Razer Blade Pro 17" (1080 GPU/late 2016) Owner's Lounge

and jumpwired provides yet another reason. thanks.

 

After one year with the Razer Blade Pro here are my findings;

The model of RBP tested was late-2016 with the 7700hq cpu and gtx1080.

For the majority of games I was able to run at high framerates within 10-15% of my Desktop gtx 1080 system typically on external 1440p 144hz or 1080p 240hz panels.

Performance of the 1080 is good, with a slight overclock of 72/109. Playing PUBG on an external 2560x1440/144hz display I am able to average over 100fps and within 10% of my Desktop gtx 1080 system which gets closer to 110fps.

The problem with the RBP late 2016 was not the CPU or the underpowered gtx 1080, in my case the only issue has been the screen (and the loud noise, definitely use headphones a laptop stand to keep it from overheating).

After becoming used to higher refresh panels going to 60hz is just not an option. Even with Gsync and running games at 1080p there is a noticeable difference in the lack of frames on the screen. The fact that Razer doesn't even offer a high refresh display on any laptops is pretty odd considering they are supposed to be a gamer centric company.

In the end you are always better off with a laptop screen that can support 120hz+ and that's why ASUS, MSI and Dell have the better options along with any argument you could have regarding gtx 1080/1070/1060 performance and throttling.

The best option for a gaming laptop at the moment would be a Dell 17r with gtx 1080 and 1440p 120hz panel, which is also about $1300 less than the current RBP price…

 

Nice update thanks, I have to agree about the difference between 60 and 120Hz, I'll never go back now!
What settings are you running PUBG at, my 17 R4 averages under 100fps on that on my settings (everything maxed) and if you look at explosions or smoke in the game then forget it, down to 40FPS :/
It's a horribly unoptimised game though. Have you done a firestrike run? I'd be interested to see your score, thanks

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They do have a 120hz laptop. The Razer Blade Pro with the GTX 1060 has 1080P 120hz panel, and an IPS one at that (which is uncommon). It also has a extra 2.5" drive bay and is about 1 LB lighter. Currently $2000 with their winter "sale" (just unreasonably priced as opposed to exorbitantly priced)

Also, they now have 120hz phone.

 

You will definitely range for FPS depending on location but all that post processing kills frames.

Most settings make the game fuzzy, try everything on very low and Antialiasing on High, then install reshade (reshade.me) and use the Adaptive Sharpen plugin at about .500.

 

Razer still missed though as most need a gtx1080 to push 120 frames for that panel.

 

Indeed very odd that they would release the RBP with a 120Hz screen with a GTX1060, obviously it was to lower the price, but a 1070 would make more sense in that laptop.

 

Possible to run an external monitor with gsync through the usb c port?


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No only mDP.

 

I was under the assumption that mDP ran through the USBC port? My question is whether or not that port is hardwired to the GPU, as is necessary for GSync to function.

 

This USB-C to DisplayPort supports 165hz GSYNC for the Razer Blade Pro or the Alienware 17r4.

https://en.j5create.com/products/jca141

 

anyone repaste and replace Thermal Pads?
what the size for the thermal pad?


thank you

 

hard to remove motherboard?

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People n this forum are in general very passionate about technology and also with pointing out flaws.

But dont forget, when Razer released all data regarding their products for starting an IPO the data regarding their laptops wasn't great, a lot of after service is needed and there are some proven design flaws in all of their systems. So the chance is fairly high that each user will run into trouble eventually.

People with issues can pretty much only come to this forum and or reddit since the Razerzone forum is so heavily moderated that people cant vent any negative sounds towards their brands.

 

Might be my fault. I'm probably one of the reasons the razer dev forums were taken down. I posted all the glitches from my blade pro. They then kicked me (or tried to) then after a few months closed the forum and basically discontinued support for the sbui. I remember seeing somewhere a promise of continuous updates but I honestly couldn't find it when I went back.

I was also told the forum was closed for renovation but it was never reopened. Instead the new razer forums were opened and no sbui dev section existed on them.

