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    [Sager NP9150] dGPU Issues

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by fleeon, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    Hello there!

    I need some help with my laptop GPU.

    I have a 2012 Sager NP9150 with a GTX 675m.

    A couple of months ago the computer started acting up. I would be in-game and it would suddenly freeze, hang, the status LED's would flash about 20 times while the computer beeped, the fans would hit turbo, and the computer would shut off.

    This has been happening for months. I've taken the following steps to try and fix it:

    • cleared all dust
    • re-applied thermal paste to CPU and GPU
    • Wiped and then re-installed drivers
    • Wiped and clean-installed Windows 10
    • Put graphics way down to low (can usually run on high)
    • Put the computer on high performance mode
    I've also done CPU and GPU stress tests.

    The CPU and GPU both reached 100C and were still fine for more than 15 minutes.

    I appreciate any help and suggestions!
     
  2. Khenglish

    Khenglish Notebook Deity

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    It sounds like the GPU is dying despite it passing your stress test.

    Also on a side note, you should never let a GPU run as hot as 100C.
     
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  3. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    That's what I was starting to believe as well.

    Not to worry, I never have the GPU or CPU run anywhere near 100C, they are usually contained to the 80's under load (100C was just a one-off for the stress test).

    Besides taking it on the chin, can anything be done for the GPU to recover some performance or should the computer just remain locked to the iGPU?
     
  4. slimmolG

    slimmolG Notebook Consultant

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    Damn... sounds like you cleared all the moisture out of the unit at least ;)

    And I agree. I had a GPU do the slow death as well
     
  5. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    Silver lining of sorts I guess.

    Did your machine just turn into a straight up productivity station then at that point?
     
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    slimmolG Notebook Consultant

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    Yup. My other option at the time was to try and revamp an old an old Inspiron... which, years later, is still floating around here somewhere with its original massive allotment of 2 x 2GB of dual channel RAM still intact
    lol
     
  7. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    What I still don't understand is why the GPU was fine during stress testing but shut the computer down while in-game for 5 or 10 minutes.

    I've also heard the PSU get mentioned as a possible source of troubles, is that feasible at all?
     
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  9. Khenglish

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    A bad PSU doesn't cause crashes. I'd only suspect PSU if you had hard instant shutdowns.

    This is the most damning piece of information. This means the motherboard lost communication with the GPU.
     
  10. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Here's another piece of information I wanted to mention: every time the crashes happened, I would check out event viewer and it would show a Kernel Power Error ID - 41.

    Here's the relevant site: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...1-error-the-system-has-rebooted-without-clean

    Now 41 narrowed it down to OC, overheat, RAM, defaults, or PSU. I haven't OC'd, heat is not an issue, RAM checks came up clean, defaults are fine because of clean install, so that only left the PSU for me.

    What are your thoughts about this?
     
  11. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Forget what windows and MS help says. Khenglish has told you exactly what the flashing and beeping means and the likely reason.

    Stress tests usually hit the core hard but don't stress memory as much, so don't always show up memory errors.

    My brothers P150HM with 580M (same GPU as you, yay for rebadging chicanery) had exactly these kind of intermittent shutdowns, I cleaned everything out and repasted so it was no longer thermal throttling, then two weeks later it was artifacting with green squares everywhere, still stable apart from that. Gone with new gpu.
     
  12. fleeon

    fleeon Notebook Guru

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    Thanks for replying!

    That makes sense, good to hear that you got the HM working again.

    At this point though, I don't know if it's worth it to pay ~$200 for a used GPU that is 5 years old already or if I should invest that money into something else.

    Did you get your replacement off of ebay? If so, the only options I see on there are pre-owned and used cards.
     
  13. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Pair of Clevo 670Ms for ~$140aud. Pretty rare they pop up as sanely priced used units.

    Sometimes it's people selling a broken laptop and you can part out and resell the bits you don't need (e.g. I got a complete spare P370EM shell, all working except GPU, with XM CPU in it $400 when the cheapest XMs on ebay were $250, but since I wanted to mod stuff havings spares of everything on hand was what I was after)