Razer Blade Pro 17 2080 Max Q Vbios

Is anyone able to get us a copy of the vbios for this machine? I’d be willing to tip for it. I need it and others need it for testing purposes for our other machines.

If you need to be walked through how to get the vbios it’s pretty simple just follow either one of these guides:

https://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/how_to_flash_rtx_bios/

https://www.trishtech.com/2017/07/how-to-backup-gpu-bios-or-uefi-from-inside-windows/

What I need is just a backup of the vbios! If you still have questions, please let me know... we think it’s some unicorn vbios 100-115W RTX 2080 Max Q that should be able to performance boost a lot of other models!

I could tip with crypto or send some money with PayPal for your time , thanks so much!


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Here's the vBios from my 2080MQ razer blade pro. I've seen it go up to 140w as seen here:


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I am testing as we speak will update on performance soon... I gave you some rep points as well, you angel! Haha!

Update #1
With CPU mod to enable no power throttling I got my first power related shutdown while running OC Scanner (Seems I am pulling far exceeding the 230W power supply) I am continuing the test to see what best results I can get!

Update #2 (Balanced Mode)
This is my 3.9GHZ all core mod and firestrike score we can see TDP looks indeed to have been raised and scores are closer to that of the razer blade pro!



Update #3 (Performance Mode)
This is my 4GHZ all core mod and firestrike score TDP stayed at a constant 100W throughout the run. This stable 100W TDP started happening after I had an update for razer central (it seems it recognized I had the updated vbios when it updated)!



Update #4 (Performance Mode benefit will not stick)
Haha figured something out! And you all are going to laugh how I figured it out... I stuck my laptop in the freezer and used chrome Remote Desktop to monitor it... I had the freezer door closed with the power cable coming out the door haha!

Anyway findings are: GPU needs to be under 67C to be able to pull 100W+ if it isn’t then we are stuck at 90W. (This was wrong when the machine is out of the freezer even when under 67C it still will not hold 100W sustained and drops down within seconds to 90W sustained, then I have to apply performance mode again)

This also includes why sometimes even the Razer Blade Pro cannot pull more than 90W. What this means is my initial hypothesis was correct this is a hybrid 90 to 100W.

When you go above some value temperature I think (see above) you have to reapply the high performance option to once again unlock 100W.

What we need to figure out is how to max out fans in performance mode as balanced mode seems to be the only way to Max fans out?

Also yes as far as I can tell synapse allows us to use 100W with the 100W vbios... so like I said above it seems it’s a hybrid vbios 90-100W.

User without razer synapse may never be able to hit 100W as far as I know you all can never enable high performance mode on the vbios without razer synapse... thus without a razer product so I’m not sure if you can ever get the 100W mode to be enabled?

Update #4 (Performance Mode now sticks)
To fix above you must update the Razer Blade Bios to 1.04...

BIOS Download

 

@seanwee @ryzeki I don’t have my GS75 yet, but thanks to @WhiteHelios, some testing can be done!

 

Try Firestrike with standard clocks on the cpu and the max you can get from the gpu and maybe you'll have more power available for the gpu. You are probably pulling more watts than the power brick can handle, as I'm not sure the adapter actually can handle 230w for long periods. I had to rma my power adapter since it was hitting temps in excess of 75C.

If it helps, here's my best Firestrike: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19626530
I used synapse high for both cpu and gpu, -. 15V undervolt on cpu. Gpu was clocked +150 and +600 memory iirc. This is after repaste with kryo.

 

Your vbios allows us to get to around 22,000+ graphics score but I have yet to find a way to get past this . Regardless pretty much a 3-6% improvement from what I was getting.

 

What laptop is it? It’s not only id i remember sharing my 90 watt Blade vbios to gs65 users, they didn’t succeed flashing it due different rom size. It can pull over 100 watt gpu tdp but not as high as Blade Pro which can spike to 130 watt.

 

What laptop is what? I’m using a razer blade 15 oled flashed with the Blade Pro Vbios that was shared and increased my score to what I showed. It seems it can hold higher clocks during load compared to the 90 watt I was using from an 18 Blade 15. (Since mine came with the 80 watt originally).


