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    Razer Blade Pro 17 2080 Max Q Vbios

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Hackintoshihope, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. i_dima

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    100w but I have RB15 is suitable for my device?
     
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    I got it from this post

    And yes it will work with your RB15.
     
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    Regarding the vbios flash with the GPU clocks stuck at GPU Clocks, I had a similar issue a while ago when I originally flashed the razer's 90w vbios on my 2080MQ. No matter what I tried, it always got stuck at 990mhz, and when I returned to my original 80w vbios, the clocks worked fine.

    Tried everything from reflashing, reinstalling windows etc, but the last time, when it finally worked, it happened after I had my SSD boot drive die. During testing if my SSD was dead or not, I had left the 90w vbios installed and I reflashed my laptop BIOS, resent CMOS (all in an attempt to see if the SSD was still recognized or not) so anyways, got a replacement SSD, reinstalled windows and it worked. I think maybe my BIOS had something to do with it, so maybe you guys can try it.

    As a note: I have since reflashed my old 80w vbios, and now currently the MSI's 90w vbios, and it has worked fine, unlike when I originally attempted it.
     
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    Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple

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    You need to try the 100W vbios. As long as you have a razer laptop you will get a nice 5% increase :). It’s been linked several times here but I can attach it again if needed!


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    Thanks for the info, but I am happy with my current 90w performance.

    I, however, would be willing to try the 150w provided it "worked". And also I would want to have my machine LM'd before attempting it hahaha. I don't have as much time as before, but I will definitely be trying the full fat 150w vbios ;)
     
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    The 150W vbios does not work it constantly reports 150W and power throttles even when it is not pulling the 150W from the wall the highest performance you can get is with the 100W only :( and as of yet we cant get the extra state (100W) to work without the performance mode of razer synapse.
     
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    You may want to contact @hackness doing this I think he succeeded flashing Pascal full fat gpu for his maxq Laptop, last time I talked with him hardware ID and g sync laptop vbios may also make flashing unsuccessful (if you don’t have g sync capable gpu), I tried flashing Asus full 1070 gsync Laptop to my maxq, didn’t success. Yes I’m still happy as well with current 90 watt 1070 maxq, but I’ll try later flashing again with some other maybe full fat one and limit the gpu voltage, now I’m too lazy ;), will try it definitely before the warranty out :D
     
  8. hackness

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    Not sure about the 2080 though, the mobile version and the max-q version are both 10DE 1E90.

    When opened up using Pascal TDP tweaker,

    I've only seen 4E56 for the 2080 vbios (Full or max-q doesn't matter).

    However, for the checksum, Gigabyte usually shows 135XXXXXXX, while Razer / Lenovo / Dell would show 117XXXXXXX or 118XXXXXXX for the checksum.

    Not sure about MSI though.

    But I think you could try to find the vbios that has closer checksum to your original vbios and also the same hardware ID which is 10DE 1E90 and it might work.
     
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    Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple

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    You can flash the 150W vbios it just doesn’t give improvements we tested it in earlier pages on this thread.


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  10. Joikansai

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    On Pascal there’s success result, maybe you’ve to digging more, but anyway it’s also maybe dangerous since vrm may be kaboom in long usage.
    Here’s his full 1070 (Sorry it was not desktop but mobile) 115 watt (peaks at 120watt result) with higher gpu undervolte, but apparently he preferred lower frequency and voltage uV @100watt for better long run with this result. It’s already above 1070maxq average anyway.
     
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    With sufficient vrm cooling i wouldnt be scared of pushing it to 150w. Ive done research on the mosfets used on the GS75 and they can definitely handle the 150w load.

    They'll simply run at higher temperatures (4w vs 2w of heat generated per mosfet) and given the GS75 has an entire dedicated heatpipe over the mosfets i wouldnt worry about it. Mosfets are designed to operate safely up to 125°C anyways.
     
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    I specifically looked for vBioses with 10DE 1E90 in my search for a max p vbios.

    There's another version with the ID 10DE 1ED0 which can be found on the Zephyrus G Further analysis leads me to conclude that ones with this ID have their displays directly connected to the gpu.

    Another thing regarding the IDs is that I noticed that the GE75 has the ID 10DE 1E90 - 1272 while my GS75 has the ID 10DE 1E90 - 1277.
     
  13. Joikansai

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    Wow, so far I saw only Blade Pro 2080maxq can pushed to 140watt, how about its performance can clock frequency goes higher and maybe pass FS 24K graphics score? That’s great if it can.
     
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    A typical 150w 2080 laptop hits 25-26k firestrike so it should be possible.

    But now we need to figure out how to get the 150w vbios to work first.
     
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    Did you success flashing Blade Pro one? How was the result? I think that one is safer option, keep in mind there’s no big cooling head room on your gs75 unlike full fat mobile 2080 laptops.
     
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    Yes I flashed that successfully. However, the 100w is only accessible through Razer Synapse performance mode so it doesn't work for non-razer laptops. Performance stayed the same.

    Concerning headroom, running 75% fans (max is 150%) while gaming gives me about 77°C on the gpu and cpu. I'd say its a reasonable amount of headroom? (Yes I am using LM on both the Cpu and Gpu)
     
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    On bios flashing vrm temperature I think most important. Delivery extra 60 watt than default may kaboom it :D
    Synapse is controlled by bios, maybe you’ve to dive on it and check the values, I think MSI laptops are more users friendly on this department.
     
