objective about their systems.
I'm trying to decide between the new Alienware 13 with an OLED screen, or the new Razer Blade with FHD. Both have the 1060. I prefer the look of the Razer, and I like matte screens, but I have an OLED TV and it is a stunning technology. my last laptop was an Alienware 14, and she was rock solid with not one single issue in the three years I owned it.
My more immediate concern, therefore, is Razer's quality. While I was at the Microsoft store today, the CSR recommended their extended warranty for the Razer, but with Alienware he suggested saving my money. When I asked why, he simply stated, "I'm basing that off customer issues we have seen, but both are good laptops."
So a couple quick questions:
1) I am METICULOUS with my laptops, so I'm curious if anyone has read reports of Razer laptops being retuned with a few new scratches or dings once sent in for repairs. Turnaround time is also somewhat important.
2) Again, from research or browsing forums, does Razer have a more significant quality control issue than Alienware? Or is it a matter of a vocal minority skewing perception?
3) Is appearance and a slight nod to portability the main reason why you chose Razer over other systems (Alienware, MSI, etc.)
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1) I haven't heard about notebook coming back with issues they didn't show before RMA, but I happened to receive back my notebook with partial fixes or faulty parts used as replacement and I've heard a few times about people returning their device up to 3 times in a row due to partial fixes.
I've also read that support is somehow fast once you are given the chance to ship your laptop, but getting there takes long since, if you don't make a lot of mess (hence you make them concerned about losing customers due to your posts on the net) they will only reply to your emails once every 24h (company policy, they say).
2) Quality control is ****, I'm aware of the fact people mostly post in forums just once they happen to have problems, while happy customers won't waste their time sharing their good experience, but I've read too damn many stories about people getting the "good" unit at second or third try.
What I've also noticed is that their very first units are f*cked up, while late warehouse is probably checked a bit more.
3) I went for Razer since, once you get your good unit and tweak it, it will be solid as hardware is high-end, materials are top quality, portability is the best, trackpad is awesome, keyboard is great (heard good things about new MSI refresh keyboard, which I couldn't try yet tho).
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Hello all! I'm looking at the this laptop with both fascination and fear. Thing is I won't be able to afford a new laptop soon if I buy it (probably like most of the people..) so I need it to last. (like 3 years would be considered 'good enough')
Does anyone have experience in making it run cooler to avoid any problems? Cooling pad suggestions etc?
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Most longterms issues are caused by the battery or the AC, AC isn't a problem since you might buy a new compatible one, battery would cost you to send it back to Razer, so better save it; doing what I mentioned made mine drop 3-4% health only in a whole year which is hella good.
Also do never ever close the lid under load (external monitor) or after a gaming session as it causes damages to the screen.
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As for the pad, I tried the best cooler master (in terms of flow) and a cheap plastic Chinese one and they made the same difference; apparently as long as the notebook is elevated most of the flow needed to cool down is provided, anything additive (additional fans) won't change much. -
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Could anyone say what FPS are they getting in modern games? (BF1, Witcher 3, Doom etc..)
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Tests posted in insiders forum show that, by disabling it, the notebook doesn't still get in the "dangerous zone", so it should still thermal throttle thanks to some different, probably more "standard", process at the really needed temps.
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I see! I mean I don't have the laptop yet but I think I will go or it and when I do I will definitely point my attention towards this issue. It seems it doesn't have too many issues and with proper care can withstand couple of years. I am not such a hardcore gamer as I used to be anyway..
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I recently moved from the 2016 970m to the 2016 1060m. As far as I can tell the fans are significantly louder in the 1060m model. Can anyone confirm? They also ramp up quite a bit when the laptop is plugged into an external screen via HDMI. Could be the optimus issues? My 970m was near dead quiet at idle. I can hear this thing idle easily. Considering returning and re-purchasing a 970m it is that much different.
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Has anyone had really bad heating issues with this laptop while gaming? I'm going crazy for almost 2 weeks trying to decide whether or not to buy this or maybe the msi stealth pro with gtx 1060 as well for better cooling but worse battery life
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As an owner of the 1060 model and someone whose been active on the Razer forums helping the community... using the throttle stop fix works very well. Temps are still well within safe operating range and games all run at appropriate FPS based on what a 1060 should. My blade runs within spec of Dave's video.
