Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

I'm not sure! Glad other people know about the problem. Synapse will still start, but not quickly. It's faster to launch it myself.
Someone let us know if this gets a fix

 

Well actually I just added to the Task Scheduler a task for Razer Synapse, and now at every boot I have it loaded and moreover it solved my problem with keyboard layouts as well

 

I tried the same thing, but it still takes an eternity to start randomly.

 

That's weird, for me it does it right after I logged in, but still I hope there'll be a better fix than that

 

Ok thankyou I may get the 960 Evo too. I hear the Intel 500gb nvme is cooler and more power efficient if your not fussed on speed.

 

Hey guys, I’m in the market for a new gaming laptop as my new daily driver. It would replace my 6 year old desktop PC and would accompany me on trips to the library for research and at home for gaming. I really much like the appearance and hardware of the Razer Blade 15. I would opt for 1070 Modell with 256 gigs, just to repalce the SSD witz a 1 TB Evo 960 or 970.

Ive read about the first 100 pages in this forum, but didn’t find the answers to my questions:

How are the exact measurements for the power supply? The Razer page just says about 700 grams, but doesn‘t say anything about the other dimensions (length, width, height). Can someone of you help out here?

How long are you able to work (light office tasks, e.g. word/excell/powerpoint and light web surfing) with the display on 60 Hz without the need to charge the notebook? I’ve found everything from 3 hours to 7 hours. 5-6 hours of realistic battery life would be more then enough for me, everthing over 4 to 4.5 hours would be more than my macBook deliveres.

How scratch resistant is the notebook? I would hate it to be a scratchy mess in a year or so and would rather opt for a dbrand skin in addition to a propper case for transport then.W

 

I have ordered the matte black skin with no logo just in case. I think it will scratch very easily.

 

What SSD / nvme should I get for 500GB and reducing heat / power usage from the stock SSD?

 

Hi I actually use it with the 60hz display, bt keyboard and dock station daily. It's a base model so 1060maxq. It works for me around 6 hours with proper throttlestop profile. Speedshift 128. Undervolt -135, core limit to 32. It's perfect for lightwork. On battery I do webbrowsing, Photoshop edditing and InDesign. The problem is that razer switch to dGPU once you are connected to external display so I don't know what would be exact time with 1070. Probably around. 30 minutes up to 1 hour less than my setup. Regards!

 

I will try that thanks! So you just enter the BIOS and select default settings? Does it change anything since I was not default at first?

 

Here is the Razer product page for the 230W power supply that comes with the RB15. https://www.razer.com/gaming-accessories/razer-230w-power-adapter It has its dimensions.

There is also a marginally smaller 200W version which is labeled as working with the RB15, but I’ve not heard of anyone using it.

The battery time can vary vastly depending on how you set the laptop up. There’s all the power plan settings of course, then the processor state (ie turning off turbo), display brightness, rgb lighting and - a big one - you can use Throttlestop to set a setting called SpeedShift EPP to its max value, 255 (iirc), which will basically keep the cpu downclocked unless really needed (and for the sort of work you’re talkig about while on battery I doubt you need much cpu processing power). That can extend battery time hugely.

 

You were told right. Not worth the effort. Stock graphite based paste does the job.

 

What about going to Liquid Metal?

 

I have a job for you guys if you're up for it. I need to compile as much possible data about power limit throttling as possible. I want to keep it fairly short and to the point but with proof of it happening. This will all get forwarded to the engineers for Razer and will hopefully lead them to fixing it via bios/ec update, or even allowing us to tweak it as some other models do. Therefor instead of me scrolling through 187 pages to find every account of it.. if you have the time and can either post here (or even PM me to avoid flooding the thread) I will make sure the information gets forwarded. I am in direct contact with Razer and assure you on top of this issue above everything. Thank you all in advance for your continued support and feedback!

 

So about to clone the 256GB ssd on my buddies GTX 1060 model. He went ahead and snagged a 1TB NVME SSD. Any particular software/steps I should take to clone it over?

