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    [How To] Clevo USB EFI Install Windows 8

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Zymphad, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. beanwolf

    beanwolf Notebook Consultant

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    Can somebody help me out? I have a p150em with the most recent clevo bios and ec but cant seem to get the secure boot options to appear...
     
  2. beanwolf

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    Nevermind, turns out I didnt really have the most updated bios and ec,....
     
  3. Mirabis

    Mirabis Notebook Guru

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    Tried over 6 times with different bios/ec/stick. Once the USB is properly formatted it skips the install and boots windows.
    If I wipe windows first, it doesn't take the stick.
    Couldn't get it to work ;(
     
  4. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    hm that sucks...

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  5. Rauch

    Rauch Notebook Consultant

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    Hm... Odd. I get off work in... 5 hours. When I get home I'll see what I can find. I would think that you'd be EFI capable as it is a newer notebook. But, I'll see what I can find out and I'll let you know.
     
  6. Tyranids

    Tyranids Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't get the SecureBoot option to be enabled. It's always greyed out and I can't select it. I've got BIOS 1.02.14LS1 and EC 1.02.11SA. I was told these are the newest.
     
  7. ldkv

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    Have you selected Windows 8 and enabled the UEFI option in the Boot menu (OS Select option)? The Secure Boot only avaiable with UEFI enabled.
     
  8. Tyranids

    Tyranids Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes. I will take some pictures and add them to this post.

    Here's the front page of my BIOS, as you can see it's the EC/BIOS I described earlier:
    [​IMG]

    I load all defaults, just to be safe:
    [​IMG]

    After restarting, I enable Windows 8 and UEFI Boot:
    [​IMG]

    I go back to the security tab, this is what I see:
    [​IMG]

    After restarting and going back into BIOS, it's still the same. How do I get into "user" mode?

    EDIT again: Ok so it lets me select UEFI USB from the Boot Override menu, but then it crashes every time and restarts so quickly that I can't read the error code. I know my Windows 8 image is good,. because I used the same exact USB stick to install a fully functional copy on the same hard drive just in a different computer.

    After following the instructions here: http://communities.intel.com/commun.../26/microsoft-windows-8--enabling-secure-boot I was able to get into the installer. After I typed in my CD key, I got this error message:
    Code:
    The instruction at 0xbec81b66 referenced memory at 0xf63d9c1c. The memory could not be written.
    
    Click on OK to terminate the program
    Oh wow, I click on ok and get another one:
    Code:
    The exception unknown software exception (0x40000015) occurred in the application at location 0xc21034ce
    
    Click on OK to terminate the program
    Immediatly after that the installer restarted, and I got:
    Code:
    Windows installation encountered an unexpected error. Verify that the installation sources are accessible and restart the installation.
    
    Error code: 0xC0000005
     
  9. kkojot

    kkojot Notebook Enthusiast

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    Which BIOS version is this? And is it for sager np9150 from your sig?
     
  10. Invincible10001

    Invincible10001 Notebook Consultant

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    I've run into a problem. I was initially running Windows 7 PRO from my Intel 520 SSD, then I installed the Crucial m4 mSATA in my laptop, updated the firmware on it. Then I removed my SSD & HDD from my laptop. Booted from a GPT USB Drive..installed Windows 8 on the m4 from the steps you mentioned. Everything's fine, it boots up in like 8-9 seconds.

    Then, I installed the WD Blue. Booted up, but Windows doesn't pick it up. It doesn't show in Disk Management.

    Is there some option that I need to enable to get the system to recognize my other drives?

    EDIT: I just restarted. Went into the BIOS & there they were. All the WD drives. Exited & restarted & all of them showed up in Disk Management. Dunno why they never showed up the first time.
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    maybe it was just some initialization fluke :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  12. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    I got EFI working just fine with my Mythlogic P-170em and Samsung 830. Boot times are very fast and Windows 8 has been great so far. However, Secure Boot has not been an option in the latest BIOS/EC so I can't comment on that.
     
  13. Invincible10001

    Invincible10001 Notebook Consultant

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    Haha! Yeah.. Good thing they started working rightaway. Was starting to get worried!


    I have the P-170EM too. (Sager NP9170 From XoticPC.)
    Enabled UEFI + Secure Boot. I'm running Windows 8 Professional off the Crucial m4 mSATA.
    Everything worked just as described in the first post.

    Maybe you need to get the new BIOS. Maybe contact Mythlogic?

    I contacted Sager directly for the updated BIOS for Windows 8 as they had just sent me the updated KBC firmware for my new keyboard a week or so ago.
     