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I ended up buying one, but there is one concern I have. The brick gets pretty hot when it's charging up the laptop, even if I'm just using the laptop normally (i.e. web browsing, videos, etc.). Is that normal for it?
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Love this Video, My Apologies if this has already been posted but I really enjoy the side by side comparison of FHD vs QHD, and as you can see the 1080 screen is the way to go!! Hopefully this answers all questions that potential buyers may have about which screen to go with
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I am very happy with my laptop. My only initial concern was what I felt was lackluster CSGO performance, but after having other people test and looking at other older 6700HQ laptops, it just looks like that's how it is and that my 4700MQ is a better processor, at least in terms of games like CS:GO and how that utilizes the PC. Without any modifications my scores are only 2-300 points less in Firestrike for me than other 1060 laptops, that's not enough of a difference to make me upset or worried. ****, my Alienware 17 gets something in the 4 or 5k range when I run Firestrike, yet when I play CS:GO as I have mentioned, I get noticeably better fps and "performance" out of it than my Razer...so imo benchmarks are nice and all, but they are not necessarily representative of real world gaming. CS:GO is a little low on my Blade, yet Firestrike is higher, where as OW and GTAV are better, OW seems comparable to my laptop in terms of performance.
All in all I think I am very happy with this machine and will probably end up keeping it and not going back to Microsoft. Only thing I noticed one time though is I ran Firestrike and couldn't get above a score of 8100 when my stock scores previously had never been below 91-9200 and no matter what my machine gave me an 8100 3 or 4 times in a row, even turned on TS and afterburner and same results. I rebooted the machine and then I was back to ~9300ish stock and ~9800 with afterburner.
I wish I had BF1 as that seemed to be one of the main games people were reporting big fps dips mid game in, I believe Firebat was one of those people, but it seems like since he started using TS that has solved all of those issues so I am not too concerned anymore about testing that to make sure my machine performed well in it. Everything I play currently plays fine and I'm sure a lot of games I will play going forward on my laptop will run fine as well.
Highest temps I have hit as well have been 80 for gpu and 81 for cpu or the other way around and that was playing overwatch last night, and I can probably even turn the fps cap down and help that out, or turn the settings down. My Alienware used to hit 85-90 easy while I was playing CS:GO for a while (and it was on a cooling pad) after I had it for a year or 2 before I had to repaste. I think that's my only other concern about the longevity of the laptop. If it is hitting 80 degrees now, what's to say after using it for a year or 2 the machine won't start hitting 90 where it used to do 80, and repasting is not an option on this laptop so that's really my biggest concern about the possible future and longevity of the laptop as it gets more use. -
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Hello guys, I live in Brazil but my father that lives in the US just bought me a new razer 14" full hd 256gb....I will be picking it up in December. Very happy. I am wondering is it easy enough to open to change the ssd to the samsung 950 pro 512gb that I have? I understand about voiding warranty and all, it is pretty worthless anyways down here in Brazil...just wondering if opening the backcover and replacing is standard like in other laptops, even the ultrabooks more difficult kind. I imagine this has been answered but haven´t found the answer. Thanks.
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I am debating getting one of these with a core as an upgrade from my alienware setup. I prefer the portability of the razer products and the elegant design. My only concern is Razer's warranty. I have had to contact them in the past about a mouse and they were very slow to respond. The entire process took over 2 weeks and they said I wasn't covered. With the blade+core I am looking to spend over 2500, I want to know that I will be taken care of should something happen. I know with alienware, they were there to help and in the past they were great about this. I looked into squaretrade for an extended warranty and its nearly 600 for 2 extra years (minus discounts). Does razer offer an extended warranty, I looked into it and didn't find much or even a price. Would you guys as owners suggest a razer blade after owning one? I am also debating an alienware 13 OLED as I already have an alienware amp. I may just stay the course and get the alienware as I already trust them. Thoughts?
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@foamspoon It is audible in a quiet room/environment but not bothersome, however if you start doing anything somewhat intensive that is using cpu or gpu power it will start to get pretty loud. That being said, as long as I'm somewhere where there is a TV on in the background, or I have the sound on and using speakers or headphones/headset it is not bothersome however it might be for other people who are in the room and focused and immersed in the game like you are.