At this pt I wouldnt touch another Asus or Razer laptop. Both experiences were horrible. Asus is an ongoing issue still.

 

See? exactly what I'm talking about. I used to go into notebookreview forums on a daily basis, now its maybe once every other month if that, b/c people like you make it personal, clearly implying Razer customers are somehow deficient. Its the owner's lounge, not "criticize Razer owners and say they are dummies lounge."

I'm fine with pointing out bugs on the Pro. Mine had a problem and had to get warranty service from overheating, so yeah, its not a perfect product or perfect company. I enjoy laptops of all makes and sizes. Have an MSI GT83VR with 1070s in SLI, more powerful than my Pro, and an Alienware 13 R3, with that gorgeous OLED display and 1080ti amplifier (the Alienware needed service too). But the Pro remains my favorite daily driver, and I take it with me to work and enjoy gaming on my lap with it more than the other two.

Guess I'm just not tech savvy enough to hate the 17" 4k display, slim and light aluminum body, and capable innards. Shucks, wish I knew how them there guts inside made all the games look so pretty, must be magic inside that there machine. Or voodoo. How would I know? I'm just a Razer owner.

 

Yeah there is a lot of that around here....alienware users claiming their machine is the best overall, even though many had to go through numerous RMAs, heasinks, tech visits and such, to finally repaste with LM and repad to try to get it working as it should and at full potential, others trashing alienware for their crappy heatsink design and dodgy quality control, msi users with their superior out of the box cooling and having the best keyboard, others bashing Msi for the ugly design and limiting BIOS, and of course, the clevo users claiming top performance with the desktop CPU and upgradability, while others bash clevo for their thick and outadated looks, overheating without mods and crappy keyboard....on and on and on. Aorus.....that logo? made by Gigabyte? just part of the culture I guess.

 

It was nothing personal, and my reply was directed towards the general convo most people where having about the under performing aspects of the laptop. The concern is throttling on the CPU and GPU side, while Razer markets it as 100% functional performance for a price.

No one here is arguing about the sexy form-factor or 4K panel. No one.

I can't really apologize for the blanket statement, as their demographic is the average 'Gamer'.
They are almost a marketing company who likes to overplay their focus on performance, meanwhile under delivering on that aspect.

If your happy to pay 100% for the form-factor or panel, that's cool. No problem there.

The fact remains that they put a high performance CPU and GPU in something that should of had mid-grade components.

 

True, the thermals and power delivery is more fitting for a gtx1070 and a 7700HQ, but they would loose on the marketing potential.

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And Razer addressed that point with the release of the 1080p/7700HQ/GTX 1060 model, which also can cost less than half the price of the 4K/1080 version if you catch it on sale. If the cheaper Blade Pro supported G-Sync on an external monitor, I would seriously consider buying one because I don't really need all the power that my current daily driver delivers.

 

Had temperature problems (end of 2016 pascal AW15) but no RMA with my AW15 thankfully. AW even if they were more robust than the 2017 razer pro they had pretty serious defects ( bad tripod heatsinks, thermal paste, factory thermal pads too thick...). I undervolted and repasted with LM, and replaced the cpu pads with K5 pro "liquid" thermal pads and now up to -28°C, had to do A LOT of things to fix problems with a 2000E+ laptop that I bought with my student wage. So if AW owners are messing with you razer owners... they're either not really aware of the problems AW have/had and/or their being really dishonest.

 

Hi, let's see if someone can help me sort this out (in the correct thread no one is answering so...)...:
I have a Razer Blade Pro 7820hk, Win 10 Pro (1709), 512gb ssd. I'm triying to activate the gaming mode on Synapse, just to try temps with the fans sets on high, but when i select gaming mode or Balance mode on High, the fans just stay the same... My main question is, should the fans start running inmediatedly on high just by selecting High on synapse? Or will they start only under load?

NOTE: I have the process RazerPerformance DISABLED (i have CPU undervolted so i dont know if that process will mess with Throttlestop), so i dont know if that process have something to do with it... lights on keyboard and everything else works fine.

Thanks in advance!

