Razer Blade 14 5900HX

kill a watt in time spy with custom full fans::
Acer vbios:
201 max on 20% gain vbios, 190 average
100-watt peak CPU only


OEM bios
155 peak, 140 average
CPU 100 average

I'm going to try the other bios too. hooked up via USB-c dp

 

somehow I keep getting double posts.... lol

 

Hey all. I posted in the razer forum a week or so ago asking about the Razer 14 for the upgrade. The question I have is with the 2022 refresh, is it worth waiting for that new version? I am upgrading from an MSI GS65 with a 1070 maxq 16gb ram, and 8750H cpu. The price difference between the 2021 and 2022 model is about $415 or so.

Thanks!

 

imho no for 400 is not worth for me is overpriced

 

I’d wait to see if other manufacturers are gonna be raising their prices by a similar amount. It’s seems these Ti gpu’s are gonna be expensive across the board. So if everyone is increasing prices by $300-$400 then it’ll be up to you if it’s with in you budget. Plus if the 3070ti performs as well as the out going 3080 then you might as well grab that one if the 3080 was on your radar. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the 3070 was still that sweet spot. Do remember you’re getting a Mux switch. Which is a pretty modest performance boost in if itself.

 

I hear ya. I figured the mux switch add on was good for 10-15% increase. Just not sure about the 6900hx DDR5 and 3070ti capes. The DDR5 and 3070ti stuff I've seen doesn't really show much improvement and with capped at 100w for the GPU I'm wondering if it'll be better.

 

Is it still 100w? I thought they bumped it up to 105w? Must be another machine I’m thinking of. So long as they got windows 11 all worked out since I remember it being a hinderance to amd when it first launched I think the overall hardware upgrades will make it better overall. The 3070ti has less cuda cores and lower boost clock to the 3080. But not by much. But with the G14 being all AMD I’m waiting to see how well that performs and what it’s priced at.

 

If you have yet to purchase one, wait until the end of the month to see the side by sides on youtube. Im sure Jarrod and others will compare them. I have the 3080 version, and it is super impressive. I also have a Razer 15 adv 2070 max q that has been stellar, but my wife is stealing that.

 

I just checked razers site. It says 100watts still. Not sure how that'll work out in comparison. I like the g14 as well but not that it's white. Also I need something by July and I think the g14 will be later than that for release. Correct?

 

I only heard the Q2 rumor the other day. So that could be April-June. July would be Q3. Hopefully it’s not that far out. But we will have to see.

 

Hi guys,

Receiving mine soon, pulled the trigger seeing how the next model will be $400 or so more expensive for what will probably amount to 10% better perf at best.
Did anyone play around with GPU undervolting on this laptop (3070)? My desktop has a 3090 that benefits a lot from undervolting because Ampere seems to be power constrained first and foremost. So I'd assume it would be even more interesting on a laptop. As in aim for similar/higher clocks at a lower voltage to get more out of the power limit. There's surprisingly little info from my searching.

Also, I see that many people here are trying different bioses, which one would you say is the best middleground between perf and temperature for the 3070 variant? The clevo 105W with the ports working sounds good to me but I'd rather ask you guys before I flash anything

 

you can test it out. I've reflashed the vbios on my razer 14 so many times, and I've only had it a couple weeks. I went back to the stock vbios for now to keep temps down. I think the biggest issue is the VRMs getting hot and driving up temps with the higher end vbios for the 3080. It is recommended you do some stress testing before to see where your temps are in different settings and go from there. You may need to upgrade your paste. I currently use Liquid metal on mine, but have taped off around the die on both CPU and GPU with kapton tape.

 

Anyone else put off by the latest Razer laptop prices? The 14 is my new favorite but the increase in prices was a bit shocking. Has Razer gone too far this year on prices? RB 14 3070 ti $2600 and RB 14 3080 ti $3500!!!

 

Welcome to 2022 Razer price , their CEO mentioned already last year. Probably other brand would also increase their price.
And I just commented on other thread 900 price difference is crazy, you can get PS5 and switch oled with that gap … wait if they have on stock.
The thing I like is 6000gpu igpu, rdna2, on battery probably it’ll perform way better than current blade 14, since the igpu is seemly pretty good to handle things on 1080p.

 

It's ridiculous. I think prices will be higher across the board for this upcoming generation of CPUs and GPUs given the extensive shortage of components, personnel issues, shipping issues, clogged ports...they all play a role. Can't wait to watch reviews of all the new Blades. I won't be buying one this time, but I enjoy watching all laptop reviews.