@MSGaldenzi If you are in the US go to the Microsoft store. I don't care if the closest one to you is 3 hours away, suck it up and go buy it there. 99 dollars for an extra year of warranty plus accidental coverage with a 99 deductible if something bad happens to it and it needs to be replaced. You cannot beat that. If this is not an option for you then I guess Amazon and Squaretrade may be your best bet but Razer does not seem to offer any additional warranty. You can order from Hidevolution but the prices are marked up, then I know nothing about their extended warranty and if you will deal with them or Razer but having to deal with Razer is a no no.
After looking around it seems this is just how the 6700 runs CSGO and my 4700 is probably a better processor for that cpu dependent game. I play with everything turned to the lowest quality settings for the optimal gameplay experience and that also upset people in the threads because "everyone else tests games at the highest settings so your fps doesn't mean anything at those settings", but I felt it did when a 3+ old machine was running the game better than this brand new laptop. I also had someone from this forum test the game on their MSI GS73VR and he was getting the same performance out of his laptop so I've just come to the conclusion that CS:GO/the source engine is just different than a lot of other games out there and is very CPU dependent and the 4700mq is able to boost higher on all cores (I believe?) and in turn effects that game more. I was really just concerned as if I ever hook up my 144hz monitor to it, I do not want it dropping in the 150 range or lower on other maps possibly. To be honest the times I have played it since my initial tests I don't even enable TS because I don't need that extra little bit of fps if it might help. Gameplay is smooth and I have no problems (however I feel like there is a difference between 100-150 or 250 fps in cs even on a 60hz monitor, maybe it's all a psychological thing but there is something about the game where the more fps you have the far smoother the game feels. All of my other games have been fine, temps have been fine, and CS runs okay and for the most part this is a portable laptop for me to have the option to play games when I am on the go so....at the end of the day if it won't run CS as well as my Alienware I'll suck it up and deal with it because it's more than playable, and this thing is far, far, far easier and lighter to carry around with me than my old AW.
For what it's worth though I was testing on Dust 2, lowest settings on everything except I had trilinear filtering instead of bi, Highest texture settings, and low or medium shadows and would run around on Dust 2 with bots getting about 200-225 in both spawns, then anywhere from 225 down to lows of 150 at some points depending where on the map I was and what was going on. Bots also hurt the fps I feel like, because when I played games online after that it felt like I wasn't getting quite as low of dips (and I don't mean "stuttering" dips like it sounds like you guys have in BF1, or had) but I keep forgetting to start a fraps benchmark for fps before I start a comp so I will have to do that next time.
Either way as I posted here and Insider forums I am more than happy with my computer and with TS and OC it only gets better so I really have no complaints. It's not like there wasn't info out there on the 6700hq before I bought the laptop so I should have looked into CS's performance more before committing to it but as I said I'm comparing a 3 year old 17 inch 10 pound laptop with a power brick half the weight of it, vs a 14 inch thinner than a dime ultrabook and getting comparable performance....wtf is there to complain about I love it.
Also I find it amusing how everyones focused on Firestrike (and granted some people are having issues in some games) but...my AW gets a score of 4-5k in Firestrike, vs a 9400-9800 of my Blade, yet CS:GO runs noticeable better on the "lower scoring worse AW" and some other games might run better or comparable but there's a lot a lot of games that the Blade would destroy the AW in. I just find it funny how benchmarks really do not translate over to the real world gaming scenarios, and how different every game can be in how it runs and what it utilizes and the overall performance compared to another. -
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Aaaaaaand... I'm done. These are my opinions (based on my experience). Please do not flame me for taking the time to inform others. Due to the subpar Razer QA, not all laptops are the same or even close by benchmark standards. I have not returned and re-ordered as others, so I only have experience with this one.
Why I decided to return my Razer Blade 14 (1060) (this first portion is a summary and a tl:dr area)
Too many compromises for a $2k price tag. I should not need to tweak and tweak to get average performance from the GTX1060 at this price.
While elegant and unparalleled in style, it just falls short of the advertised purposes (work + game). Too loud for CPU intensive applications. Too hot for lap-gaming.
My game style does not match the capabilities of this product.
