EVOC P870TM1 from HIDevolution

Hi guys,

I’ve been reading up on these forums since I’ve ordered an EVOC P870TM1 from HIDevolution. I had to order a laptop before the end of the year for my consulting company and ended up calling them at 4 minutes before closing time on Friday the 29th (another vendor from which I was trying to order a laptop from fell through and showed horrible customer support when trying to order from them).

In the end I’m really happy that it didn’t work out since I managed to talk with @Ted@HIDevolution who recommended the EVOC. I wanted a desktop replacement for deep learning / blockchain testing and of course gaming. He took an hour after closing time to help me select all my components and in the end I went with the following:

EVOC High Performance Systems P870TM1 Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop - 17.3"

3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz 5ms with G-Sync Technology

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X200W + Vapor Chamber Dual GPU Heat Sink - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled

Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version once available

Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested, Factory Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i7-8700K 6 Core-12 Thread Core Processor, 4.7 GHz (HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.9GHz, rated to 5.1GHz)

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut + Gelid GC Extreme on CPU, Gelid GC Extreme on GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces

32GB (2 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (Out of Stock so Corsair Ram will be used)

RAID 0 - 750GB (3 x 250GB) Samsung 960 EVO M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD

1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

Killer™ Wireless-AC N1535 ac/a/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.1

Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English

The machine should be done and sent early next week and take a week to get here (eastern Canada). I look forward to seeing this beast in person.

Thanks for all the advice everyone has been giving on this forum and will look at enabling @Phoenix modifications once I get the laptop. I’ll also be looking at modding a cooling pad for additional thermal help.

I’ll provide updates when I get the laptop

Cheers and happy new year to all.

Kasirak

 

Wow!! Congratulations on this awesome beast man! I see you specced out to the max, just like how I would. Silicon Lottery CPUs FTW! I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Had a 6700K Silicon Lottery last year that used to stay clocked @ 4.6 GHz on all cores up from the stock 4 GHz with very low temps!

Tag me again once you get it so I can hook you up with these tweaks. after I'm done with the tweaks, you will never be able to use a Windows 10 system without them:

1- Uninstallation of all the Windows Store Garbage Apps like 3D Paint, Print 3D, Alarms & Clock, Feedback Hub, Maps, Groove Music, News, Weather, etc.
2- Removing all Windows 10 Privacy Invasion stuff like Telemetry, sending your keystrokes to Microsoft, automatically installing suggested apps in the background, allowing Microsoft to conduct experiments on your laptop, disabling automatic driver updates through Windows updates, disabling Windows 10 ads, disabling Cortana, Cloud Search etc.
3- Removal of nVIDIA and Intel Telemetry
4- Adjusting a lot of options in PC Settings like disabling Windows Tablet Mode (you have a laptop not a tablet), disabling suggestions appearing in the start menu, disabling automatically connecting to Paid WiFi Hotspots, disabling Game DVR which reduced performance in games, and a lot more.
5- Replacing Cortana with a much better search tool that finds results instantly called Everything which finds any file you want as soon as you start typing even a few letters of its name and it doesn't even rely on the Windows Indexing Service to do this!
6- Restoring the classic Windows Photo Viewer
7- Restoring the Classic Windows 7 Start Menu
8- Removal of the new and useless 3D Objects Folder that appears when you open "Computer"
9- Completely disabling Windows Defender from its roots (including all scheduled tasks and startup files) for those who want to install their own AV. ESET NOD32 Antivirus is highly recommended if you want the utmost security with the least system performance impact.

 

Thanks Pheonix, I look forward to the tweaks

Am update on my order, it was supposed to be ready by Monday evening, but an issue was discovered with the graphic card. As such, they’ve had to reorder a new laptop to replace it (i’m Guessing it’s more the Motherboard connector considering they are replacing the whole thing).

So while it sucks that there will be a delay to get here (I had paid for 5 days rush build), I’m glad that they found the issue before sending the laptop my way and forcing a back and forth to fix any problems I would have encountered. So Pro on the quality control and ensuring top notch products.

I’ll post an update when it ships or when I get further news.

Kasirak

 

That's exactly why I buy all my laptops from them. They're not into Mickey Mouse business, they have strict quality control You see, I live in Dubai, so imagine if I had to wait for almost a month to get a laptop from X reseller only to discover it has issues out of the box, that would tick me off seriously and I'd have to go through the hassle or returning it and waiting forever to get a replacement unit. I know we all want our new toys fast, but you'd rather wait a bit more and get a quality product that works rathern you having to discover the issues.

good luck man, hope the new laptop reaches you sooner than later.

 

Yeah, I totally agree, hence why I’m happy they found the issue before shipping it. I was hoping to run a few tests before starting work up again while I still had a bit of time, but would rather know that everything is I tip top shape.

How do you like Dubai? Are you from there originally? I’ve had a few people I know who worked there namely for Hyperloop.

 

Yes indeed.

No offense but I don't like any side conversations other than the tweaking. Thanks

 

No worries, totally understand. I just find Dubai and Neom interesting.