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    So I did a bit more researching today and found out that the Alienware Area 51m with upgraded mosfets are using the same mosfets as the ones in the GS75.

    https://www.onsemi.com/products/pow...regulators/integrated-driver-mosfet/ncp303150

    Difference is, the Area 51m uses six phases while there are only five phases on the GS75. However, the tdp of the RTX 2080 on the Area 51m is 200w. 50w more than the 150w vbios I plan to install.

    On top of that, the Area 51m only uses a passive heatsink to cool the mosfets while the GS75 has a dedicated heatpipe connected to the side heatsink.

    So it seems to me like the vrm on the GS75 should be able to handle the 150w vbios just fine.

    Edit: Any idea what the mosfets on the RB15/17 Pro are? And how many phases does it have?
     
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    Guys, cant seen to find the link for the 100w bios. Anyone has it? Right now i`m using 90w bios on my blade 15
     
  21. seanwee

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    Here you go
     

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    Thansk man! I`ll check and post my scores.
     
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    Ok, so hers`s my score after flashing bios and overclocking to +100 core + 550 memory
    My CPU is undervolted -120mV with clock locked to 3700Mhz maximum.
    I use kryonaut thermal paste.
    Dont know why HWMonitor doesnt show my GPU power readiing, but i guess its reaching 100w.
    My profile on synapse is High performance.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Funny that HWMonitor reads my CPU as 8850h, while it actually is 9750h (as shown on 3DMark)
    Gaming mode was enabled as well and i already have bios 1.04
     
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    Yup, 22k+ graphics is a 100w score.
     
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    You can getting higher physical score by not limiting Turbo Boost. I never do that and scores better with 8750H. Flashing vbios may increase your gpu performance but there’s also hardware and software limitation that you’ve to face, with 90 watt 1070maxq on real gaming I hit close to 100 watt, however that’s already good gpu score for 1080maxq Blade 15 on 90 watt I think I lead users somewhere here only max 21K graphics score with simple undervolting cpu and overclocking gpu.
     
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    Hi @Hackintoshihope can you play hdr game on your Oled Blade like Shadow of the Tomb Raider? There’s options there. I thought on laptop it’s only hdr stream like videos. 0787B8BA-D9AE-4717-BC7C-382104273FD5.jpeg
    Source
     
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    I could but I haven’t ever played tomb raider. But yes it’s an option as OLED allows full HDR support due to how the display technology is and how it doesn’t require a back light.


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    Good to know. Apparently M15R2 and old Alienware 13r3 couldn’t do that, only on video play like Netflix.
     
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    Hi I have the Razer Blade 15 2070Max-q after reading this post i'm interested in installing the 100Watt vbios. Will the the TU104.zip work on my gpu or is that for the 2080Max-q only?
    Thanks
     
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    2080Max-q only
     
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    Okay I figured appreciate it. Any chance know how I can obtain one for the 2070Max-q?
     
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    Edit: Incorrect information regarding 100W availability.

    As another said try and find it... with someone with a razer blade 17 with the 2070!

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    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
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    Ask around and hope someone has one?
     
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    It definitely exists. Both the 2070 and 2080 versions of the Blade Pro 17 have 100w vbioses.
     
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    Ah perfect I was thinking that the 2080Max Q is the only one that got special treatment with the 100W thanks for the correct information.


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    It performs on par with 80w 2080 Max-qs in fact. Then again, not that surprising considering its just 15w less than Max-p 2070s which are 115w.

    I'll be trying to flash a 150w vbios again later (I got a new one) . But this time I will also be using modified nvidia drivers. Fingers crossed.
     
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    I’m excited for this... let me know what you figure out :D.


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    Once again, no dice. The hardware id modification isnt sticking.
    Gonna keep looking
     
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    @seanwee and @hackintoshihope

    Which 150W vBIOS did you try? On Techpowerup I was able to find 2 150W variants and 2 90W/100W variants. There were also some 190W mobile variants, but those are almost certainly way too extreme for these laptops.

    Links:
    150W - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/212106/212106

    150W - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/208784/208784
    90W/100W - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213643/213643
    90W/100W - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/212908/212908 (Same as TU104 provided in this forum)

    I'm getting my RB15 2080 tomorrow, so will be messing around to see what I can get working, just wanted to see which of these you've already tried.
     
  44. seanwee

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    The 150w vbioses on techpowerup are for clevo mxm cards and will not work. I only tried the vbioses I obtained from users of this forum.
     
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    With my new RB15, and everything updated and optimized, I'm pretty happy with the results. Getting Firestrike scores in the 19,100 range ( Example). And I am amazed by the temps on this machine. Everything I've done gets low 80s at the highest.
     
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    Those are some amazing numbers what kind of overclock is that and what driver version?


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    GPU - +160 Core, +600 Memory
    CPU - TDP Mods with additional -85mV

    Latest nVidia driver 436.15. I'm about to install the latest "lite" drivers and see how it impacts things
     
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    Is your cpu stock clocks or did you modify it’s clock behavior at all like 4.0ghz on all core? Anyway those are really nice results :)!


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  49. seanwee

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    Tdp modding sounds like he is allowing all cores to boost to 4ghz, same as what I'm doing.
     
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    Wonder why my cpu score is so low then :\. Compared to the 17,500z that’s all I did haha... regardless impressive performance.


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