Razer Blade 14 5900HX

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21011793/spy/20830966
Idk what to say That’s nice and odd, balance mode is conservative power throttle Razer mode. They should put costume mode the best performance. Nice find though, really useful for trolling on Razer forum .

 

See! Plugging it in did work!

 

I don't know why this is either, but I'll take it! Also just idling / internet the fans are completely off which is nice.

I know right!

 

Damn, not sure if it’s because different areas or drivers things, but on 1080p, it beats 3080 165 watt variant (GE66 i think) on RDR2 .
Tell me if I missed something.

2,4kg mix plastic aluminum metal noticeable bigger GE66

1,8kg sturdy cnc aluminum unibody with some areas like display frame plastic made lighter blade 14.

Edit: never mind I saw on blade 14 it’s not all max some setting on bottom catched on medium, still though.

 

I would comment, but my brain seems to be broken tonight.

Maybe Razer just made a good machine finally?

 

Yes it’s first time it got my attention again, after blade 15 redesign. Book 13 okay for ultrabook but could be better with a dGPU. And also first time confused on bought 2 models lmao, back then only 1070 and 1060 which was no brain choose.
Thanks to uncle Jensen 2021.

 

I think it’s time you retired that blade 15. Do it.

 

This blade 14 doesn’t have mux switch apparently so you can boost performance by bypassing optimus using all output ports as Jarrod mentioned theoretically.

No it’ll continue run as upcoming blade 14 stand, like that Applebook under the blade 15

 

I get 9400 with only a simple GPU overclock on my 15 adv so I would say very similar. I love benchmarks but without knowing what a person did it may not help so much. I've seen laptops taken apart and on an air conditioner, custom bios and windows tweaked to the point you can't do much else etc.

I will say, this looks very promising for a smaller form factor to be competitive with a larger one. I'd be interested in it if it wasn't for a few downsides for what I require in my config. (lack of SD slot, 2nd M.2 slot, or mux switch)

 

The soldered RAM is the biggest issue for me. My daily workflow pushes the limits of 16 GB. The fact that 32 GB isn't an option, even for the highest-tier config is a huge oversight.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...17-Performance-At-Half-The-Size.546754.0.html

 

They didn’t lie!!! But RTX 80 lmao!!

“Whenever we see a superthin laptop that promises Core i9-level performance with GeForce RTX 80 level graphics, we're always wondering what compromises had to be made behind users' backs. You just can't simply squeeze hardware designed for thick 17.3-inch form factors into a small 14-inch laptop without cutting some corners.”

 

Yeah for some it’ll be a trade off, hopefully they’ll make that vapor chamber smaller in next generation, but how the thermal performance, well smaller 5nm chips, to make room for other m2 slot…but maybe it’ll be not the world slimmest 14 inch . This is hard on this form factor, we have to live with dongles like Apple, maybe.
But hey mux switch, to by passing optimus you can use all ports, hdmi and usb c, it’s connected directly to gpu apparently.

Yes this’s I agree, even not slotted they should put solder 32gb for 3080. €3K variant.

 

Honestly I think they should add a MUX switch or Advanced optimus to this thing. 32GB would be nice, but just having the option on all configurations would be a nice gesture. Even if it was soldered.

Hopefully in future versions we can get some way to hook up an eGPU to one of these. With how small this thing is and how powerful it is, this would be my pick for a laptop to hook up to an eGPU. Though I wouldn't want to see something like the Asus flow x13 with a proprietary connection.

 

The Blade 14 RTX 3060 vbios can be flashed. I tried flashing some MSI vbios with a max 130 watt TGP and it actually worked. Nvflash version 5.692. I flashed right back to the stock Razer vbios because I don't want to brick or fry the laptop. I was mainly curious whether it would work and it does, so I can maybe flash some safer TGP vbios later on.

The Time Spy results are great. Overall score 8977 and graphics score of 9018. Used a +150/+100 OC in Afterburner.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21035804

 

That is awesome. Definitely not sure if it's safe though.

 

It is a 115w base +15 dynamic, don’t think it stays at 130w. It is from the MSI GE76.

 

That’s another nice found, did you not found anything unusual when using MSI bios, like output ports acting weird or so? That’s nice to catching 3070 or 3080 big bros. Power adapter being used it also same with bigger blade so delivery should be fine only heat or vrm can handle it no one know maybe.