  14. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    I received the most recent BIOS/EC files from Mythlogic within the last week so I'm under the impression that they are the latest offered for them. It doesn't appear that Safeboot is available at this moment, but EFI is. How important is Safeboot?
     
  15. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Hey, SecureBoot is, just go into Boot -> OS Select / UEFI PXE Support and the first option set it to Windows 8, you can change on the fly if you already have win 8 installed via UEFI boot already.
     
  16. Invincible10001

    Invincible10001 Notebook Consultant

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    Here's an extract on an article on Windows 8 Security Features which includes a write up on Secure Boot:

    " When Secure Boot is enabled, it can make Windows 8 very resistant to low-level malware such as rootkits. With Secure Boot the operating system will validate the digital signature of all boot components up to the antimalware driver to detect any tampering. If a component is not signed correctly (it’s been tampered with), the Windows Recovery Environment will start and attempt to fix the operating system. A rootkit usually tampers key operating system files and becomes active during the boot process, before many anti-malware defenses are enabled. Secure Boot will detect any type of tampering and prevent the rootkit from loading. Organizations that deploy Windows 8 will probably want this feature enabled and prevent users from disabling the feature."

    You can check out the article here: Secure Boot Features
     
  17. misterhobbs

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    Invincible10001, thank you for that link.



    I apologize for giving out wrong information. However, I still can't seem to access the SecureBoot option and am not sure what I'm doing wrong. Here is what I'm seeing in the BIOS Boot menu:

    Show UEFI Boot [Enabled]
    UEFI Boot [Enabled]
    Boot Option #1 [Windows Boot Manager]

    OS Select/UEFI Boot Options:
    OS Select [Windows 8]
    UEFI Boot [Enabled]
    Network Stack [Disabled]
    IPV4 PXE Support [Enabled]
    IPV6 PXE Support [Enabled]
     
  18. sidewinDr

    sidewinDr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, since there is a lot going on in this thread. Do I have to flash a new BIOS to enable UEFI boot? I have a P150EM from Malibal running American Megatrends Inc 4.6.5 BIOS dated 05/25/2012 (based on info from Speccy). Seems like this is the feature that would make me jump ship to Windows 8.
     
  19. kong

    kong Notebook Consultant

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    Yes you need the latest BIOS/EC in order to use UEFI.
     
  20. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    That is secureboot enabled, that config.. Same way we do our production systems right now =)
     
  21. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok, thanks. I was just confused because I didn't see any SecureBoot options anywhere.
     
  22. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Most companies aren't going to put "secureboot" into their BIOS config, because then you have to get permission from MS, so on and so forth.. The procedure is a standard, but the name brings in marketing and copyright :p
     
  23. rjiemamam

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    My NP9150 is on order with XoticPC, I am considering installing Windows 8 via UEFI on a mSATA SSD. probably the Crucial M4 256GB mSATA SSD.

    Should I update the firmware on the mSATA SSD before doing this? Is it even necessary?

    Not sure what version of the bios will come with the NP9150 through XoticPC, how do I make sure it is the right one? and where do I get the latest bios?

    thanks!
     
  24. misterhobbs

    misterhobbs Notebook Evangelist

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    Sager might have the files on their website. Also check out the Clevo BIOS thread.
     
  25. hihihehe

    hihihehe Notebook Guru

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    Just flashed EC and BIOS into my P150EM.

    Tried to install win 8 with uefi enabled but I got an error "windows only can be installed in gpi mode" in selecting partition screen. I deleted all partitions but still getting same error.

    I can install fine with uefi disabled in bios but I read that the performance I better with uefi enabled.

    Also, does that mean if I install Win 8 in UEFI mode, it's harder to detect any USB drives that are not signed?
    I am using DVD that supplied from MSDN and there is EFI folder in the disc so I assume it's an EFI ready disc. or I need to use the USB stick for installation?

    also, the Secure Boot in my BIOS is disabled and I can't change it.is that normal?
    Any idea?
     
  26. Phillbspeed

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    Hello all,
    Is it possible that certain HM models are not compatible with EFI mode? Im using a Clevo P170HM and was told that I have the latest bios & ec from Xotic. My current bios & ec is EC/KBC V 1.00.09 & BIOS V 1.01.10LS1. I've tried booting with USB into EFI but the USB drive just bypass the boot process. Also, the EFI option isn't available nor is the secureboot option within the bios menu. Here are some screen captures.

    photo1biy.jpg

    photo2eyj.jpg
     
  27. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    secure boot is definitely not available on HM machines. but EFI should be possible according to mythlogic. altho no one with an HM machine has succeeded yet :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  28. Phillbspeed

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    Thanks Jaybee :)

    I hope someone can post results soon. We may need a modded bios from Mythlogic for users of P170hm & P150hm
     
  29. 0xsergy

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    I have a little issue I haven't seen mentioned here. When I enable Windows 8 mode in the bios under 'OS' my bluetooth control in the bios is greyed out. The bluetooth light indicator also stops working properly, it's now always on when the PC is on. Bluetooth itself still works but this is a fairly annoying bug. I'm using a Killer 1202 wifi/bluetooth card on an NP9170(latest bios).
     