I’ll update the thread when I hear back from Hidevolution.

 

Thank you for understanding.

When you get your laptop, during the initial setup screen/wizard, you will be asked to connect to your wireless network, press SKIP on the bottom left otherwise you would be forced to login with a Microsoft Account which is a big no no. Then you'd wanna download and install TeamViewer and be ready for the Phoenix Magic

 

Hey guys,

So after a few minor setbacks and a last minute tweek on my part (added another ssd so I can have a dedicated Ubuntu drive), my laptop has officially been shipped.

Hidevolution upgraded my shipping option so that I receive the laptop around the same time as my rush build. So I’m quite happy with how things turned out and should be getting it tomorrow.

Thanks again @Ted@HIDevolution for keeping me updated on what was happening and for the shipping upgraded.

I’ll be posting impressions after I get the laptop and will look at running a few benchmarks as well.

@Phoenix I’ll pm you when I get the machine for some of that magic

 

Got my laptop yesterday after some delays at Customs. I had to go and pick it up at their depot since it had missed the last delivery truck and next one was only on Monday. No way I was waiting all weekend for it

I didn’t do much spelunking yet, But I did run CrystalDisk for those that were wondering what the performance for 3x Samsung 960 EVO m.2 drives in Raid 0 is like. (Prior to @Phoenix magic)

If anyone has any benchmark request, don’t hesitate to fire it my way.

Kasirak

 

So after a nice session of @Phoenix Magic (thanks again for all the help, tips & advice), the systems runs faster and with a lot less clutter

One of the speed test we ran should greatly interest @Papusan



I'm currently looking into an issue I'm having with Crystal Disk Mark on Writes, but the read numbers did look promising.I'll post a screenshot as soon as I figure out the issue

 

If it's that same freeze we encountered, either disable the Write Back Cache or just stick to AS SSD

 

Indeed same crash and it’s the Write Back Cache that is causing it. I played with setting on and off and it caused a hang at preparing for Write test every time. Faster Reads when enabled though as you saw (4KIB Q1T1 goes up above 40MB/s)...

Here's the latest test (with Volatile Volume Cache mode set to off):

 

What are the temperature of gpu and the processor when you're gaming for a considerable amount of time?
And please do tell the Ambient temperature too.

 

but the thing is, AS SSD is not causing any bugs so I'm not sure that the Write Cache Bug is what's causing it. Like I've used Write Back Cache for almost 3 years with 0 issues.

 

@Gursimran82956 I've finally had a some time to game. After 3 hours (2 hours of Total Warhammer 2 followed by an hour of Overwatch, both on ultra settings), these are the numbers I have. Ambient temp is 22 degrees Celsius. Also note that the fans never went full blast during my session, max was about 60%. I have no external fans (yet, planning on modding a Cooler Master Cooling pad at one point), but I've raised the laptop slightly to let more airflow in the bottom intakes.



I'll be doing more intensive CPU/GPU and will update with new numbers then.

I also suggest you check out this youtube video with a review of the machine where you'll get a few info on thermals:

I had HIDevolution do all the delid, pasting + vapor chambers and the CPUs are overclocked to 4.9Ghz.

 

Those temps are insane for a 4.9GHz taptop man! Talk about a quality build! congrats!

 

@Papusan have you the ability to beat that wPrime score?

 

@Phoenix what would be expected temps for same build but dual sli 1080
And ambient temperature≈30°
And fans at Max with notepal u3?

 

You're asking the wrong person bro. I didn't own a Clevo laptop since more than a year so I can't tell you that. But from my past experience, adding another 1080GTX didn't bring the temps up much higher with that Vapor Chamber heatsink.

Also note that a Dual GTX 1080 is only great for benchmarks, not a lot of games these days have proper SLI support or even if they do, they don't scale that well.

But I always go for SLI if I had the choice, because bragging rights...

 

Can't, have only 4 cores ( would need 6.7GHz) But fall 2018

Damn nice machine... @Kasirak What I call a laptop.

 

Hey man, check this post that I made in the MSI Forums: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-drivers.800622/page-72#post-10671566

I was experiencing random freezes when Write Back Cache mode was enabled with every single IRST Driver that was released after v15.2.0.1020 (which brought Intel Optane Support)

I recommend you downgrade to that and then enable Write Back Cache followed by a reboot and see how you won't get any more freezes.

Intel Rapid Storage Technology v15.2.0.1020
RAID Driver v15.2.0.1020

Instructions, uninstall your current Intel Rapid Storage Technology then reboot, then immediately install the Intel Rapid Storage Technology v15.2.0.1020 and reboot.

The RAID Driver is only required to be placed on the Windows 10 USB Flash Disk in case you were installing Windows in RAID but you already have Windows installed so no need for that now.

After you're done installing, open device Manager > Storage Controllers, then verify that the version of the Intel Chipset SATA RAID Driver is indeed 15.2.0.1020 after you've installed the older IRST

 

Thanks @Phoenix, I'll check it out as soon as I have a second. I've just started a new contract and I haven't had much time for anything other than work and the family. I'll post an update when I try it out.