 

FYI. Razer + it's engineers won't fixing it via bios/ec update before they are quite safe that the RMA (Returns numbers) can be keep on lowest possible values. They have learned this from it's past. See link posted Razer sold fewer than 1000 Blade Pro systems in all of 2016

"Outside of the low Blade Pro sales, it's also worth noting that a good chunk of Razer's expenses has been funneling towards returns and warranties. According to the same report, the manufacturer spent 15 million USD in 2016 for warranty fulfillment to represent 4.8 percent of its revenue for that year."

Holding lowest possible repair cost down will beat your desire for fixing this power limit throttling mess.

And for the records... Most of the OEM manufacturers often start cripple performance via firmware/software after a while if they can see the RMA numbers increase on levels they don't like.This happen after a few months after the release of the models. If the RMA numbers can stay very low they could/can of course increase the Performance via firmware/Ec fix if they was too low from the beginning. But it's a luck of draw.

Good luck with tryng to get forwarded this to the engineers for Razer. If you had the RMA/Return numbers,This would of course be easier for you. But you won't get thembefore the press release it as showed in the link.

 

Would it be helpful if we could all provide a standard way of evidencing it? One example might be running Cinebench and an hwinfo data log of temp/multiple/package power? What info do you/they need apart from “it happens to me”?

 

Use Intel's own tools. Approved by Intel for testing and diagnosis. Razer or any other OEM manufacturers will most likely not approve use of anything else for Cpu tests.

You could of course add in Heaven or similar graphics test suite for taxing the whole system (Cpu+Gpu).

Download Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/19792/Intel-Processor-Diagnostic-Tool.

Intel® Power Gadget | Intel® Software
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget-20

 

What are you guys considering as power limit throttling? When it can't hold a sustained 45W at load?

 

Hey guys, wondering how the VR experience is on this machine with a 1070 MaxQ? Is it smooth?

 

They are referring to the throttling to 35W under load even on the gaming profile.

 

Is that still the case? I thought that Super Gaming mode solve all this? I was just reading, I don't own one though.

 

There’s no super gaming mode Sorry maybe it was made by me I meant own overclocking profile that could reach full 1070 laptops performance. On default gaming mode it’s 100/300 on default to get that performance on mine 200/600, some other user can do 230/600~ to get better performance because of better gpu silicon lottery.
That power limit throttle isn’t issue for me personally for the performance I’m satisfied enough...getting more stable on higher wattage will be nice though, but maybe thermal will be also higher.

 

Jump to 18:00 this guy Blade after I saw carefully again throttling under 35 watt on stress test (cpu max), when I’m not wrong (not at home right now) mine on stress test like prime95, lowest (and mostly )is 35 on balance and gaming at 45 watt.

 

What are the chances that if I buy this it will perform out of the box as advertised? It seems a lot of people are repasting and throttling to keep temps down.

If I just buy this off amazon and don't open it up am I in for a nasty surprise?

 

Lmao Amazon would be your best bet. I'd say 50/50. I've had the launch blade 15 144hz and the new 4K one. Here is my experience with customer support. https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/95rptt/razer_customer_support_truly_the_worst/

 

What I observe yesterday playing with XTU was quite strange. If you don't undervolt and start stability test in XTU it will light from time to time power throttle. If you undervolt and you are on auto fans, CPU will balance around 45 W and will stay there for some time if CPU temp goes near 90 it will fall toward 35 and then go up again to 45, but no power throttle and will stay on 3.9GHz indef. If you have allot of cooling, e.g. LM and new pads or you put fans on max or both, CPU will start on 60 W then fall on 45 and will powerthrottle and instead staying on 3.9 GHz it will fall to 3.6GHz. Also if you stress more parts of the CPU chance to stay on 45W but on low frequency is big, especially if you stress FPU, e.g PrimePI SmallFFT it will stay near 3.3GHz

 

Yes.. Ideally I would be nice to see XTU and the graphs where it actually shows the numbers and spikes as it power limit throttles. This is what I sent in for the engineers to look at and I think that would streamline it.