 

Can anyone with the FHD 3060 model tell us how the screen is? Any ghosting? Ty

 

I found that GPU power was not reported correctly in Afterburner or GPU-Z. It showed max 28 watts which clearly is off haha. I also tried using a 105w vbios but is essentially the same as stock. So I’m sticking with stock until I find another 130w vbios that works and outputs correct wattage readings.

 

Screen has visibly less ghosting than my G14. I have no way of measuring, need to wait for more reviews.

 

Ok as promised I’m gonna be playing on the Blade 14 today. Gonna get Kingdom come deliverance installed for later. Did about 25 minutes with The Witcher 3. As you can see the CPU got toasty. It would fluctuate in the mid to high 80’s at certain points. But compared to the G15 I tried that had liquid metal on the CPU this is roughly the same temps. Which is surprising. I would like to see lower. But at 80 percent volume I could comfortably play the game with out headphones the fans didn’t drown out the speakers. So that is impressive atleast.

This was with all custom settings in synapse turned all the way up, 1440p resolution, and Ultra presets in the game.

 

That's better temps than I would have expected, my Blade 15 with 2070 Max-Q normally runs high 80's on the CPU during gaming. Being able to keep the max CPU temp under 90 while using a smaller chassis and higher draw GPU is pretty solid imo.

 

I was definitely expecting hotter. Figured the high temps on the CPU would bleed over to the GPU. But that isn't the case it seems. I guess a good vapor chamber is as good as a traditional cooler with liquid metal.

 

Same game running similar temperature with blade 15 advanced…wait I limited Turbo boost to 3,6ghz LoL, and it’s 25 watt super throttled balance mode for 8750H. Maybe that’s because 14nm Intel.
Uncle Min on the keynote said this’s unlocked CPU how we can unlock it, is it kind of cpu OC?

 

Found a good vbios for the Blade w/ RTX 3060 for anyone who cares and wants to try. Asus G17 2021 which is 115w + 15w dynamic boost (130w vbios) works. USB ports all work, fans work and turn off at idle, and power is reported correctly. I did not try HDMI yet but I expect it to work. Just did a run of Time Spy. Power ranged from 120w to 125w, using a modest +125/+100 OC in Afterburner. I think this is fairly safe to use while gaming. I have Razer Care Elite...

Scored 8857 overall, 8862 graphics. Will test games when I have time later. Happy with my new "3060 max-p" Blade.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/62962490?

*Edit - I do not recommend doing this without reading more about flashing, for those who have never done this or hope for a quick and dirty GPU boost. You can brick your shiny new Blade. I'm probably lucky the MSI vbios that caused readings to get wonky didn't brick it. As long as you know what you're doing and ---ALWAYS--- make a back up of your stock vbios, you should be OK. Have fun!

*Edit 2 - I tried Borderlands 3 and F1 2020, power ranged from 115w to 123w which is a nice little boost from the ~90w I saw with stock vbios. GPU temps were good, max I saw after 5 minutes of playing both was 75 degrees.

 

I saw some 5900hx scored over 10K, you know if there’s tweak for that, or this’s already sweating for the system. I think some ryzen 9 5900HS scores similar cpu performance or maybe better…or worse. Not familiar with this AMD CPUs, first time in my life using it, soon.

 

I am not sure either, very new to AMD laptops as well. The CPU already runs pretty warm so not sure how much more can be squeezed out of it?

 

Definitely curious to see what temps are like consistently with this bios. Also, how would you recommend backing up the old bios to reflash in the case of a problem?

 

Here’s Kingdom Come Deliverance. This one was a bit odd. The CPU was hovering around 77C at 3400mhz most of the time. But it seems when you enter more populated areas the CPU would spike up to 4400mhz and hit in the low 90s. This was with Very High presets. Very playable.

Honestly the Blade 14 is pretty solid for how small it is. Once again no issue using the speakers and not being bothered by the fans.

 

Use GPU-Z to save a copy of the stock vbios.

 

Thanks. Are you still operating with the msi bios? Any issues thus far under load?

 

sopiguard said they will have skins ready by june 28th for the new 14.

 

No, that one gave me issues with fan ramping up at idle and incorrect power readings. Don’t use that one haha.

I’ve been using the Asus G17 130w vbios and all is well. No issues at all under load. Gaming wattage has been 115w - 125w and temps are fine.

 

Nice. What other laptops are comparable performance to what you're getting?

 

I believe Asus strix 3060 scores out of box around similar, and maybe 3060 maxP (115 watt) laptops scores around 9K highest one on timespy without tweaking things, not sure about legion pro 3060.

