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    [Question] Does Clevo P750DM2 throttle under load?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by TrollerForever, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. TrollerForever

    TrollerForever Newbie

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    I need a laptop with a desktop grade i7 7700k CPU, and the only options available for me in my country (India), are the 15" Clevo P750DM2 and 17" Clevo P775DM3-G.

    I don't need the 17" as it's too big and the upgrades it offers over the 15" are overkill for my use, not to mention it's almost twice the price.

    I know there are some 'better' laptops with the same processor, but I am not going to be buying a laptop from an international seller, I've had the discussion before on another thread, costs too much extra time and money.

    Also I'm going for the GTX 1060 instead of the GTX 1070 for the better thermal efficiency, almost everything I'll be running is CPU intensive, I would go for a GTX 1050 2GB if I had the option XD.

    If anyone owns the same laptop, or something similar, I'm interested in knowing what temps this system gives. Also what 'adjustments' were made to the system to improve thermals

    I'm not buying the laptop right away, so if anyone has some 'insider information' about better 1151 chips coming out, I don't mind waiting a bit.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Due t the combined cooling system the CPU will be able to borrow from the GPU heatsink and should be fine with the 7700K.
     
  3. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    Since the 1060 doesn't run very hot, a 7700(K) will do fairly well on the unified heatsink under stress. Do go for one of the better thermal compounds, still (IC Diamond, Gelid, or Thermal Grizzly). Temps will depend on your workload; very intensive will probably get you into the high 80s Celsius.
     
  4. TrollerForever

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    Thanks for the responses, my workload will frequent turbo, and occasional overclocking as well.

    The seller claims to use only IC Diamond, I plan to delid, and add Thermal Grizzly on the dye. Is the heatsync on this laptop compatible with metallic pastes? Also, do other components heat up enough to warrant using thermal pads on them?

    <90° is fine by my standards, I'll remember to not use it on my lap.
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The heatsink is copper so liquid metal can be used but the obvious warnings of using a conductive liquid inside a machine that will be bumped/moved around a fair bit still apply.
     
  6. Prostar Computer

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    @TrollerForever - The heatsink will take the liquid metal compounds fine, you just need to be cautious with them as Meaker already mentioned. You shouldn't need thermal pads on anything else; some users replace the pads on the heatsink for better contact.
     
  7. Dennismungai

    Dennismungai Notebook Deity

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    Hey there,

    I own the 2017 version of the Origin Eon 15-X based on the same chassis above.

    Here are my findings:

    1. It will not throttle. However, with the default fan profile, you will run hot and the components will average the high 80s and mid 90s on full loads such as stress tests.
    2. Use the custom fan curve option, and set fan stop to 40 degrees, fan start at 50 and full fan speed at 80 degrees Celsius. Note that this setting means that this notebook will rarely run quiet even on light workloads, but it will stay much, much cooler.
    3. Do not use the included overclocking utility bundled with the Clevo control center. It's components bundle Intel's XTU libraries and these tend to mess up the fan curve tables, which may mess thermals.
    4. Ventilate: The best thing you can do for this notebook is ensure that it's able to breathe. Use it on an elevated pad that allows ample airflow at the bottom panel and you'll be good to go. As usual, avoid lint, such as using it in bed, and on mats.
    5. Do not overclock if you have the 230W power adapter: Overclocking, if done, should be done from the BIOS, and not through XTU or the control center. And either way, with the K-edition processors, the 230W power supply offers a very narrow margin for the power demands that an overclock will invite. For instance, on full load, this notebook will automatically disable Turbo Boost, locking the cores to 4.2 GHz for the Kabylake-based i7 7700k. This is done from the BIOS, by writing to the EC directly. You can confirm this by running tools such as hwinfo under full load.

    Extra notes:

    If you plan to use Linux, you must boot up with the nvidia.modeset=0 option passed to the kernel. Otherwise your machine will lock up.
    As of now, the Intel Premium RST RAID mode is not supported on Linux. So if you're dual booting, take note of this limitation.
    The rest works as advertised.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2017
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  9. MrSlippy

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    Hi,

    I have owned a P751DM2 for about a year or so now and the two best things I did for thermals
    1) Repaste on both CPU and GPU with IC Diamond
    2) Elevated the laptop with a Laptop Cooling Pad

    Also an undervolt on the CPU has helped but I think there is a undervolt set by default on the later revision of the BIOS.
    (Someone correct if me if I am wrong as I am still on a older BIOS version)

    Thanks
    MrSlippy