Razer CEO covering up cheap/poor design of Razer notebooks

If you are referring to me, well I referred to myself as a fanboy multiple times in this thread and no one else. I was not attacking, just challenging and there is a difference especially when people want to label you a cultist. I would say that the knowledgeable ones in here are in the distinct minority and that the majority as in 99% of consumers of technology don't give a rip about all the problems that you are pointing out. I would think that companies such as Dell, HP, Apple and MSI produce computers for those 99% and not the 1% shrieking about not being able to overclock etc. Nobody answered my question about why my 12+ Alienware and Razer machines never had a problem (so far) and yet some in here have horror stories, why does that happen? I think the answer to that is the way you use (perhaps abuse) your systems by putting them through such heavy loads. I do realize that sometimes people just get a lemon like as with a vehicle purchase. Perhaps people that build their own computers will never be truly satisfied with todays gaming laptops or even gaming desktops because they cannot live up to your expectations. Just my 2 cents worth

 

Maybe you forgot what was written on my original repaste thread about stating that numbers don't tell the whole story etc....

Anyway, never mind then...I didn't' realize that you wouldn't be able to understand the point being made here.

BTW, I've extensively tested both TGC and CLU and TGC does perform slightly better. Enough to to TGC, although I would take CLU any day as well.

 

Thanks

 

What you've stated about the 99 percentile directly supports the reason why the reported percentages are so small (overall with the known issues). Do you realize that you've just proven my (and others) point?

This is a forum so of course you'll get the concentration of people bringing up issues to one place, all the while there are still people who have no idea what NBR even is.

Your 12+ run with AW and Razer has been good for you, because they were clearly used as intended and not pushed. The point that you have to understand is that when something is labeled a, "powerful gaming laptop," with components that should be able to at least meet a certain base standards; when that machine can not produce, it is labeled as false advertisement. i.e...flop.

If you use the systems like the 99%, then there's nothing to worry about, but on the flip side of that coin it makes it even worse and does not negate the fact that over paying for inferior and faulty hardware is a wise decision.

That's my 2 cents....

 

Haha jk ....all in good fun...

But lets not forget that even you don't like ICD or would recommend it as there are better pastes out there.

 

All good Improved temps by over ~12C vs. ICD is not the ordinary. If this had been the norm... You'd all gone over to Grizzly Kryonaut. Absolutely everyone. Also those who have perfect heatsink fit!! And I do not think all take completely wrong, to put it that way

 

No I don't think I proved your point but we can agree to disagree. Your last point is subjective. How can you say what is a wise decision for how someone spends their disposable income? Perhaps it would not be a wise decision for you but for Howard Schulz it would be pocket change. Get it? My main point is that you are making an assumption based on what you know and have not taken into account what you don't know. I appreciate what you do know about computers, but that doesn't mean that you know best when it comes to what consumers want from their computer. You seem to think you are dealing in absolutes, when in fact you are not. Embrace the unknown

 

You can still make unwise purchasing decisions, even if you have the disposable income for it. An obvious example would be lottery tickets.

 

Mmm maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but to clarify, what I had meant was Grizzly Kyronaut dropped ~12C in temps vs ICD, which ran ~12C HOTTER.

For anyone who has good contact, ICD is the very last choice anyway, even if it was a good paste.

 

You said yooo never have had problems with all your machines... Then you have surely have the gold standard. And all others are wrong!! Oh 'well. And then you say that those who have had problems... Is due to hard use. Aka overclocking. This is outright nonsense!! I really hope that you don't believe on this yourself. I'm starting to get worried when I see something like that.

 

Actually you did prove many points that are being made here, because you fall in the 99%, which you have even admitted.

As for your rant on judging buying decisions...you're getting way off base here. You're not making any sense and what you've stated is false.

Embrace the unknown? Perhaps you should be asking yourself that LOL....we're not the ones who has as common sense issue when it comes to technology so please speak to yourself and not nonsense.

 

SMH....it's a lost cause and on the verge of trolling now. Fan boys.... - See what 6700HQ's do to people? 6700HQ <-- Only found in powerful gaming desktop replacements.

 

Technically it is.

The limitation here are the heatsinks and their ability to transfer the heat elsewhere. Conduct. wasn't really made for laptops with their silly cooling solutions hehe

 

on desktop the conductonaut made 0 difference to GPU temps

but pascal don't really care as long as the gpu contact is good anyways

 

Valid points.

I really just want better contact on laptops... the current generation is absurdly strong, but all these heatsink, heatpipe, bad fans, wrong mobo architechture and BGA makes me shiver..

 

just for everyone's info (I feel like my "razercucks" comment brought out 10 pages of argument here) - A razercuck is not someone who buys razer products, a razercuck is someone who shouts down other people/defends razer when someone makes a valid complaint about something that bothers them about their razer product - ie. anyone who takes their time out in a thread requesting a fix to a specific issue and says "I have the same Razer device and I don't believe I have this problem, therefore you don't have a problem and need to accept that Razer are amazing). There's a squad of downvoters (razercucks) on reddit who downvote anything related to fan noise for example.

There has been separate Razer-buyer bashing in this thread - but it's a bit hypocritical for someone like me to type how much they hate razer buyers when they are sitting in front of a blackwidow, using a taipan on a manticore with a blade sitting on the shelf for gaming on the go (for refreence, I have only been having a big issue with the blade and a mild but acceptable problems with the Taipan)

 

"The Cuck of Razer"

 

I guess @minliangtan can't take any criticism. LOL.

I have had some of Razer's mice over the years, mostly a string of Razer Orochi BT mice and most recently a corded Razer Deathadder. The reliability of the Orochis were pretty bad. I didn't even bother RMAing them; I'd just buy another one rather than deal with them. Nice mice; they just don't last past a year.

For Christmas, I did get a keyboard, light-up chroma gaming mouse pad, etc so that I can do the "whole Synapse light-up effect," which is sort of cool.

 

I actually like their mice - they keyboards feel worse than my membrane (at least the ones I tested at Pulsar) but the mice have performed and lasted decently in my experience. The only real problem they need to sort out is the designs of their laptops - if they can get the life expectancy of a blade to be 3 years, then sign me up. Their 2017 models seem to not throttle due to heat, which is something. But if the machine is expected to fail after only 1 year, yeah, that's a tougher sell.

 

Maybe it is better to go back to the topic that their laptops suck...

And CS is nonexistent

 

I know right? Those $800 rigs with a 6700HQ and integrated graphics only = badass.

 

Haha yea... Wow you're right. Seeing it in a whole new light...the same CPU in a $800 laptop also found in a $4000 laptop?

Ouch. Help me cry a river... That seriously hurts... Time to watch something uplifting now...

As I turn on Netflix...

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