 

We’ll have to see how asus’s all amd G14 performs. They’re hinting at it being around the 3080 Razer blade for gaming. Plus amd has been cheaper in the past so if this is true it should really be the price to permanently 14” of 2022.

It really seems to be addressing everything the Blade 14 is missing also. 16:10 500 nit screen, up to 32gb of ram, and possibly better speakers. But it’s made of magnesium alloy which to my interactions feels like plastic. So we will have to see once it’s available.

 

If only AMD allowed undervolting of their mobile CPUs. Hopefully they will with this new gen. Agree, Asus' offerings, particularly the G14 look interesting.

 

Speaking of which I’m very curious how the new 6000 series amd CPU’s are gonna fair compared to the intel CPU’s. Those low powered cores are gonna be a lot more beneficial to laptops than they are to desktops. But AMD has been doing very well making power efficient parts so far.

 

Alder lake still using intel xe 96EU same with 11gen but amd use rdna2 iGPU which performs crazy, can run far cry 6 60fps, really!? That will smoke Intel Xe which means using this laptop you can get reasonably FPS even on battery when they make software profile which allows iGPU running instead dGPU on battery power. So far on battery I prefer playing switch than playing thing on blade 14 so laggy.

Or notchbook pro, that can run on battery tomb Raider 400fps LoL

 

Something to keep in mind FSR for 1080p looks horrible. So don't expect these numbers for anything that doesn't have FSR, and for the games that do don't expect it to look good.

 

That would be an interesting test to see honestly. I didn't even think of that. Hmm. . .

 

I see, however I’ve intel xe 96EU (which’s being used on alder lake CPUs) on book 13 and far cry 6. I’ll check later how it performs compared apu on 6000 series. Hopefully it doesn’t have compatibility issues which’s usual on intel drivers compared to AMD. Intel Xe 96EU was more powerful than apu 5000 series and since 6000 use rdna 2 apu (also being used on upcoming steam deck), poeple saying it’s more powerful than intel xe and 5000 series apu that being used on handheld pc like Aya pro and gpd win 3.

 

Hey, sorry that i quoted this Post, but do you have found a vbios for Blade 14 3070 with more wattage and working DP USB C ? I tested the Blade 17 Pro 130 one, works with Like 110 Watt, but No DP Out.. thank you !

 

Both didn’t work? I’m using it now literally, last time using external monitor was on right side usb C one using DP adapter was working fine. Let me look now. Btw I think I had similar problem before, try update or reinstall the Nvidia driver maybe. And yes I think I never see it hitting 120 watt on OSD, probably there’s some bios limitation that we can’t figure it out yet, like for example couldn’t get other brands 130 watt working properly (apps shut down or graphic glitch).
Edit: Left side usb C doesn’t work as DP, only as usb C data transfer but on the right side both usb C and hdmi ports are working fine. So maybe for those who need left side DP this bios isn’t great.

 

Thanks for your reply. I Just tested the left one. Will try the right one now

 

Yes it maxed like 111 watt On 100 gpu usage, but better than default one, and can score 10k average on default synapse profile for 3070 mobile on this form factor is great (This year first time this pro bios TS run default costum high synapse external monitor, with gs66 vbios you can get more but hotter temperature and stupid cpu power draw read on OSD as trade off so this is sweet spot imo)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25795035

GS66 vbios timespy (less 200 points because of new 2tb ssd I think, before was 11+K overall on original SSD)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25430394

 

Nice ! Does the dp also works in this vbios ?

 

Yes but if it’s both not sure. That 11K was on external monitor since I tried to get best score once to surpass 11085 high end gaming PC score mark but didn’t succeed, was like 50 or 60 points less I think.

 

Hey all,

Just got a Blade 14 w/ 3070 and I haven’t been able to get it charged above 73%. Is this a feature like the one some other laptops have where you can limit battery charge to a certain threshold? I’m also getting really high CPU temps using literally any mode configurable on Synapse, 90-100 Celsius while gaming which seems pretty wild. For now I just set a temp limit on Ryzen controller but I’m wondering if I should repaste

 

Wait few days let the unit optimising itself through windows update etc. I think I never heard there’s charging limitation on blade laptops usually stay on higher 90ish percentage. Try changing performance profile, quite weird though sometimes I had also high temperature even on balance mode switch it on costume boost high lower the temperature lol, probably software bugs where the fans isn’t working correctly as it should. Yes safest way using ryzen controller but recently I don’t use it anymore. If you’re used to repasting laptops I think it’s better than most oem factory repasting job, but I’d check idle temperature first if it’s fine on 40 to 50ish most probably not thermal paste issue.