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I see, probably voltage regulator from Blade 15 can’t manage higher than that like on Pro one. From your FS score apparently you have to only manage the cpu power limit maybe with imon tweak. Not seeing yet on 9750H though but should be similar with 8750H one by moding the bios cpu Core vr.

 

I’ve used the imon tweak on the 9750H it works perfectly to control the 9750H power usage, but yes I would suppose I’m hitting hardware limits on the machine now. But regardless there is a nice boost to performance regardless.


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Have you hackintoshed your blade?

 

No I haven’t done that in years. The most recent hackintosh was with VMware. And with current NVIDIA relations with MacOS it’d be difficult.


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I tried flashing this on my RB15 8750h 2080mq but it's not going above 93w.

 

Compare 3D mark scores our machines can’t handle much more power but it can sustain higher power for longer.


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You were able to peak over 100w though but I was only able to peak at 93w. My original 90w bios peaked higher at 97w. But I am hitting Performance Limit - Power on both bios. Is that the reason?

 

Are all the RBPs coming w a 90W vbios? So when mine comes tomorrow, nothing more needed?

 

Incorrect some come with 80 or some come with 90 and the Blade Pro has a 90-100W bios (allows for a little higher clocks while gaming)!


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To be more accurate Blade 15 mid 2019 comes with weird 80 watt, but users flash the early 2019 90 watt without any issue. 2018 1070 and early 2019 (8750H) are 90 watt on every gpu model, Blade Pro 2070 and 2080maxq use 100 watt tdp maybe more since I saw peak 140 watt on 2080maxq.

run some graphics benchmarks while opening HWinfo64 you’ll see the gpu tdp on your model.

 

Hackintoshihope, did you end up keeping the RB17 Pro vbios or did you change back to the 90w?

 

Kept it haven't noticed any ill effects other then the one time when tweaking overclocks initially a power related shutdown.

 

@Hackintoshihope can you upload the vbios file here?

 

Yes, I think it should be higher.

This is my firestrike result with the stock 90w bios on my GS75.

 

What kind of clocks are you running on your max q?

Edit* Please look at the new run:



It seems that now in performance mode with razer central/synapse I get an impressive boost!

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Clock speeds depends on the game I'm running. Maybe I'm getting higher clocks because I'm running cooler?

I hit +-1700 mhz in apex but only 1300+- in metro exodus with RT enabled.

Great graphics score BTW

Going to flash the 100w vbios now. Will post results when I finish benchmarking.

 

I flashed @aIJay 's vbios and unfortunately it still caps at 90w.

@Hackintoshihope can you share the 100w vbios you are using?

 

You aren’t capped at that it’s razer central/razer synapse causing the problem... if you rapidly select between medium and high performance in razer synapse it will draw 100+ up to 120 what I’ve seen so far I can see this because I’m actively monitoring it with hwinfo and watching the draw... however something keeps making it drop down from 100W?!


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So Razer Synapse is the one enabling the 2080 to run at 100w?

Does it only reach 100w if synapse is running?

 

Haha figured it out! And you all are going to laugh how I figured it out... I stuck my laptop in the freezer and used chrome Remote Desktop to monitor it... I had the freezer door closed with the power cable coming out the door haha!

Anyway findings are: GPU needs to be under 67C to be able to pull 100W+ if it isn’t then we are stuck at 90W. (This was wrong when the machine is out of the freezer even when under 67C it still will not hold 100W sustained and drops down within seconds to 90W sustained, then I have to apply performance mode again)

This also includes why sometimes even the Razer Blade Pro cannot pull more than 90W. What this means is my initial hypothesis was correct this is a hybrid 90 to 100W.

When you go above some value temperature I think (see above) you have to reapply the high performance option to once again unlock 100W.

What we need to figure out is how to max out fans in performance mode as balanced mode seems to be the only way to Max fans out?

Also yes as far as I can tell synapse allows us to use 100W with the 100W vbios... so like I said above it seems it’s a hybrid vbios 90-100W.

User without razer synapse may never be able to hit 100W as far as I know you all can never enable high performance mode on the vbios without razer synapse... thus without a razer product so I’m not sure if you can ever get the 100W mode to be enabled?

Update #1
To fix above you must update the Razer Blade Bios to 1.04...