First, let's give Razer props on making the cleanest, slickest windows machine ever. This thing feels and looks like Bruce Wayne's mac book pro. Not Batman, with his flashy car, but Bruce, with a nice Bentley. This machine does not scream gamer, it just exudes class.
The machine can get you great FPS on modern GPU intensive games under decent cooling conditions. (I'll get to that)
People are saying that it is loud, but honestly, I work in a corporate environment and it is just fine for normal/low processing tasks (browsing, email, powerpoint, light excel, coding). Unless you work in a dead silent space.
Now, let's bring it back to earth a bit. If you're going to bring this computer to the office, the noise level is NOT fine if you're using it for more process heavy tasks. Data crunching will utilize the CPU, and if you get anywhere past medium speed, it is obnoxiously loud in an office environment. (compiling code, encoding a video, etc...). If you're a student, you should be fine taking notes on it. But if you have to crunch data or do some CAD, the person next to you might be annoyed.
To clarify the "decent cooling conditions" comment earlier. I mean to say that If you plan to play games with high settings, you NEED to give this laptop room to breathe. So unless you're going to use it with a cooling pad on your lap (totally defeating the thin, lightweight feel) prepare for some high temps. Without any tweaks whatsoever (only updated drivers), the CPU ran to 89 C in a 25 C ambient room playing DOTA 2 on my lap. I was making sure NOT to cover the two exhaust vents at the bottom. Imagine playing an actual demanding modern game.
Now let's talk about the manufacturer's negligence
My initial Firestrike score was in the 8600s. notebookcheck.com's review of the GTX1060(laptop) model shows a minimum score of 9279.
I followed the conversation closely here and on the razer insider forums. I used all the tricks. Updating the drivers, uninstalling GeForce Experience and Killer suite, using a third party app (ThrottleStop) to prevent the premature throttling issues. All this, got me just under 9100. Without overclocking I cannot reach even average scores. People who overclock say to elevate the bottom so more air can flow. To my knowledge, Razer has not made a comment on this topic. Which has been extensively discussed in their forums.
The razer logo in the back of the laptop cannot be toggled on/off as it should be (some people have this option, while others do not). Razer admins are reportedly locking threads of this nature in their forums and suggesting contacting support.
The coil whining is borderline unbearable. It is heard even above the sound of the fans on their quietest mode. Why does my SSD laptop sound like it has an old HDD spinning in it?
Despite all these things I tried liking the laptop
But for me, and maybe some of you out there, after some testing I found that the 6700HQ CPU in these machines is not compatible with my gaming style. I like to play CPU intensive games like ArmA3, Squad, CS:GO, GTAV. The 6700HQ is locked and cannot be overclocked. The only mobile solution is the unlocked 6820HK found in other laptops, which will require a bigger chassis for better cooling. This is not a product problem, but something I thought would be useful for other users with similar gaming tastes.
Conclusion
I believe this laptop is a good product for those who want to really game on the go, just make sure you give it ample room to breathe. A student who will be using the machine to take notes in class (with its 4-5hr battery life) or a "professional" with huge lunch breaks who wants to game.
It is not a good fit for someone wanting to use its horsepower in a classroom or office. It is not capable of really gaming on your lap, because it gets too hot.
Prepare to tweak it. Until razer comes out with a fix, you have to initialize TS and an overclocking tool (3rd party software) to get average performance out of this machine.
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People point isn't that the notebook isn't performing well, obviously, nor that it's not slim, elegant etc. People point is that it costs more than competitors and offers less performances, real life ones (dips) and benchmark ones, compared to competitors with same HW and form factor, which OBVIOUSLY makes more sense to compare with, rather than with a 17" old AW (which could still give you an idea on improvements made by technology, but that's all).
If you'd gladly not care about it to have some more aluminium on your notebook, a better display and a better trackpad, that's fine and all, but I can't see why you can't understand how people don't feel comfortable with this tradeoff.
Note that I bought my RB 2015 when 6th gen was out already in Aorus and MSI laptops, I felt just like you regarding said things, so I dropped a bit of performance due to heat to get better periferals.
Also, most games are GPU (+ CPU) intensive right now, so saying "some may run better, some may not" doesn't make much sense as, unless you play CS, Arma, some old MMO or a few more games, you are stuck with an underperforming laptop; not to mention that they still run better on RB competitors.