  30. icehot

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    Hey,

    Just done all this, and it's working great, boot speeds are loads faster with secure boot enabled!! Only question is, how do u get back into the bios once this is done??
     
  31. ldkv

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    Just press the F2 button constantly while starting up your machine.
     
  32. hzss

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    To install windows 8, you just need a file named *.iso, And how can I used to it to make a key for it?
    I do not want to use a windows8 without activate.
    I can make it easier to install with PE, so^~you konw~
     
  33. Mirabis

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    Anyone who managed to do this on a Clevo P150HM? If so , could u link me ur bios file?
     
  34. csoren

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    Has anybody tried (and succeeded) with the chipset mode set to RAID? The setup doesn't find any drives and loading the F6 driver doesn't help either. :mask:
     
  35. Zymphad

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    Deagleson re-installed Windows 8 clean and has it running with EFI on a P170HM. Don't know what BIOS, but it's the default Clevo with Style Note emblem.
     
  36. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Interesting, any link about that? Afaik the only HM that detects and boots from EFI file is the P180HM...
     
  37. Zymphad

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    He said, all he did was disable legacy USB support in the BIOS.
     
  38. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    interesting! surely worth a try, especially considering im on a p170hm bios here :p thx for the info :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  39. Scerate

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    same here will try it right now

    edit: didn't work with my EFI Win8 USB Stick - not on USB2 or USB3
     
  40. crosslimit

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    noob question here. Im planning to install win8 on a new SSD and then hotswap it with my old win7 SSD whenever i need it. do i have to worry about secure boot?
     
  41. jaybee83

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    hotswap the ssd with the os files on it while its running? wouldnt recommend that :p

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  42. crosslimit

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    haha no of course shut the machine down first. Since I got win 8 for 20 bucks, I thought I might as well try it out.

    so I won't have any issues then?

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
     
  43. jaybee83

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    not sure about that, I guess ull just need to try and see :) when it comes to a dual boot on the same disk i guess that both OS versions would have to be installed in BIOS or EFI mode, otherwise it wouldnt work. as for different disks..... im sure ull find out once u try :p haha
     
  44. KisSme

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    anyone could say how could i clear/reset secure boot keys on bios ?
    after a little problem with my second HDD, W8 dont want to boot
    i decided to format the first HDD and do a new installation of W8 on UEFI mod
    in first time, the installation failed before loading W8 installation
    after formatting my HDD and converted it on GPT format, the installation begin but stoped on first step (0%)

    Actualy, UEFI is disabled and W8 is installed on a MBR system disk
    What is the problem ?
    Could i solve this issue if i reset secure boot keys ?
    What could i do to solve this ?
     
  45. crosslimit

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    does secure boot make you boot into windows faster? I saw meakers video and he boots insanely fast, dont know if its uefi secure boot though...

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
     
  46. jaybee83

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    uefi or efi is the new bios, so to say.

    within uefi, u have the options of fastboot and secure boot, the first of which enables u to have those insane boot times and the second of which prevents any malware being loaded into the system at boot.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  47. crosslimit

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    so If I already have win8 and the latest bios Im good to go? just enable it in bios?
     
  48. jaybee83

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    ud have to have win8 installed in efi mode. if its already installed in bios mode then ud have to make a clean install to profit from efi/fast boot/secure boot.

    details on how to do that are given in the first post of this thread ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  49. crosslimit

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    aw man, I gues I'll pass on that for now then....
     
  50. rasb30

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    Good morning
    Sorry if you do not understand me well, because I live in Brazil and I can not speak English, so I'm using the google translator.

    I have a notebook EUROCOM Neptune Model 2.0 (CLEVO P170EM) and wonder if it is possible to use RAID with the UEFI-enabled Windows 8.

    I've tried to do this type of installation, I had no more success.
    First, it enabled the RAID in the bios and saved, through the program of intel build the RAID my two SSDs.
    Returned activating the option in the bios windows OS 8 and also the UEFI, then saving again.
    What happens after the windows start the installation is that it does not recognize the drives or SSDs in RAID or my other momentus HDD to install.
    If by chance I disable the option in UEFI bios, installation happens smoothly.

    Can you help?
    Is there way to install windows 8 in UEFI with RAID active?
    thank you
     
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