 

My 14 Blade w/ 3070 will be here a couple days early, arriving tomorrow (likely late in the day).

I've had my fun with my Area 51-M R1 (9900K de-lidded, 2080, 64GB, 2TB R0) - but while it was hyper dope at release, over time I've grown increasingly frustrated with it, and nowadays the performance doesn't justify the size.

Considering I'm primarily playing FFXIV and R6:Siege, alongside Halo MCC, there's really not a tremendous need for the dekstop CPU. I'm wagering that the mobile AMD 5900HX may honestly keep up. If I can get 80% of the real world performance for a third of the weight and size, I think that's worth it. Excited to tinker throughout the weekend.

EDIT: Went back and forth on the 3080. I can afford it - but considering the thermal limitations and heat even the 3060 is generating (alongside that GPU), I just don't imagine getting more than an extra 5 fps or so in most games. If we were teetering RIGHT AT 60fps on a lot of games, I'd maybe splurge, but it seems like most the games I play will easily hit 80+-100+ FPS, so an extra 5% ain't that exciting or important. If the extra $$$ would have also included 32GB of RAM, I'd have done it.

 

Did you use nvflash to flash the new VBIOS? I get my Razer Blade 14 with 3070 tomorrow. I want to flash the same VBIOS as you did (of course 3070 variant). Do you know were I can get it?

Today in Germany a huge online store made a mistake with discounts so I got my Razer Blade 14 3070 for 1835€. Will repaste it with liquid metal

I think I found it, is it this one?

VGA Bios Collection: Asus RTX 3070 8 GB | TechPowerUp

 

That's awesome congrats! Yes I use Nvflash version 5.692. Techpowerup has all the vbios files, just scroll through and read descriptions as best you can, and keep your fingers crossed the flash doesn't brick your Blade!

I am so curious to see if people can flash 3070 vbios, the performance should be great.

 

The Legion 5 Pro I believe scores a bit over 9000 on graphics with OC. I got 9018 graphics score in another run yesterday with a little more OC (+130/+300). The HP Omen capped at 100w scores about 8100 based on some videos I saw, which matches the 14" Blade at stock. Basically mine now runs similar to any other laptop with a 115w 3060, maybe a tad slower Time Spy score.

 

You meant Saturn? They have it for €300 off both models, I got from them. But I’m on all ears if there’s cheaper option.

 

The real test is gaming tests. Since those benchmarks don't always translate to direct performance numbers in games. My 3070 seems to be out pacing the G15 which has the same TDP. Razer definitely worked some magic with these machines.

 

Yeah on this review blade 15 3070 advanced (10 gen), it even beats 3080 g15. I thought it’s intel amd things on gaming but not was also suspicious with their RMA, apparently on AMD cheaping the ram timing impact the gaming FPS. If blade 14 use cheap ram we’ll be xxxxed

 

No MediaMarkt. They did two discounts on my order. 10+15%

 

Man I over paid for mine with everyone getting discounts.

 

From Razer directly you’ve to forget getting great discount unless you know Razer top yakuzas , since 2019 retailers has better deals. Stealth 2019 was also like 16%, was vat free deal, book 13 was like 38%, was due Nordic keyboard, who buy a Nordic keyboard here in Germany LoL.
I thought I was lucky enough to get 16% off, (direct €300 and payback, but man some one got also nice deal). Yeah for me and maybe some other we wait till there’s Bett deals, unless we need the thing ASAP.

 

Yeah I’m more of a Viking than a Yakuza. So that’s my problem. It is funny how buying directly from Razer is basically the worst way to get a blade.

 

Same with other, like for example Apple, was kind idiot when it was a fanboy. Buy directly plus Apple care etc, knowing if you can wait a bit from Amazon or other retailers you don’t have to buy Apple care at all, with retailers guarantee here, I could even get 3 years “Apple care” for the same mrsp on a retailer here or sometime lower price if they put deal of the product which’s rarely though. The thing is there are Poeple who need the unit right now or wait for it like for long time and think it’s a perfect device for him who doesn’t care spending money on mrsp, but there’s also Poeple who couldn’t hold their horses on a new products, like me . I didn’t think of getting blade 14 though since my current rig fits me well looks same with my 15, but man, idk it just natural instinct, found some deal, rip my wallet and get it.

 

Yeah true. Once we can travel again safely something this small would be more preferable than my beast X170. Could take this as a carry on. Still think this thing is gonna kill the Blade Stealth off. Only a little bigger with so much more performance.