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I still wonder why Razer isn't selling it's QHD+ screen outside of it's own website.
I checked out the FHD screen at the Microsoft store, and I must say that I am not impressed with it. My main problem with the FHD is because it is not a touchscreen...but beyond that, I would love the added resolution and clarity given by QHD+ screen. I think it also helps that I don't mind the reflections as long as there is minimal screen wobble. -
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I miss having a touch screens and there are times that I wish this had it, but a lot of people prefer the FHD screen to the QHD+ one. Also I have a hard enough time seeing 1080p on a 14 inch screen so I don't know how I would even use anything higher, and if I'm going to turn zooming on to 200% or something, why even bother with a QHD+ screen in the first place. I wanted a QHD+ originally but when I found out MS only had the FHD I didn't want to wait any longer and tbh I think it's great.
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Even though I prefer the glossy screens over the FHD matte, I would have definitely bought the FDH matte if was a touchscreen! Both screens are very good (bright, accurate colors, decent contrast), I just can't live without the touch!! lol
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So here is what Razer wrote me about me asking if I could get $100 off if I purchased from the MSFT store:
Hi Michael,
Thank you for contacting RazerStore.com.
We are very sorry to inform you that the Razer Core Credit promotion are no longer available.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused.
If you have further inquiries, please reply to this email.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Sincerely,
Team RazerStore
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I picked up a new Razer Blade for my fiancée and I at the local MS store today. I am a long time owner of Alienware and Apple products, so I'm viewing the laptop through that prism. We got the student discount and the MS extended warranty.
The Positives:
1) Jet black everything looks beautiful, and I love the chroma keyboard when set to the "fire" theme. It looks absolutely spectacular.
2) The FHD screen has zero backlight bleed, and is very bright. Impressed.
3) The 1060 graphics card is blazing fast- as expected.
4) Dead silent when cruising the internet.
5) The trackpad is better than I expected.
The negatives:
1) Build quality is simply not as good as Alienware, and especially Apple. I'm very disappointed that the laptop does not sit flush on a table. The right, front side bottom cushion is about 1mm higher and thus it doesn't touch the table, so the front corner of the laptop has a very, very slight wobble. Just enough to @#$ notice.
2) The outer edges of the laptop are "sharper" than the MacBook. I'm worried that the black finish will chip/wear off, as seen in the video by Dave Lee. Has anyone seen or read about that being an issue?
3) Disappointed that the cover's Razer symbol does not change color, as it does with the Alienware. That Razer symbol would look awesome with the fire theme. Likewise, I'm disappointed that the "Blade" title does not light up (like the Alienware) nor do the secondary function symbols (@,$,!, etc)
4) Speakers are...meh, especially compared to the 2016 MacBook.
5) System fans get loud when stressed (competing with the speakers), and benchmarks I ran in 3DMark placed it below other laptops with a 1060 and comparable hardware. But I'm guessing those form factors allow for much more robust cooling options, as they weight about a pound or more heavier.
The system is definitely a marvel of engineering, and I can see why some people love it. It certainly looks better than Alienware...but I can't help but wish it was designed and by Apple. Fit in finish is well above most PC counterparts, but trails the MacBook. I haven't decided what to do just yet. I LOVE the 1060 they managed to fit in such a small form factor. Apple could have absolutely done the same thing if they were truly concerned about performance over battery life. I play my games at 1080p, and the new MacBook GPU can handle that...at a $700 price premium.
Not sure what to do. I'm trying to be impartial. I know people bash Apple, but the extra $700 (which is by no means a small sum) gets you:
-A better screen
-A larger screen
-A much faster SSD
-Better build quality and engineering
-Better customer service
-Better speakers
-Better trackpad
Razer gets you:
-Better gaming performance via the GPU (video editing, music editing, etc, is more of a toss up due to the difference in operating systems. Windows laptops often trail a less powerful MacBook but the software suite makes a huge difference)
-Increased lighting customizations
-Better price/performance ratio
Despite this, it is clear Razer can someday lead the pack if they can reduce their quality control issues. This is the form factor Alienware should be using, coupled with that OLED screen.Last edited: Nov 23, 2016hmscott likes this.
Razer Blade 14" (1060 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge
Discussion in 'Razer' started by reloader-1, Oct 12, 2016.