[Help!] Clevo P770ZM cpu high temperature problem

Hello people. I am currently using Clevo P770zm, and recently, I've upgraded my cpu to i7-4790k (previously it was xeon E3 - 1231v3), and the high temperature is driving me crazy.

On regular usage, I get 48 ~ 60 c (about 140 F), however, when I play demanding games, such as Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and etc, i get 92 ~ 97c (about 199 ~ 206 F).

I am currently using mx -4 for my thermal compound, which is not some cheap thermal compound that you get from $1 store. Do you guys have any solution to lower the temperature, at the same time, don't sacrifice the performance?

 

MX-4 is $1 crap thermal paste IMO... It's absolute junk, pumps out and hardly any good.. Get some good IC Diamond and Gelid GC Extreme and you should be fine.. Also try undervolting core voltage + cache voltage, that helps a bit with temps.. My 4790K is pretty good, UV and OCed lol..

 

Yeah, I would agree that it is worth trying a re-paste, and maybe a different thermal compound as well.

 

Wow.... I never thought mx-4 is such a bad thermal compound. Ok, I just ordered GC Extreme. Thanks!

 

I had fair results with MX-4 in the past personally, he is exaggerating a bit, but there are better ones out there.

 

Well at least why don't I try a new thermal compound, since I never really had good experience with mx -4 anyway

 

While a re-paste would be worthwhile, the 4790K will still run warm regardless being that it's a high TDP desktop CPU working in a more confined space than it otherwise would be. The CPU in my P770ZM not only has Gelid thermal compound but was also de-lidded and pasted with Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. The processor and heatsink were also lapped to ensure the best possible contact. Even with all these precautions, at stock speeds and voltages, it will get up to 84-86 degrees when running an AIDA64 stress test. Granted, AIDA is an extreme example of an extreme test, but at the same time, don't expect your re-paste to have a miraculous effect.

 

Yes I do understand what you are trying to say. Since it is high end desktop processor, the tmeperature won't be as good as the mobile ones. However, 200F for just gaming, I don't think this is normal temperature, since many people claims that they have 70 ~ 80 c when they play games.

 

This is where I disagree with you. The best vs worst thermal paste is literally only a 2c difference. I have pasted my CPUs, GPUs, etc on both my laptops, desktops, servers all with MX-4 and it has not pumped out or warn out or anything. It's perfectly usable and it's my favourite paste.

The biggest difference will be undervolting, and potentially even underclocking as well.

 

check your heatsink for good contact with the cpu. what i did: i took off the 4 screw from the cpu part of the heatsink, then i put thermal paste in the center of the cpu and push the heatsink to the cpu gently while moving it from left to right slightly. if you have a good contact than your thermal paste resudue after you remove the sink should look similar like what you have on the GPU. if not - then something is blocking it, it might be slight bent of the tubes, thermal pad on the fets, etc, figure it out and you should not reach 90C after.

 

MX-4 pumps out easily and that's it's biggest problems... A paste is good for me for it's longevity and IC Diamond and GC Extreme have lasted much longer then MX-4 for me..

 

yeah, it takes only a few weeks for mx-4 to wear out if temp reach over 80-85C.

 

Some of that has to do with notebooks and heatsink pressure, not all heatsinks will have that issue.

 

Even if the pressure is correct etc, it just dries out.. That happens in a much shorter time frame compared to IC diamond or Gelid GC Extreme...

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I certainly haven't had that happening on anything I have used MX-4 on. MX-4 has been perfectly fine for me for years. I don't understand the hate on it. All my temps are under 60c on everything that I use it for - hell, I even cool a 5960x with it on air cooling with no issues.

 

That's exactly the sort of thing that will be impacted.

 

I never really had any good experience with Mx-4. I've had multiple laptops, ASUS G73JH, MSI GT70, Razer Blade, Aorus x3 plus, and now Clevo P770ZM, and non of the laptop really had "lower temperature" by mx-4. I've recently changed to GC Extreme, and it seems this thermal compound is better for me to use.

 

Well, I imagine if it's good enough to cool my $1500 8 core 5960x, it's probably good enough to cool anything. I've compared it to MX-2, MX-3, AS5, and NT-H1 and it performs better than all of them.

 

Probably due to different cooling solution. My desktop cpu is in the laptop, and than makes it little bit hotter than the others.

 

It also degrades much more faster under higher temps so that probably doesn't help... Have you tried GC Extreme with your 5960X? Do that and let us know

 

Honestly, I don't really need to. My 5960x stays under 60c during load, and idles at literally 30-35c. It's definitely not hot enough to bother the MX-4 paste. I just don't get all the MX-4 hate on this site. I've been using it for years now without any issues. The best vs worst thermal pastes are MAYBE 3-4c different. Thermal paste is not honestly THAT big of a deal, voltage and heatsink mounting pressure have a lot bigger impact on temperature.

 

people don't hate it, they dislike it because it doesn't work for them, as I have heard from most people and it is the same for me, my temps got 5-7 degrees cooler underload using IC Diamond....but the way you are putting it makes you seem people hate it for no reason...no they just dislike it as I said because it doesn't work well for them....

 

Desktop heatsinks and notebook heatsinks do have slightly different concerns however with regards to vibration and mounting pressures.