 

I noticed yesterday that HIDevolution doesn't even offer this laptop anymore. Me thinks they don't want to support this laptop anymore due to the break amounts, although I could be wrong.

 

You are probably correct, I opened my RBP to repaste with liquid metal, which greatly improved temperatures. But the worst part is, I opened the computer to find the PCH completely uncooled. There is no heatsink, no thermal pad, no airflow over the PCH, and that is a BIG problem waiting to happen. Everything runs through the PCH, you cannot have such a critical component uncooled, whether it be passive or active. Solution? I stacked thermal pads until they made contact with the bottom plate, that way it at least has some thermal dissipation.

 

Almost all nowadays notebooks come with PCH chips uncoooled. No places to put the needed attachments screws for the heatspreader on Morherboards PCB. Everything is so tiny and flimsy now. Bigger footprint batteries due you can’t use normal size high battery means smaller motherboard pcb. And with even thinner chassis coming the batteries have to increase further in footprint size.

 

I really wanted this laptop to prove me wrong and be alright as I would have gotten one. I hope Razer is able to learn from the mistakes of this ambitious build and improve on them. I do think they have taken some learnings from this system and have applied them to their recent Razer 15, but i hope the next edition Razer Blade Pro hits all the right marks.

Progress is good though and I do see progress, we are just not quite there yet.

 

i think the next RBP is going to look like the current RB 15 with thin bezels, and 2x NVME with ? SD CARD slot coupled with the new i9's intel has launched, as far as GPU go, i think it;ll be a 1080 MaxQ with 4K+/- HD with 144Hz displays

 

I'm loving my RBP, the RB15 I had from HIDEvolution with cooling mods was F'd up and I set it back for a refund. What pisses me off is they're gonna charge me 10% restock fee, despite it being their fault.

I'll likely never buy from them again. Their customer service was polite and cordial, but not good enough to recognize their faults and provide a waiver of the 10%, you know real customer service. What ever, I don't care, just happy that I have the Pro and getting 90% back rather than a hot computer that they won't work with me on.

That said, the RBP is legit 10 to 15 degrees Celsius cooler than my HIDEvolution RB15 with new paste, and fujipoly thermal pads.

 

As in, the new RBP w/ 144hz screen?

Can you share any specifics? I've literally been trawling the web every day to find a review on it.
Mostly, how quiet it is while gaming using either balanced or gaming modes.

Dave2D touched on it, but only briefly.

 

Yes the new 2019 RBP with 144Hz screen. I bought the 2060 model, not sure if that will assist you or not but yeah.

What do you wanna know?

It's quieter than the Razer Blade 15. I returned the Razer Blade 15 2080 240Hz because of multiple reasons but I do recall the fan noise not being as bad. Take that with a grain of salt though because HIDEvolution added new thermal paste and thermal pads and the temps we're higher than they should have been so who knows.

But I do think they're quieter.

As for gaming profiles I don't use Synapse 3 since it causes some of my games to drop frames a lot. Like I'll be playing at 70+ FPS then it'll drop to 0 for a second or two then back up. This is easily repeatable in Dragon Quest XI Echoes of... But other games like Fallout 76 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider, it happens rarely.

Like if it wasn't for Dragon Quest I probably wouldn't have noticed it it happens so rarely. But Dragon Quest essentially opened my eyes to Synapses flaws.

So I almost returned the Razer Blade Pro because of it but talked with their support and they said an update should address some of my concerns and if I wanted to I can just uninstall it since it doesn't affect Balanced profile. Balanced profile is essentially Windows managing everything with auto fan enabled. Removing Synapse does that without Synapses overhead.

Custom profile is the only other profile and setting things to high does give me more performance but still gives me that frame drop. So I said screw it. I'll uninstall it and put it back on later on in life. The lighting it does by default is fine and the fan profiles is good enough and keeps the system cool.

On that, I never get higher than 80s when gaming it seems. I am undervolted by -125v and can go lower but am happy with it as is.

Let me know what you wanna know and I'll happily share.

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Ah, it sounds great. I'm dying to read a notebookreview on this machine.
But would definitely settle for someone with a dB meter at this stage