 

I am not confident in removing that display cable for the repasting.

Does the repaste with Kyronaut make much diff in temperatures?

 

In all honesty, not to sound like a jerk here but that's among the least of your worries when dealing with Kyronaut, I'd say you should be more concerned about spill over leaks that could ruin the mainboard. As far as the tabs just take your time and watch a few videos as they both show the removal process and how to remove them.

Good Luck!

 

he said kryonaut, not conductonaut he does not need to worry at all

 

Seems like the newest Blade 15 model don't have the black powder coating on their heatsink... wtf Razer

Thread 1 (turns out the issue isn't HK only)

Thread 2

 

I think you are confusing Kryonaut with Conductonaut (which is the conductive liquid metal).

 

Oh well if that's the case there is no point in doing kryonaut there isn't going to be a significant difference between stock and that. At least not to me. between what you pay for and the work to get in there and install the gains don't seem worthwhile in the slightest. Better go with Conductonaught

 

Oh wow that's a bold move Razer, it does seem like they were testing the water.

 

Many ways to save a few pennies. Small stream can reach a large river

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/95vwmx/my_hong_kong_version_rb15_2018_heat_sink_are/e3x9zrk/

 

I have a rare, black heatsink edition razer blade for sale, $3000

Kidding. All jokes aside, the bottom panel will likely get hotter but the CPU may maintain 1 or 2c lower if I could guess how this may impact performance. I like my black paint though thank you.

 

That's it lol, keeping my Razer Blade 15 for sure as is.

 

So that Black coating is to keep heat not reaching bottom panel? I don’t gaming on my lap, but if it really reduce cpu temperature I’m not against it. Black vapor chamber is nice and match other parts inside but most of time i don’t see it on my daily usage

 

Is this meant as a Joke?

And Razer’s several hardware engineers or QC personnel can guarantee no boiling SSDs?

As I said in my previous posts. This is about lowering costs.

 

The purpose of the costing is to retain heat inside the chamber, without it the heat will soak everything around it. Most laptops use pipes but the vapor chamber will likely throw out a ton of heat. The dissipation of heat would be helpful for CPU temps but not for every component around it, or your lap. The longevity for the unit could suffer from this move. Razer and their 1 year warranties... I highly advise everyone purchasing a blade from this point forward to buy from a Microsoft with an extended warranty.

 

It’s Razer. They don’t mention anything until being called out on Social Media. I had the same thing after posting my problems with CS. Totally agree. I have the new blade 15 4K and can confirm no black coating.

 

Just looks like a half finished product to me!

 

In forced air examples such as this vapour chamber design your right.

 

Ah, you’re the one with 4K copper color vapor chamber. Didn’t you have FHD one before? Is there any temperature improvement with that uncoated model?

 

It seems that various persons here have unpainted units. Have you noticed any impact on performance or temps? Could you post some benchmarks or HWMonitor screenshots or something?

I personally don't own one, but I'm seriously considering buying one. But for that kind of money I'm kind of reluctant. I also was considering buying the Aero 15X but it is plagued with software issues and crashes very often if you don't have it properly set up.

 

I’m also curious about that, saw also ssd thermal pad applied by them from factory, it also cost money if anyone think that they only do that for lowering production cost, there’s a difference between “reducing cost” and “Kaizen” (improvement). I asked also user that reported it on Reddit if there’s thermal issues, no answer yet. Ended up with conclusion that there’s thermal improvement with that. To me lower temperature means more room for overclocking So I would send mine to them to exchange vapor chamber if there’s some advantages for user without that coating and break magic 15,5K Firestrike

 

So my 2TB M.2 SSD has memory chips on both sides. Is it ok for me to put thermal pads on both sides? Just want to make sure it does not cause any issues with the system board.

 

Haha I do have a copper color vapor chamber. Yes I also had the FHD one as well. I have worse temps on my 4K model compares with the prior FHD Haven’t figured out if it’s a bade paste job or the copper yet.