BIOS DOWNLOAD

 

This seems to be the case.

So unfortunately it's limited to Razer products. :/

Going to look into flashing a (150w) max-p bios then.

 

So I went ahead and flashed the 150w 2080 vbios

And it worked


Going to run benchmarks and see what scores I'll get.

 

Could you provide the vbios that you used? Also from what model machine, I know when you do that sometimes not all of the display port connection work. Let’s see some benchmarks


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Sure

The vbios I used was from the MSI GE75

HDMI works at least

HWInfo64 is showing 150w gpu power draw

 

What kind of performance numbers are you getting with 3D Mark?


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I’ve flashed it myself the performance is terrible and the 150W is false I checked it with a watt meter at the wall the power draw of the entire system on load is 150W where as with the 100W bios it is 190W total system power draw.


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Oddly it's lower. (19500 vs 21500)

It looks to me that gpu boost is not working since the clock speed stays at 1380.

That's interesting. How terrible was it in your case?

 

Same exact behavior it’s as if the vbios thinks it’s drawing 150 watt constantly and artificially power limiting when it’s not drawing anywhere near 150W


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Uninstalled drivers using DDU and reinstalled. Still no dice.

Tried to fix the voltage curve in msi afterburner but nothing happens.

Any ideas what else to do?

 

Can you try nvidia oc scanner?

I'm at uni and won't be able to any more testing till later today.

I also noticed that the gpu core voltage is lower now at 0.65v compared to 0.73+

 

Physical score is still lower for 9750H, it should be around 17K so you still can increase the score, didn’t you tweak the vr core (imon)?

 

I dont want to test it any longer, as I got really weird behavior when flashing back and was stuck at 990MHZ and had to wipe drivers and flash again... I dont think our cards like the 2080 150W vbios at all...

Yes I did but havent found any way to increase the score further I am locked at 4GHZ with the imon tweak it will not hold 4.1GHZ or higher it constantly as it frequently drops back to 4GHZ. Did you know a way around this?

 

9750H all cores max boost is 4Ghz, higher is maybe on one or two cores. No unfortunately I’m still on 8750H, but without imon tweak only undervolting cpu and gpu overclocking I scored a bit better on physical. I don’t repasting it yet only simple software tweak.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16153079

 

Yeah I can go all the way to 4.5GHZ on all core (they hold for 1 5seconds) but the clocks wont hold steady as they do on 4GHZ.

 

That's the best you can hope for.

I only got a 17k+ cpu score after overclocking the ram to 3466 mhz

 

That's normal. You WILL have to reinstall drivers after flashing different vbioses. I reinstall every time after I flash a vbios.

I tried oc scanner and it didn't help. Locking voltages in MSI afterburner didn't have any effect either.

I though that maybe the max-q chips are voltage limited but more searching showed that they can hit 0.8v too like on non Max-q cards.

Not sure whats wrong. Maybe I'll try to find another non-mxm 2080 vbios and see if those work.

 

Okay thanks for the heads up I don’t have to reinstall using any of the razer 80, 90, or 100 I guess because they are same manufacturer?

Regardless yeah I’m not sure it could be just simply differing board layouts?


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I don't think it's the board layout that's the issue. People didn't have issues flashing between cards with custom pcbs and we also didn't have problems cross flashing msi and razer vbioses either.

 

What I potentially am referring to is the power delivery system? But again I haven’t inspected differences. Regardless let me know if we get any new information. But the power budget is about 30W out of our 230W slim adapters as my power draw on full load is around 190-200 with my 100W vbios.


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Yes, no problems even with different brand/number of phases.

Concerning the power budget.While the GE75 does have a 280w power brick, it only draws 250w peak and 200w while gaming according to notebookcheck's review.

For comparison, the GS75 draws 156w while gaming,239 peak and the RB 17 draws 182w while gaming, 214 peak.

Granted our devices will be drawing more power since we have removed the cpu power limit.

And even if the laptop draws more than the adapter can supply I wouldn't be concerned at all. Quite a few laptops from last generation were known to do that and the only effect was that the battery will slowly drain while gaming.

 

I can’t see any link of the BIOS, does anybody can help me please?

 

Which one do you want?

The 100w vbios? The 150w vbios?